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I have a sort of friend who's a former BF of my Ex and that's really how I know him.

 

This guy was diagnosed with prostate cancer at 63 and given 2-3 years to live.

He sold his house in UK and came here to have some fun while he could - good idea huh?

 

For the next few years he had a lot of fun - bought the odd m/bike and tractor and a pair of fake tits and some gold for a girl or two - usual stuff.

He was getting through his capital quite well, though his daughter wasn't much impressed at him spending her inheritance and disowned him.

 

Then came the "bad" news. He got the all clear from one of his check-ups after 4 years.This is not me making light of cancer btw, that's how he sees it, or so he says and would like to sue the specialist who diagnosed.

 

He's been getting the all clears for about 4 years now and, needless to say, his pot of money has gone and he lives on a small private pension plus UK state pension, so money is tight.

He gets a Retirement Extension each year by the dodgy method - 800k in and out by an agent and 20k across the table. The Ex often has to lend him the 20k and he pays her back later.

No, he hasn't got any health insurance. It would be prohibitively expensive (if he could get it) and there would be so many exclusions it wouldn't be worth it anyway.

 

The Ex helps him out whenever he's in trouble and yesterday she called me as she was on her way to Ubon.

He's a blubbering wreck with any health scare and the Ex always has to take him for his check-ups or anything else, but this time she couldn't help.

He lives in in an apartment block in Soi X-Zyte(?) among the BGs and CCs.

He had been bitten on the hand by a mosquito and it turned bad. Then he got the shivers and the flushes and lay in his bed for 3 days without eating. He has no regular live in because he can't afford it, but some of the BGs help him out.

Yesterday he got himself to the International Hospital Soi 4, where they diagnosed Dengue Fever.

 

He's 70ish now and not particularly healthy but usually looks OK for his age.

When I got there he was in a shit state and laid out in Emergency.

The staff were clearly not impressed with him - he can be an awkward cnut at the best of times.

 

Basically they were refusing to admit him to a room until he paid 10k up front. Also he needed another 10k for the estimated cost of treatment. I don't know what happens next.

 

He's still OK today, but I've no idea how safe my 20k is. The Ex says she'll pay me if the worst happens but........ :ShitHappens1:

 

As I've said, time to go home but no home to go to.

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poor bugger. Id hate to be in that situation.

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That is very depressing...but i guess it is at least slightly better than being dead as he expected.

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well i think he is lucky his cancer cleared up and you did a good deed for the 20K.

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I heard from him yesterday morning 10am and he was looking for someone to fetch his phone charger and shaver. I'm about 20km away so I said I'd go later.

 

Around noon I spoke to the Ex and asked her what happens if he's still in there in 3-4 days, as I wasn't planning to bankroll a long term stay at International. She said neither was she as she already has to pay for Mama's treatment.

 

At 4pm he called again to say not to worry about fetching his stuff as he'd discharged himself.

 

They'd taken 16k from him for the one night plus all the pills, potions and diagnosis.

 

I have to assume the Ex had spoken to him about money, he'd checked his bin and couldn't see a way forward so he paid it and went back to his apartment.

 

Today his phone is off - sleeping hopefully.

I suppose I ought to go and check if it's still off later.

 

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He could always return home,if he was from the uk,they would (eventually)house him and give him a giro every week....and his medical bills would of course be free....

 

well done to you anyway edge for sticking some money his way....you will be paid back ,at least in good karma, in time

 

I think many of us would have done the same thing given a prognosois of prostrate cancer...and it shows what his daughter was more concerned about...her inheritance.

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He sounds like a mess... why go to the international hospital when you are poor, they charge a fortune in there, its only worth using for specialist stuff! Probably would of cost him a few thousand maximum at a government hospital.

 

I thought most 70 year olds would be wise, after having many years of lessons in life

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Patt. is full of such life stories.

 

Most often there is a drink problem being the highway to the gutter.......

 

Luckily there are always new members of the alco. church around.

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Poor bugger, truly caught between a rock and a hard place, and twice!

 

Gets told he has a limited time left and goes off to party his remaining days away (who wouldn't?), and when the party's nearly over and he's blown a life's worth of assets he gets told it was all a big mistake. Top that with a daughter with the feelings and emotional ties of a brick. What a lousy situation to be caught up in.

 

I guess LaaMok is right in one respect, it would have been wiser to enjoy several holidays and see how things progressed than to throw all caution to the winds, however being told you're going to die tends to remove a lot of logical constraint from your way of thinking.

 

Good on Ya Edge for lending a helping hand in times of trouble, hope the old devil recovers from his bout of Dengue and has least some quality of life left.

 

Perthie

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He could always return home,if he was from the uk,they would (eventually)house him and give him a giro every week....and his medical bills would of course be free....

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I had that conversation with the Ex yesterday and she agreed and said if they'd take care of him he should go and I should tell him to go.

She'd be glad to be rid of the burden as there's nothing but hassle in it for her.

I don't think the obstinate sod would take kindly to it though and I'm not that sure he could raise the fare.

Anyone want to chip in?

 

Joking apart, it wouldn't be a pleasant prospect arriving back and throwing himself on the mercy of the welfare state at 70 yo and skint.

 

He sounds like a mess... why go to the international hospital when you are poor, they charge a fortune in there, its only worth using for specialist stuff! Probably would of cost him a few thousand maximum at a government hospital.

 

I thought most 70 year olds would be wise, after having many years of lessons in life

 

He has to go for checkups and other stuff quite regularly - I think his scans at International were about 8-9k a time.

The Ex got him registered at the Princess'(?) Red Cross Hospital at Si Racha and it was about 2k.

Apart from the distance, he doesn't speak Thai and the staff there don't speak English, so the Ex always has to take him.

As I said earlier, he's hopeless in those situations and I presume that when the Ex told him she was on the way to Ubon and couldn't help him he panicked and went back to the place he knew.

Again, I had the conversation with the Ex yesterday about wtf he was doing going to the International when he's got little or no money.

I doubt he knows where Banglamung Hospital is and he wouldn't go there without a Thai. The Ex tried to raise 2 girls who have been staying with him, but neither showed up.

 

He's a bit obsessed with keeping a diary, so he knows the name and has a pic of every girl he's ever taken back to his apartment.

He once told me he had totted up that he had over 120 friends and acquaintances in Pattaya - not much sign of any of them now.

 

PS - He was at the Hospital again when I tried to reach him. Out again now and due back Tuesday.

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It's a problem many of us will have to face as we get older. Even if you have some money at 70+ no one really wants to know. I am sure there are thousands of older men living here (and in the UK) who will face difficulties as they are unable to take care of themselves.

 

Even if you go back to the UK there are many people who live alone with no one to help them. OK they might have the NHS and social services but they can not provide 24 hour care and if you are sick there is no cure for being old.

 

You would think relatives might help but this guy's daughter sounds no use, only interested in her inheritance. At least here you can pay someone a small (ish) sum to help with cleaning/shopping etc.

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It's a problem many of us will have to face as we get older. Even if you have some money at 70+ no one really wants to know. I am sure there are thousands of older men living here (and in the UK) who will face difficulties as they are unable to take care of themselves.

 

Even if you go back to the UK there are many people who live alone with no one to help them. OK they might have the NHS and social services but they can not provide 24 hour care and if you are sick there is no cure for being old.

 

You would think relatives might help but this guy's daughter sounds no use, only interested in her inheritance. At least here you can pay someone a small (ish) sum to help with cleaning/shopping etc.

 

That's the point really, as long as he can get away with it, his quality of life here is much better than it would be back in blighty.

 

I expect this crisis will pass and he'll be back to eating on the cheap and roaming round the bars.

 

The crunch comes if nobody will answer his calls next time because they know that he needs money. :Circle_Sharks:

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The positive out of this story is that the happiness he experienced whilst expecting to die was enough to cure his cancer. If he was still in the UK he'd probably be beneath the ground by now. The power of the mind is a mysterious thing. Perhaps remind him of this and he may just cure himself again.

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That is very depressing...but i guess it is at least slightly better than being dead as he expected.

Quite, several years of fun in Patters, rather than dead in a horrible way, is nothing much to complain about !

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Can you imagine having to go back to UK skint after living in Pattaya for a few years, got to be a nightmare.

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Can you imagine having to go back to UK skint after living in Pattaya for a few years, got to be a nightmare.

 

Enough of a nightmare to keep a lot of guys hanging on in here as long as they can, sometimes for too long no doubt.

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Quick update:-

 

I went away to Cambodia for a couple of weeks and left my Thai phone turned off.

When I got back, the Ex had been trying to contact me. She's still up in Ubon and his condition had worsened.

This time she'd persuaded him to go to Si Racha Red Cross somehow, instead of the expensive International.

He was in there for 3 days (don't know how much or who paid) and had been out for a few days when I got back.

I sent him a message but he said he was too weak to talk, worsening and worried. I asked if he needed anything but he didn't answer that day.

Both the Ex and I have told him he should go back to UK, but he doesn't want to and I don't know where the fare would come from.

 

I sent another SMS yesterday, but his phone was off all day. I presume he's back at Si Racha.

The message had gone through this morning, but no response as yet.

Posted

That is very depressing...but i guess it is at least slightly better than being dead as he expected.

he should thank you for the 20k....don't count on the money coming back to you anytime soon....you're his only friend and he is broke.

cheers, Tommy of Richmond

why sleep if you are going to get up anyway?

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he should thank you for the 20k....don't count on the money coming back to you anytime soon....you're his only friend and he is broke.

 

The trouble is, I don't really consider him a friend and I don't feel obliged to fund him any more than I have, so if, as it appears, I am all he's got, then he's in a lot of trouble.

 

Actually, it's the Ex who is his only friend and she put me in a situation whereby I couldn't really refuse - he was laid out in Emergency.

If she had been here she would have put him in Si Racha and he wouldn't have needed 20k. Unfortunately she was and still is 800 kms away with her sick mother and has no plans to return soon.

 

Today he is still incommunicado. It's 3 days now, since he went to see the doctor. I've sent SMS but his phone is mostly off. The SMS went through eventually, but he hasn't answered.

I'll have to go round to his apartment block today and see if anyone knows whats happening.

The problem with that is that today is the day he promised the first repayment instalment, so he'll think I'm just chasing money.

I do want the money back. I'm not holding my breath, but I don't know when I might be stuck for my last 20k.

Even if he gets through this OK, he will be in a very sorry state and it has made it patently clear how vulnerable he is here in Thailand.

He should go back to UK, but I doubt he's even fit enough to make the journey now.

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Today he is still incommunicado. It's 3 days now, since he went to see the doctor. I've sent SMS but his phone is mostly off. The SMS went through eventually, but he hasn't answered.

I'll have to go round to his apartment block today and see if anyone knows whats happening.

The problem with that is that today is the day he promised the first repayment instalment, so he'll think I'm just chasing money.

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He should go back to UK, but I doubt he's even fit enough to make the journey now.

 

 

 

I went round to his apartment and it was all locked up, so I found the owner/manager.

 

It turns out that when he said he was going to see a doctor next day, he meant in the UK.

 

He's checked out of his apartment and traded his TV etc to the lady there for taking him to the airport and he's gone.

 

In his last SMS to me he ended by telling me not to worry about the 20k. :Circle_Sharks:

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He'd left a UK # at the apartments, which I imagined was the Ex-wife who he said he still got on with as well as her new husband.

 

First I got the my Thai Ex to call it, but she got short shrift.

 

I called it next day and persevered and got a bit further. She is an ex wife, but hasn't spoken to him for years, knows nothing and wants to know less.

She is in contact with his son and daughter, who had heard that he was ill but knew nothing of his return to UK.

She declined to give me their #s as she said they have disowned him for going off to do his own thing in Thailand and won't want to have anything to do with him.

I asked her to think about it and to ask son or daughter if I can speak to them. She said I can call back Monday when her husband isn't around because he would be angry if he knew.

Either he told a pack of lies about his Ex or there are two of them and this is the wrong one, but then why would he leave her number, unless it was just a way to inform his children if he died?

 

At this stage, we have no way of knowing if he even made it back to UK.

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You are a better person than 95% of the population in this world. Ginving away about 500€ for a person you dont event consider a real friend. I hope you are not hurt by the 500€ you lost and you find a little satisfaction in the warm feeling you get from doing something good without getting anything in return. ( Lets just say you earned some Karma/ You arent going to hell/ whatever it is you believe in). One thing you earned is recognition from a total stranger that there are good people in this world still.

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Edge, you should be congratulated for taking an interest in the guy and being concerned about him. I don't mean to be harsh but it sounds like he wants his cake and eat it as well. Prostate cancer is not a 100% killer and to go and blow everything when obviously he would have been feeling well, plus totally ingoring his daughter in not taking any pride to try and pass something on to her, and now from what you say all he has is attitude and expects others to help him along.

 

I dare say he has made his own bed and now he has to ly in it. It is up to him if he wants to do something about it e.g. return to U.K. despite it not being the promised land of girls and pussy.

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Edge, you should be congratulated for taking an interest in the guy and being concerned about him. I don't mean to be harsh but it sounds like he wants his cake and eat it as well. Prostate cancer is not a 100% killer and to go and blow everything when obviously he would have been feeling well, plus totally ingoring his daughter in not taking any pride to try and pass something on to her, and now from what you say all he has is attitude and expects others to help him along.

 

I dare say he has made his own bed and now he has to ly in it. It is up to him if he wants to do something about it e.g. return to U.K. despite it not being the promised land of girls and pussy.

 

I think you read it right I'm afraid.

 

I never actually liked the guy but there were mutual friends etc.

I'm not a particularly generous person with money other than to my daughters and I rarely, if ever, lend it.

 

I assume he's back in the UK in the care of the NHS somewhere and I'm wondering why I've ended up 400 quid down.

I didn't seem to have much choice at the time as I knew no-one else would get him out of Emergency and into a room.

I'm not skint and I'm a good few years behind him, but I am on limited income. Maybe someone just sent me a reminder not to end up the same way down the road a bit.

 

Perhaps he'll surprise me by paying it back one day.

Or perhaps I'll surprise him. :GoldenSmile1:

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I think you read it right I'm afraid.

 

I never actually liked the guy but there were mutual friends etc.

I'm not a particularly generous person with money other than to my daughters and I rarely, if ever, lend it.

 

I assume he's back in the UK in the care of the NHS somewhere and I'm wondering why I've ended up 400 quid down.

I didn't seem to have much choice at the time as I knew no-one else would get him out of Emergency and into a room.

I'm not skint and I'm a good few years behind him, but I am on limited income. Maybe someone just sent me a reminder not to end up the same way down the road a bit.

 

Perhaps he'll surprise me by paying it back one day.

Or perhaps I'll surprise him. GoldenSmile1.gif

 

 

Look on the bright side Amigo - the old devil is back in the hands of the Brit authorities so he'll no longer be a concern to you. At worst, he's getting the treatment he needs and has a bed in an old-folks home somewhere, not very exciting but at least safe.

 

Yep, you've probably lost the 400, but also lost the burden of being this fellow's guardian angel, which is probably worth losing 400 for in the first place. Who knows, maybe once he's sorted things out back in the UK you'll start to see some money flowing back in your direction. As he left town without letting anyone know, I seriously doubt it thoughrolleyes.gif.

 

Again, well done for being human enough to help someone out in a time of need. I'm sure Buddha is smiling upon you.

 

Cheers

 

Perthie

 

 

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 6pm onwards at Sexy In The City (Soi 6) under the hosting expertise of the magnificent Xylanic.

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