Chicken Parm

[shawnmj]

Wow it’s been four months and no one has mentioned Hemmingways. I honestly don’t remember my grade for this (this was taken in June last year) but it was their daily special and it was a good amount of food. If I finished, I was definitely hurting by the end. 

[elperro]

51 minutes ago, shawnmj said:

Wow it’s been four months and no one has mentioned Hemmingways. I honestly don’t remember my grade for this (this was taken in June last year) but it was their daily special and it was a good amount of food. If I finished, I was definitely hurting by the end. 

This Hemmingways parm looks like a US style version with lots of pasty tomato puree under the cheese. For me it's more about the tomato than the cheese. The other maybe Aussie style versions posted looked like there was little if any tomato involved??

At the risk of a slight hijack what about eggplant parm? I like a breaded, pan fried version with lots of tomato spaghetti sauce and a little cheese parmesan or pepperjack for my taste.

[shawnmj]

36 minutes ago, elperro said:

This Hemmingways parm looks like a US style version with lots of pasty tomato puree under the cheese. For me it's more about the tomato than the cheese. The other maybe Aussie style versions posted looked like there was little if any tomato involved??

At the risk of a slight hijack what about eggplant parm? I like a breaded, pan fried version with lots of tomato spaghetti sauce and a little cheese parmesan or pepperjack for my taste.

I’m a US California guy, probably why I liked it!

For pricing reasons just looked it up, it’s the Monday special (perfect timing) for 199 baht

Edited April 15 by shawnmj
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[LRanger]

Hemingway's soi Honey. Excellent

[Evil Penevil]

On 17/02/2024 at 12:59, Joeleg said:

He was visibly upset and told me it is not Italian and never came from Italy.

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I was to  learn that it originated in the US started by Italians who migrated there. The sauce/cheese however is Italian.

Chicken Parmesan does indeed have an interesting history.  It was invented in the late 1800s or early 1900s by Italian immigrants to the U.S.  They based it on a traditional Italian dish melanzane alla parmigiana (eggplant Parmesan), but  substituted cutlets of chicken (or veal) for the eggplant. 

Meat was much less expensive in the U.S. than in Europe at that time and immigrants of all nationalities often added or substituted meat in what had basically been vegetarian dishes in their home countries,  Moreover, eggplant wasn't widely cultivated or used in the U.S. back then, so it would have been difficult to obtain.   

The Australian version was probably inspired by U.S. military personnel stationed in Australia during WW II.  They often asked local restaurants to fix the type of food with which they were familiar.  In both the U.S. and Australia, chicken Parm became popular in the 1950s.

Evil

[Thomaz73]

19 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

They based it on a traditional Italian dish melanzane alla parmigiana (eggplant Parmesan), but  substituted cutlets of chicken (or veal) for the eggplant

Oh damn! Would love to try the veal version. Probably not easy to find in Pattaya. 

[Evil Penevil]

4 hours ago, Thomaz73 said:

Oh damn! Would love to try the veal version. Probably not easy to find in Pattaya. 

I can't recall seeing veal Parmesan on any menu in Pattaya, but that may just be a sign my memory is off.  I doubt I would ever order it in Pattaya because proper veal cutlets are difficult for restaurants to obtain in Thailand. 

Beyond quality ingredients, veal Parmesan can be tricky to make.  Because veal has a subtle flavor, it needs a lighter and less acidic tomato sauce than is commonly used for chicken Parm.  

Anyway, a pic of proper U.S.-style veal Parmesan.   An excellent meal with properly cooked pasta!

 

[Thomaz73]

3 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Anyway, a pic of proper U.S.-style veal Parmesan

Torture!! 

[Bruce Mangosteen]

On 17/02/2024 at 12:59, Joeleg said:

I was to  learn that it originated in the US started by Italians who migrated there. The sauce/cheese however is Italian.

I never knew this, but a quick google confirms it!  Wait until I tell my mother!  

[Bruce Mangosteen]

6 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

They based it on a traditional Italian dish melanzane alla parmigiana (eggplant Parmesan), but  substituted cutlets of chicken (or veal) for the eggplant. 

The eggplant version is one of my favorite Italian foods.  It's a damn pain in the ass to make, consisting of several lengthy and laborious steps, rather like lasagne but with the addition of peeling, slicing, breading and frying the eggplant for the layers of the dish.  It's absolutely heaven when done correctly, like my mom does.  

In some Italian delis in the US you can buy thin-sliced eggplant already breaded and fried.  These are great in sandwiches, but would turn an eggplant parm into soup.  The slices in eggplant parm have to be thick enough to be breaded, fried, then baked with cheese and sauce without becoming mush.

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Edited April 18 by Bruce Mangosteen

[Bruce Mangosteen]

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

I can't recall seeing veal Parmesan on any menu in Pattaya, but that may just be a sign my memory is off.

The place that used to be called "80 baht spaghetti" on Thappraya Rd. had it on the menu back when IIRC.  Not sure about today though.  

[thainet]

1 hour ago, Bruce Mangosteen said:

The place that used to be called "80 baht spaghetti" on Thappraya Rd. had it on the menu back when IIRC.  Not sure about today though.  

It is still there but sunken even more below the pavement. Remember the guy that owned it more than 20 years ago.

[Bruce Mangosteen]

50 minutes ago, thainet said:

It is still there but sunken even more below the pavement. Remember the guy that owned it more than 20 years ago.

I had heard he passed, but then I think I heard that what I heard was not true!  I hope he's still around, very nice guy.  Not much English but always pleasant.

The place has got a fancy new name, I forget what.  It's visible on Google street view.

[CliffHitMan]

On 16/04/2024 at 05:32, shawnmj said:

Wow it’s been four months and no one has mentioned Hemmingways. I honestly don’t remember my grade for this (this was taken in June last year) but it was their daily special and it was a good amount of food. If I finished, I was definitely hurting by the end. 

Looks great but would prefer Chips/Fries than Pasta.

[Syd Tybil]

1 hour ago, CliffHitMan said:

Looks great but would prefer Chips/Fries than Pasta.

Hemingways offers chips/fries as an option for the Monday special.

 

[ChiFlyer]

hmm - the only decent Chicken Parm that I have ever had in Pattaya was prepared at my house.

 

 

[shawnmj]

8 hours ago, CliffHitMan said:

Looks great but would prefer Chips/Fries than Pasta.

You could be as well (even though using “chips” is a giveaway that were from different continents), but I will say as an American I don’t think I’ve ever seen in our country a chicken parm with chips/fries instead of pasta. I basically thought pasta was a requirement of a chicken parm dish! You know how America loves to be different 

[CliffHitMan]

1 hour ago, shawnmj said:

You could be as well (even though using “chips” is a giveaway that were from different continents), but I will say as an American I don’t think I’ve ever seen in our country a chicken parm with chips/fries instead of pasta. I basically thought pasta was a requirement of a chicken parm dish! You know how America loves to be different 

Yeah I'm a Aussie got to have the Chips and Salad with the Parmi

[thegrogmonster]

6 minutes ago, CliffHitMan said:

Yeah I'm a Aussie got to have the Chips and Salad with the Parmi

Agree. This is what my local golf club does every Saturday night.

[shawnmj]

Wow that is wild to me!

[CliffHitMan]

On 24/03/2024 at 15:29, tko said:

The Nest calls this a chicken Parmo with hot shot.  Quite good.

 I wouldn't call that a parmi but it looks alright