Abbreviations, Local Lingo and Bar Types

[Billy Shears]

1 hour ago, BIGFREE1 said:

How did "GoGo" bar morph into "aGoGo" or "Agogo"?

Where did the "a" come from? Is it as simple as someone saying "It's a GoGo bar" and then the locals sort of just run the 2 words together to form "aGoGo"?

I've seen this many times, but never quite understood the epidemiology.

SEA (south east Asia) has people coming from all over world. English is spoken many different ways, your GoGo is someone else's AGoGo, on this forum you can just put GG.

Case in point. If you ever get to Pattaya you will see signs "Bar Beer" but to you and me it's only Beer Bar. Just have to take it all with a sense of humor.

[kansuwan]

Two points:

a:

epidemiology is the study (scientific, systematic, and data-driven) of the distribution (frequency, pattern) and determinants (causes, risk factors) of health-related states and events (not just diseases) in specified populations (neighborhood, school, city, state, country, global).

etymology is the study of the origin of words and the ways in which their meanings have changed over time

b:

 

[Evil Penevil]

17 hours ago, BIGFREE1 said:

How did "GoGo" bar morph into "aGoGo" or "Agogo"?

Where did the "a" come from? Is it as simple as someone saying "It's a GoGo bar" and then the locals sort of just run the 2 words together to form "aGoGo"?

I've seen this many times, but never quite understood the epidemiology.

"à gogo" is an informal French translation of the English word "galore," meaning "plentiful" or "in abundance." A British novel titled whisky Galore  by Compton Mackenzie was published in 1947 and a popular film adaptation appeared in 1949.

      

 In France, the book and film were called whisky à Gogo and Le whisky à Gogo became the name of the first commercially successful discotheque to open in Paris.  In the U.S., several discos opened in the late 1950s and early 1960s that used the whisky a GoGo name. The most famous was located on Sunset Strip in Hollywood.

It was there  female dancers performed in suspended cages.

  

The concept was copied by clubs large and small across the country and became known as "a go gos," especially in the African American community. Many of them had girls perform on narrow stages or the bar.  According to the late Bernard Trink, Bangkok nightclubs began featuring special performances by "go go dancers" in the mid-1960s.  They wore "go go boots;" hot pants or mini skirts; and halter tops. They worked for outside "agencies" and couldn't be bar fined. 

American Rick Menard was the first to introduce go go dancers as a regular feature in the old Grand Prix in late 1969 or early 1970. The Grand Prix had opened in February, 1969. At first, he hired in a few girls to dance on the bar or small platforms.   It proved to be a hugely popular move and Menard installed a stage to accommodate more dancers

At some point, a bar owner, whether Menard or another, got the idea to dress the bar's hostesses in bikinis and have them stand and shuffle (rather than dance) onstage. Other bars quickly followed suit. The go go bar as we recognize it today was thus born. Depending on the whim of authorities at the time, the girls would dance topless or even nude in some bars.

[BIGFREE1]

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

"à gogo" is an informal French translation of the English word "galore," meaning "plentiful" or "in abundance." A British novel titled whisky Galore  by Compton Mackenzie was published in 1947 and a popular film adaptation appeared in 1949.

      

 In France, the book and film were called whisky à Gogo and Le whisky à Gogo became the name of the first commercially successful discotheque to open in Paris.  In the U.S., several discos opened in the late 1950s and early 1960s that used the whisky a GoGo name. The most famous was located on Sunset Strip in Hollywood.

It was there  female dancers performed in suspended cages.

  

The concept was copied by clubs large and small across the country and became known as "a go gos," especially in the African American community. Many of them had girls perform on narrow stages or the bar.  According to the late Bernard Trink, Bangkok nightclubs began featuring special performances by "go go dancers" in the mid-1960s.  They wore "go go boots;" hot pants or mini skirts; and halter tops. They worked for outside "agencies" and couldn't be bar fined. 

American Rick Menard was the first to introduce go go dancers as a regular feature in the old Grand Prix in late 1969 or early 1970. The Grand Prix had opened in February, 1969. At first, he hired in a few girls to dance on the bar or small platforms.   It proved to be a hugely popular move and Menard installed a stage to accommodate more dancers

At some point, a bar owner, whether Menard or another, got the idea to dress the bar's hostesses in bikinis and have them stand and shuffle (rather than dance) onstage. Other bars quickly followed suit. The go go bar as we recognize it today was thus born. Depending on the whim of authorities at the time, the girls would dance topless or even nude in some bars.

Awesome! Thank you so much for putting that together. 

I just know if I hadn't learned this, I would think about where it came from every time I saw an a-GoGo establishment.

[bergeboonp60]

Seen the abbreviation BUFF used quite often recently - Big Ugly Fat Fucker

[Thomaz73]

On 06/12/2006 at 20:45, Scumbag said:

BM - Board Member

I still of that one as "Bar Monger". It's was my best guess early on

[BIGFREE1]

How about DO or D/O = Drinks Only

Bar girls who are not barfine-able and only work for drinks - Otherwise known as a 'Coyote'

[talung66]

On 12/11/2019 at 11:05, BigBoss73 said:

I have seen the abbreviation  and heard it in conversation : SOO 

Does anyone know what SOO means in terms of Pattaya?

 

If you can add the paragraph SOO is posted all i can think of is a typo for SOI 

Or many Australians post SOO in regards to State of origin 

[talung66]

Is BC now a used/well known abbreviation 

Before covid 

 

[LASportsNut]

15 hours ago, talung66 said:

Is BC now a used/well known abbreviation 

Before covid 

 

I always referred it as Bald Cunt.

[simon6666]

Late night around campfires in Pattaya a story is told.

The brightest light doth burn the fastest, but a month among us he was.

A man requiring but 26 posts to make Advanced Member, they say!

Of whom do they speak?

The legend of 'dickhead', of course.

Off-topic, but this is where I discovered this hero and didn't want to start a new thread 55

Edited August 15, 2022 by simon6666

[PostMan]

On 22/03/2021 at 20:37, Evil Penevil said:

"à gogo" is an informal French translation of the English word "galore," meaning "plentiful" or "in abundance." 

Very informative post but I can't let the Sassenach take credit for a good Irish word. Galore is borrowed from the Irish 'go leor' (enough)

Good work on the post 🤠

[PostMan]

My contribution is a bit unflattering, and in my case only partly applies 

GWM Grey white man 

Used by a LB on Soi Baukow when referring to me in a rather brief chat.

 

 

[Emristo]

Thanks guys, very helpful Thread

[pttslvr101]

Helpful indeed, I was surprised that as someone who has visited Patts dozens of times I learned something in terms of abbreviations.

[thairak]

what about MILF, I know what it means of course, but what does milf stand for?

I've never been able to work it out

[Garzan]

30 minutes ago, thairak said:

what about MILF, I know what it means of course, but what does milf stand for?

I've never been able to work it out

Mom I'd Like to Fuck. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MILF

Edited January 7, 2023 by Garzan

[thairak]

5 minutes ago, Garzan said:

Mom I'd Like to Fuck. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MILF

many thanks G  its bothered me for years 55 especially, as I prefer them nowadays

 

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by thairak
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[hoback]

On 13/09/2021 at 13:48, Thomaz73 said:

I still of that one as "Bar Monger". It's was my best guess early on

when i was a kid BM was bowel movement.  when i got here i understood BM contextually but still didn't know exactly what the initials stood for so i googled "BM mongering forum" and only got some slang definitions one of which was Bad Man! thanks for sharing Scumbag's post.

[jonpatt1218]

Great list of Abbreviations, Local Lingo and Bar Types.

Question under bar types, I keep seeing GOGO's and Gentleman's Club (GC).

I see GOGO's on the list. Is their a difference between GOGO's and GC's, or are they basically the same type of clubs?

[funtimedenver]

Had to look these two up elsewhere and should be added to the list:

DFK = Deep French Kissing
PSE = Porn Star Experience

IMHO, abbreviations like FUBAR should be taken off. It doesn't get used much in current times and pretty much everyone knows what that is by default.

[CryptoGuy]

This thread is one of the greatest things I've ever read. Had me laughing the whole way. I read this is 2023 and the terms are still relevant. Cheers

 

 

 

 

[phlampson]

On 22/03/2021 at 13:37, Evil Penevil said:

"à gogo" is an informal French translation of the English word "galore," meaning "plentiful" or "in abundance." A British novel titled whisky Galore  by Compton Mackenzie was published in 1947 and a popular film adaptation appeared in 1949.

      

 In France, the book and film were called whisky à Gogo and Le whisky à Gogo became the name of the first commercially successful discotheque to open in Paris.  In the U.S., several discos opened in the late 1950s and early 1960s that used the whisky a GoGo name. The most famous was located on Sunset Strip in Hollywood.

It was there  female dancers performed in suspended cages.

  

The concept was copied by clubs large and small across the country and became known as "a go gos," especially in the African American community. Many of them had girls perform on narrow stages or the bar.  According to the late Bernard Trink, Bangkok nightclubs began featuring special performances by "go go dancers" in the mid-1960s.  They wore "go go boots;" hot pants or mini skirts; and halter tops. They worked for outside "agencies" and couldn't be bar fined. 

American Rick Menard was the first to introduce go go dancers as a regular feature in the old Grand Prix in late 1969 or early 1970. The Grand Prix had opened in February, 1969. At first, he hired in a few girls to dance on the bar or small platforms.   It proved to be a hugely popular move and Menard installed a stage to accommodate more dancers

At some point, a bar owner, whether Menard or another, got the idea to dress the bar's hostesses in bikinis and have them stand and shuffle (rather than dance) onstage. Other bars quickly followed suit. The go go bar as we recognize it today was thus born. Depending on the whim of authorities at the time, the girls would dance topless or even nude in some bars.

I'm being pedantic, to be sure, but I believe the word "a" with the accent mark as shown in the "whiskey a Go Go" sign roughly translates from the French as "of" or "from". It's the same usage as in "a la carte", meaning "from the menu". "A la" can also mean "in the style of", so I think it is grammatically correct to simply call these GoGo bars, as the "a" is somewhat redundant. They probably are only necessary in a formal name such as "whiskey a Go Go".

Anyway, I'll leave now...