10PM Update: Soccer Team still trapped in flooded cave, search suspended due to rising waters, believed still alive

[brutox]

Checking the updates regularly, this is just gut-wrenching .. 

[Daz Manc]

Water to drink is not a problem, they can filter the water rushing through the Cave using their T shirts to get the sand/mud out.
The human body can survive for weeks on water alone.

Realistically their best chance is if the rain stops, as it is now, it doesn't look like anyone can reach them.

Wish them all the luck they need.

[Oukiva]

Last news from chiangmaicitylife.com:

At 10.15am Friday, Prayuth Chan-ocha arrived on scene to show his support and concern about the missing boys.

At 10.30am Friday, the Governor of Chiang Rai, Narongsak Osottanakorn said that the US and UK teams are currently working on a plan with the local rescue workers and authorities and although he cannot comment on which plan will be used, there are four main choices they have right now.

1. Enter the Cave through the main Cave entrance, and increase the pumping of water out of the Cave to reduce the water levels. This morning 40 more water pumps were sent from Bangkok to help.
2. Bore through one of the more promising chimneys. One chimney, or shaft will be scanned today. In addition to this, scans will be made towards the Monk’s Series area (right at the t-junction) and if any evidence of the missing group is found a team will go that way to find them.
3. ‘Bomb the water’ to help reduce the water levels. (it is unclear if this is an industry term or a literal bombing of the water to displace it and create a crater that water can flow into)
4. Scan into the Cave using a Cave Wall Scanner. The theory is that they will be able to see into the Cave and locate the missing group but careful plans must be made as the machinery is 2 tonnes in weight and cannot be easily moved.

At 11am Friday, Commissioner-general of the Royal Thai Police Pol.Gen. Chakthip Chaijinda, Deputy Commissioner of the Royal Thai Police Pol Gen Wirachai Songmetta, the border patrol police and the paratrooper unit of the military have returned to a shaft that may lead to the inside of the Cave. Yesterday the first 22m was explored and it was discovered to be a straight passage that stops at an L shaped corner. It is located directly above the largest chamber on the right side of the Cave (near Monk’s Series) which is 60m in height. According to Cave data, the chamber is 560m above sea level and this shaft entrance has been found at 620m above sea level, leaving a 60m difference. The remaining 30+ metres of the shaft is expected to be explored today.

Map of the left side of the Cave after the junction.

At 11.30am Friday, reports of another vehicle being broken into emerge. The vehicle was an emergency vehicle from Lampang, and the robbers took off with two radios and a few other belongings.

At 12pm Friday, The Provincial Electricity Authority arrived with more waterproof power lines to take into the Cave to power water pumps and lighting. At the same time, another rain cloud is seen over the mountains and more rain is expected to fall soon.

At 2.55pm Friday, emergency crews rushed to the Cave after reports that at least two rescue workers have been electrocuted by an electrical wire inside the Cave . Information is scant as the electrocution just happened but we have had reports that the power has now been temporarily turned off.

At 3pm Friday, officers have evaluated the shaft above the right hand side of the Cave near the Monk’s Series, and have discovered a passage way all the way through to the large 60m chamber that is large enough to be fitted with safety ropes and for people to get through. Officials have filled 20 Tupperware boxes with food, water and a mobile phone along with a message that says to send contact immediately if found. These boxes will be dropped into any shafts or chimneys that are believed to reach the Cave, both to the right and to the left of the t-junction 3km inside the Cave.

At 3.30pm Friday, a rescue team from Beijing, China, (Beijing Peaceland) along with the Acting Consul General of the Consulate-General of the People’s Republic of China arrived at Chiang Mai International Airport, and will now head to Chiang Rai to join the rescue efforts. The team have brought along a diving robot, a 3D scanner and a number of other life-saving equipment. Beijing Peaceland have had experience with Cave rescues in Myanmar, Nepal and many other countries, including helping with the Chilean mining accident of 2010.

At 4.30pm Friday, Chiang Mai Governor Naronsak Osottanakorn denied reports that a number of rescue workers were electrocuted in the Cave, but has claimed that only one rescue volunteer simply fainted inside the Cave and was taken to hospital as a precaution. He said that the man was from Ubon Ratchathani and is in a safe condition.

 

Interesting on BangkokPost : Why cave search is so tricky

[rich007]

Hope they are found alive.

ive been watching and reading this on line. Hoping for good news.

[tweedle-dee]

3 hours ago, Gavinz said:

Hope they are found alive.

ive been watching and reading this on line. Hoping for good news.

Maybe a glimmer of hope here..soldiers have entered into the Cave and can advance into several routes with rescue equipment / med's etc..some time i wished i trained up to be something more useful than the sole pursuit of pussy.

[KINGFISHER]

18 hours ago, william77 said:

I appreciate these updates. Pls keep’em coming my man!! 

God bless 

Many people in the UK are praying that these poor souls will be found very soon. GOD bless them all!!!

[william77]

12 minutes ago, KINGFISHER said:

Many people in the UK are praying that these poor souls will be found very soon. GOD bless them all!!!

I’m starting to become a tad worried as we (thai time ) are closing in on a full week trapped. I’m checking updates every 30 min here. 

[Oukiva]

Hi. For those who follow the news there, you probably understood how I got them. During the day (Thailand working hours) from here : chiangmaicitylife.com, then evening/night from this UK site standard.co.uk, thanks to the different time zone.

Last news from standard.co.uk :

~10PM: Fresh hope for the trapped football team and their coach

 

Rescuers have found a new opening into the Cave. 

 

Late on Friday a rescue team entered a 130 feet long chimney near the centre of the Cave that led to a muddy chamber underneath.

 

Governor of Chiang Rai province Narongsak Osottanakorn told AFP: “"We cannot say exactly what we found but if we're lucky, we might have good news.”

 

However he also said the chamber could lead to a dead end.  

 

 

Also an article this evening on this maybe-new entry on BangkokPost :

New chimney in cave gives rescuers hope.

and some photos of this Tham Luang mission :

 

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[Vessey]

Thanks for these updates Oukiva they are appreciated  

[ginseng]

Easy to be an armchair critic, but I wonder why they didn't more quickly reach out to other countries who have more heavy equipment and search and rescue tools. This wasn't a time for national pride, it was a time to save lives.

[ocka]

50 minutes ago, ginseng said:

why they didn't more quickly reach out to other countries who have more heavy equipment and search and rescue tools

Any bureaucrat in authority has a primary instinct to cover their arse and not make waves.   Any such person who does not have this instinct has already been sacked.

Only after all CYA requirements have been satisfied is it possible (sometimes) to go on to take sensible action. 

Not specially thinking of Thailand. It's true anywhere.

[Oukiva]

Hi. Nearly noon this Saturday but I didn't yet find anything new... 

Only articles about high monks organizing prayers for the boys... but I doubt it helps a lot.

Nearly 1 week that they are in this Cave... 

Edit:

SATURDAY 30th June 2018

At 4am Saturday, 4 pipes were put through the newly drilled hole in the side of the Cave and are pumping water out at a good speed. At this time there is no rain at the location, which is a positive sign that water levels will begin to decrease.

At 7am Saturday, the 13 ambulances and accompanying medical teams conduced a practice run for saving the missing 13 from the Cave. Each person trapped in the Cave will be given one ambulance and one dedicated team once rescued.

At 12pm Saturday, Thai Navy SEALS and the Army successfully installed more water pumps in the 3rd large chamber, significantly reducing water levels inside the Cave. They are now planning on setting up rope systems that rescue workers can use to guide themselves through the Cave towards the T-junction and deeper into the Cave.

 

[udontony]

1 hour ago, ginseng said:

Easy to be an armchair critic, but I wonder why they didn't more quickly reach out to other countries who have more heavy equipment and search and rescue tools. This wasn't a time for national pride, it was a time to save lives.

Did they actually reach out to other countries or did other countries just volunteer and come of their own accord to try and help.

[william77]

God bless these young souls!! They need to find them now. 

[Oukiva]

No real news,

but a good update and summary of the situation on BangkokPost :

Search teams practise evacuation

[william77]

On 28.6.2018 at 07:30, Harry Brown said:

Unless I'm missing something , they report the cave is in Chiang Mai but then in one of the earlier reports  it mentions the cave opening  at Pattaya Beach? If that's the case it must be bloody a long cave?

 

At 12am Wednesday, authorities said that the hole discovered on the mountain above the cave (above the Pattaya Beach section of the cave) was only 5 metres deep before it became too small and mostly blocked, meaning that it could not be used as a rescue or communication route.

It’s just the name for a sandbank section of the Cave system. It would however have been fortunate if the kids emerged at Soi 6 and was greeted by AJ with pops and food. 

They are in my prayers! 

[twilight1234]

What an awful situation. I hope everyone is able to make it out safely. At least they mention that tourists have been rescued before safetly. 

[Oukiva]

Sunday 1st of July already... 7.5 days in the Cave...

Still not the good news everyone is waiting for, but rescuers are progressing on all fronts an good hope that they will reach "Pattaya Bach" soon. The many pumps - including new huge ones arrived Friday - manage now to (slowly) reduce the level of water in the Cave and the many flooded underground passages. Thai Military made big work to divert rain water and block it to flood the Cave again. Burma closed a dam to reduce the level of the nearby river. Etc.

A team is not far to get an access on the East side from a natural chimney. They managed to go down 50m already and are now drilling to try to get access to the ceiling of the Cave below:

 

At 6pm Saturday, a large group of divers, including international teams and volunteers, began entering the Cave to support the Thai Navy SEALS as they move closer to Pattaya Beach – the area where the group is though to be.

Thairat TV share a clear map of the Cave and where teams have got to so far. Between chamber 2 and 3 is where the Thai Navy SEALS have reached so far, and Pattaya Beach is after chamber 3. Drill teams are also drilling from the top above where they think the group is, and another drill team is accessing Monk’s Series (to the right at the T-junction) just in case they are there too.

At around 7pm Saturday, Chiang Rai Governor tells the press that “Today the situation is much better and we have high hopes, and we will be here all night.”

At 8.20pm Saturday, Kruba Mettatham from Wat Pa Naruemit Tham Mungkorn Tong, Nakorn Ratchasima, joined the growing number of spiritual leaders to perform a rain stopping ceremony.

At 9.40pm Saturday, the authorities announced they need at least another 200 oxygen tanks for divers to keep up the search without delay.

At 11pm Saturday, it was reported that the Thai Navy SEALS managed to set up rope guides over just 200m as the water level increased once again, hampering their efforts.

 

To look for news :

• http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/news/live-updates-teenager-football-team-trapped-thai-cave/ (updates at bottom of article)
• https://www.bangkokpost.com/, last article: https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1495194/seal-divers-push-deeper-into-cave#cxrecs_s
• https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/thailand-cave-rescue-news-live-updates-form-tham-luang-as-us-and-british-join-search-for-12-missing-a3874151.html
• Google News

[forcebwithu]

Thread already going on this

 

[Harry Brown]

1 hour ago, forcebwithu said:

Thread already going on this

 

 

 

Can you give me link?

[Oukiva]

Last news from chiangmaicitylife.com today:

SUNDAY 1st July 2018

At 1.15am Sunday, a drilling team managed to drill down 50m into the ground to find water, and have added 2 pipes into the water they found that pumps out 100 cubic metres per hour.

At 3am Sunday, Thai Navy SEALS increase their efforts to take gas tanks into the Cave and set up a new ‘command point’ from within the Cave now the floodwaters have reduced somewhat.

At 3.30am Sunday, Mai Sai’s Provincial Electrical Authority set up a repeater at the mouth of the Cave that will assist in bringing signal into the Cave and relay messages coming out of the Cave through the makeshift signal system installed for the rescue teams.

At 10am Sunday, a report from Khasod English claims that the Department of Groundwater Resources said that after drilling for two days, they found and underwater water source near the Cave. They plan to pump water directly out of the water source to prevent it from entering the Cave.

At 10.30am Sunday, reports confirm a team of Australians are on their way to help with the rescue. The Australian Federal Police are sending six AFP Specialist Response team members to Chiang Rai via a Royal Australian Air Force C-17 transport plane. In an Australian news report published today, coordinator of the US National Cave Rescue Commission claimed that young athletic boys could easily live for a month or a month and a half in the Cave, but concerns surround their access to water that maybe ‘clean’ but also contaminated by chemical runoff from nearby farms. One of the biggest challenges could be mental resolve, because they don’t know when they might get recused.

At 10.37am Sunday, Chiang Rai governor speaks on a microphone and tells those listening that they must not forget to make plans for after care once the missing 13 are found. Where will they be treated, for how long and who will manage that are all points he raised. He said that King Rama X has provided rechargeable LED lights to all Cave rescue teams. He also added that the new plan is to place oxygen tanks every 25m from the t-junction to the 3rd large chamber in preparation for when the group is found and brought out. He clarified that the area they believe the group to be in, known as Pattaya Beach, is 3km deeper into the Cave from the 3rd chamber.

At 12pm Sunday, Workpoint News published a statement from Police Lt. Gen. Sommai Kongwisaisuk, the police commissioner for narcotics control, urging the press and the public not to believe rumours that the boys have caught up with drug traffickers inside the Cave and that they may have been captured or hurt by supposed drug gangs. He admits that there is routes in the areas near the Cave that have been found to be used in drug trafficking, but insists that this case is unrelated to drug smugglers and the boys are simply trapped inside the Cave due to flood water blocking their way out.

Edit: An easier to read map of the Cave and activities :

[Harry Brown]

The latest update looks bit more positive and promising.

[forcebwithu]

13 minutes ago, Harry Brown said:

Can you give me link?

 

12 minutes ago, Oukiva said:

Which one?? Where??? 

My post must have got caught up in a thread merge. I was responding in another thread just started on the same subject.

[Oukiva]

15 minutes ago, Harry Brown said:

The latest update looks bit more positive and promising.

Yes

and on this pic from nationmultimedia.com we understand better that rescuers reached chamber #3, the last one before "Pattaya Beach"  (click it for a slightly bigger one)

 

 

Reading articles, the number of pumps installed seems crazy, and so is the quantity of pipes/hoses, ropes and electric cables. Divers have the most shown job, but they couldn't do it without these hundreds of people who try to clear the caves and control the water. Thanks to them too... and to all those who (try to) help on a way or another. 

Not far now... 

[Oukiva]

Last BangkokPost article : Today Sunday 14:02 :

Seal chief vows no turning back on rescue mission 

 

Last news on Standard.co.uk: Today Sunday ~19h:

Rescue divers clear key hurdle

 

Rescue divers have cleared a key hurdle in the increasingly desperate search, officials said.

On Sunday a team led by Thai navy Seal divers pushed through the murk of a half-mile-long chamber to a passageway that could lead to where the missing possibly took shelter.

 

But Seals' commander Rear Admiral Arpakorn Yookongkaew said even though progress has been made in their effort to find the missing, they are not yet where they want to be.

 

"It's still tough as the water stream is quite strong," he said.

 

and a second article on this same website:

Thailand cave rescue: desperate search for trapped football team continues