anyone with prostate cancer enjoy Pattaya?

[bababooey62]

Just got diagnosed and haven't even made my first trip yet. Booked the flight a few weeks ago. Anyone ever had treatment and still enjoyed what Pattaya and the girls have to offer? I haven't read too many positive stories about ED going away. Thanks in advance those who share.

[Dilix]

Sorry to hear that. The first and foremost concern at this point is to treat the cancer so I don't know what your doctor is going to recommend (whether you should take this trip at this juncture or not). But WebMD suggests the following:

 

How Is Erectile Dysfunction Treated Following Prostate Cancer Treatment?

 

The current treatment options for erectile dysfunction for people who have received treatment for prostate cancer include:

 

 

• Pills, including Viagra, Cialis and Levitra
  
• Intracavernous injection therapy
  
• Vacuum constriction device
  
• Intraurethral therapy
  
• Penile prosthesis
  

 

Of course, all of the above must be in consultation with your doctor.

[Bakwan]

Hello, bababooey...

 

I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis. But it's not the end of the world. I've been there. I was diagnosed with PCa almost five years ago and had IMRT (radiation) treatments shortly thereafter which essentially wiped out my prostate. (So far, fortunately, it seems that the treatments also wiped out the PCa.) I've had some ED problems. How much of that is a result of the treatments I don't know. But the ED is alleviated somewhat by Cialis/Apcalis, etc., and even more so by the use of injections. In my opinion, the biggest loss, due to the loss of the prostate, is the lack of ejaculatory fluid. And it takes a lot of doing for me to reach climax. (That can be looked at as either a negative or a positive - I certainly don't have to worry about premature ejaculation and I can keep going for a long time.)

 

That's probably more detail than you were looking for, but I can tell you that I still have a great time in Pattaya (especially with the Devil's Den Imps). I'll bet you will too, although your doctor probably wouldn't recommend a trip immediately before, during or shortly after treatment.

 

Good luck, and feel free to PM me if I can be of any more help. (Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor. So don't rely on my comments as valid medical advice.)

 

Bakwan

 

P.S. You said you have booked a flight. Are you planning on being in Pattaya during the last three weeks of September? If so, I'll be there then and would be happy to get together with you.

Edited August 2, 2010 by Bakwan

[padfoot]

Hi Bababooey,

I'm sorry to hear your diagnosis. Your doctor should know how serious it is. If it's not to bad come over and have a good time.

I was diagnosed with it at the end of 2001. My PSA was moderately high and the urologist could feel some lumps. Six samples were taken from prostrate and three were cancerous. I talked to four different doctors and two of my closest friends about the various treatment options. I chose the radiation seed implants. I was fortunate that one of the originators of that treatment was one of my surgeons. Though he was not my urologist. I am cancer free at this time. That is the main thing, beating the cancer. I rarely suffer from ED. But I ejaculate very little, unless I hold back and lengthen the act. I have to say I am very happy with my sex life; it's a very nice bonus to being cancer free.

There is one caveat in my journey. When side effects were being explained to me I told my self that will not happen to me. I was told that about 20% of guys would need a catheter for a few days in the first 30 days after treatment. Well right at 30 days I woke up one night and couldn't pee. The next morning I was in a lot of pain and the doctor said come right in. I did and the took in back immediately and put one in. What a relief. But after two weeks I still couldn't pee. I had a tube put strait into my bladder; I now have a second belly button about three inches below my regular one. It makes a nice conversation piece with the girls. I had that tube for 8 months. All the plumbing works fine now, no problems. It was kind of nice having that strapped to my leg at ball games; I never had to get up and go to the can. I was a little worried I might no be able to return to work. My union even looked into disability, but everything worked out.

I was lucky in having a great doctor with a huge sense of humor. He thinks it's pretty cool that I'm living over here, enjoying my retirement.

If I could give you any advice it would be: keep moving forward, pick a doctor you are comfortable with, have a couple of friends you can bare your soul to about this whole thing, and keep a positive attitude ( no matter what ). You will get through this.

I learned to appreciate life. I learned some great lessons on handling adversity. It may sound corny, but today I am grateful for all I have.

[California5]

Just got diagnosed and haven't even made my first trip yet. Booked the flight a few weeks ago. Anyone ever had treatment and still enjoyed what Pattaya and the girls have to offer? I haven't read too many positive stories about ED going away. Thanks in advance those who share.

 

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis. In 2002 I was diagnosed with colon cancer, stage three. I had part of my colon removed then radiation and chemo treatments. I have been cancer free since then. I do have ED problems mainly as a result of the radiation treatments. Levitra works for me although I now ejaculate very little. Also I cannot get it up every time I want now even with the pills. So once in awhile I need a one or two day break then I am raring to go again. This is ok I am 62 so my age also has something to do with. I still enjoy my trips to Pattaya and make use of my abilities such as they are when I I am there. Even if I can't have a woman whenever I want I can still do pretty good and I am still alive.

[likeaking]

You guys are inspiraional. Got diagnosed with prostate cancer two years ago. Still relatively small growths, couldn't even hit it with the last biopsy and not palpable. PSA is okay . So doing watchful waiting rather than rushing into any treatment. Thanks for the sex after PC surgery stories.

[Thomaz73]

17 minutes ago, Brigantin said:

Sorry to hear that, buddy

You know, it's always a good idea to check the post date stamp of whatever you're replying to. 

The OP last visited in 2019. Hope he's ok. 

[likeaking]

On 14/09/2010 at 18:28, likeaking said:

You guys are inspiraional. Got diagnosed with prostate cancer two years ago. Still relatively small growths, couldn't even hit it with the last biopsy and not palpable. PSA is okay . So doing watchful waiting rather than rushing into any treatment. Thanks for the sex after PC surgery stories.

Still here after 12 years, 14 years after being diagnosed and still banging TGs. I'm fortunate, my cancer has just sat there, not grown or spread. Haven't needed any treatment, just regular PSA tests, digital exams, ultra sounds and an occasional biopsy. I wouldn't know I had it except but for the doctors saying I do. Blessed, indeed.

Edited September 28, 2022 by likeaking

[ChiFlyer]

An interesting topic.

I had a slowly climbing PSA for over 10 years. I had at least 4 negative biopsies, but the PSA kept rising. When it jumped to 10.something the doc ordered an MRI. This showed a spot in an unusual place. The doc did another biopsy and got a hit.

That was actually good news wrapped in bad news. The cancer was very localized and appeared not to be spreading. I was categorized as Stage-1. It is now 5 years later. I have been doing periodic PSA tests (every 4 months), an occasional MRI (every 18 months), and also had a more recent biopsy. I am still categorized as Stage-1 and my PSA is trending in the mid 7s for the last few years.

The "Watchful Waiting" approach has worked very well for me. I had a great urologist who helped me work my way to this point in time. He was someone that was sought after to speak at urology seminars, partly because he was a prostate cancer survivor, but also because he was a great doctor. He is now retired and I now see one of his proteges.

I remember the day when I was told that I had a positive biopsy. Knocked me back on my ass a bit, but it got me to thinking about what to do to have my affairs lined up.

For anyone that wants to know more about prostate cancer this John Hopkins link is very good IMO.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/brady-urology-institute/conditions_and_treatments/prostate_cancer/index.html

hmmm - they certainly seem to have commercialized it since the last time that I read  it.

For anyone who is interested in the sexual function reactions to treatment. I believe the following are true:

• It really depends on the person affected and the level of the disease.
• If you are receiving radiation therapy do not pass fluids of any kind into your partner's body. You could make that person seriously ill with radiation poising.
• NEVER take testosterone to address any ED problems. Testosterone feeds the cancer.
• If one has a rising PSA or a Biopsy positive test, do not take testosterone treatments. These feed the cancer.
• If one is undergoing radiation treatments, wear a condom for sure. The radiation will/can make your partner ill. This includes oral sex.
•  

[Pattaya_mad]

I`m actually interested to know how you guys were diagnosed because I read there are few if any symptoms until it spreads outside of the prostate.

obviously there are yearly PSA checks that I have after a scare 3 years ago that came back at 6.7 (got the all clear) what made you get it checked out?

[plahgat]

Since I´m getting old myself, I´m just wondering:

If you had the prostate and nerves to penis all removed and also gone through radiation therapy, can you still have an erection naturally? How about having an orgasm? Is it still possible without prostate?

Will ED medication help you to get an erection if you have removed prostate, or is penispump and penile prostetis the only option to have an erection hard enough for intercourse?

[momo5]

5 minutes ago, plahgat said:

Since I´m getting old myself, I´m just wondering:

If you had the prostate and nerves to penis all removed and also gone through radiation therapy, can you still have an erection naturally? How about having an orgasm? Is it still possible without prostate?

Will ED medication help you to get an erection if you have removed prostate, or is penispump and penile prostetis the only option to have an erection hard enough for intercourse?

After prostate removal, you’ll have dry orgasms (ie, without seminal fluid which comprises most of the volume of the cum shot).  Erection difficulties are quite common - if maintaining a decent sex life was important, I’d start with radiation and see where that got me before resorting to surgery.  

[tallguy]

21 minutes ago, plahgat said:

Since I´m getting old myself, I´m just wondering:

If you had the prostate and nerves to penis all removed and also gone through radiation therapy, can you still have an erection naturally? How about having an orgasm? Is it still possible without prostate?

Will ED medication help you to get an erection if you have removed prostate, or is penispump and penile prostetis the only option to have an erection hard enough for intercourse?

My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer over 20 years ago. At that time they did not automatically remove the prostate as that was regarded as worse than the disease itself. No idea about current treatment regimes but they seemed to think that trying to control the cancer via drugs was a better option. 

This is an observation from a long time ago and I claim no medical knowledge whatsoever.

[plahgat]

2 minutes ago, tallguy said:

My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer over 20 years ago. At that time they did not automatically remove the prostate as that was regarded as worse than the disease itself. No idea about current treatment regimes but they seemed to think that trying to control the cancer via drugs was a better option. 

This is an observation from a long time ago and I claim no medical knowledge whatsoever.

I´ve heard that for older guys like 70+ some doctors even nowadays don´t bother removing the prostate or even trying to cure the cancer unless it has spread, as you say it is more problematic without the prostate and all the chemo/laser therapy, and you can still live with the cancer life out.

[Pattaya_mad]

I`m led to believe that it can take several years before it spreads outside of the prostate itself, so with early diagnoses it`s very possible to live with it. 

[udontony]

On 04/07/2023 at 00:20, plahgat said:

Since I´m getting old myself, I´m just wondering:

If you had the prostate and nerves to penis all removed and also gone through radiation therapy, can you still have an erection naturally? How about having an orgasm? Is it still possible without prostate?

Will ED medication help you to get an erection if you have removed prostate, or is penispump and penile prostetis the only option to have an erection hard enough for intercourse?

With modern prostate removal surgery it is possible to leave the nerves intact.  This depends on the type of surgery and the skill of the surgeon, there are different ways to do a prostate removal.  With the robotic surgery it is definitely possible to get an erection without the need for medication, again depends on the skill of the surgeon.

On 04/07/2023 at 00:28, momo5 said:

After prostate removal, you’ll have dry orgasms (ie, without seminal fluid which comprises most of the volume of the cum shot).  Erection difficulties are quite common - if maintaining a decent sex life was important, I’d start with radiation and see where that got me before resorting to surgery.  

What you do for treatment in my opinion has to be advised by the urologist.  There are some aggressive prostate cancers that can spread quick, they need to be removed ASAP by operation.  There are some so slow growing that they do not need treatment and only need to be monitored.  In my case it was eight days between full diagnosis and the operation as the cancer was the most aggressive kind.

[Beachbiker]

 

How Is Erectile Dysfunction Treated Following Prostate Cancer Treatment?

The current treatment options for erectile dysfunction for people who have received treatment for prostate cancer include:

• 
  
• Pills, including Viagra, Cialis and Levitra
• Intracavernous injection therapy
• Vacuum constriction device
• Intraurethral therapy
• Penile prosthesis

[ChiFlyer]

On 02/08/2010 at 07:45, bababooey62 said:

Just got diagnosed and haven't even made my first trip yet. Booked the flight a few weeks ago. Anyone ever had treatment and still enjoyed what Pattaya and the girls have to offer? I haven't read too many positive stories about ED going away. Thanks in advance those who share.

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I got a positive biopsy reading about 5 years ago or so. I may be older than you. I am 74. I have read that the disease is more dangerous in those under 50.

Like most things, the seriousness of Prostate Cancer is a matter of degree. You need to work with your doctor to understand how serious your diagnosis is. It is estimated that if one were to dig up the corpses in any cemetery of men who died after turning 70, there would be a high percentage of positive PC tests and most of these people did not die from it.

In my case, I have been very lucky. The prostate gland is for diagnostic purposes divided into 6 sections. I had a hit in only one and it was analyzed as a lower grade cancer. Still when I got the first call, it very much sat me back in my chair.

I have been following the "Watchful Waiting" approach for the last 5 years. No treatment. A PSA every 3 months. An MRI every year. A biopsy if either the PSA or MRI indicates that a biopsy is warranted. My PSA numbers have been holding steady for several years now.

Listen to your urologist first, but other than that continue to live your life. I am having a decent sex life considering my age. 

[Hobmob]

I’m 72 and was diagnosed with prostate cancer 4 years ago. I have an unusual story-4 years ago my PSA jumped from 3.8 to 9.6 in 9 months. A huge red flag. A biopsy showed a Gleason score of 6(out of 10). The lowest cancer score.
An MRI showed a suspicious area so another guided biopsy was done as well as a genome test. 

The suspicious area was negative and the genome test showed I had the non-aggressive form, ie. a very low risk of dying from prostate cancer. Interestingly, my PSA scores(they did several to confirm) dropped to 6.2. And have hovered around 7 ever since. No treatment was involved.
 

The consensus from my Urology and Oncology team was that my original PSA  score of 9.6 was driven by a prostate infection that eventually resolved itself. My cancer was discovered by accident. 
 

A PSA score of 7 for a 72 year old man with a typically enlarged prostate(mine is double in size) is very normal. Meaning my PSA density is less than 4. A very normal score. Not really driven by cancer.

This has had no effect on my mongering and once you come to terms with the fact that you have cancer and it’s going untreated(active surveillance) you tend to go months without thinking about it.

Actually the worst side effects are the biopsy’s. Peeing blood for 10 days is very disconcerting. And no sex for a month. I have them every 3 years.