testosterone/provironum combination for libido

[thegman]

Hi,

 

There is loads of good info on this site re testosterone, libido etc, I was hoping to get some advice from some of the experts :-

 

 

I have lived here for many years, happily married with kids and enjoy the odd ST sojour (probably average once every 6 weeks). I like brand new girls/women, not really so interested in the Soi 6 crowd anymore, these are quite hard to find as I have limited time and live outside Pattaya.

 

Always had a high libido (up to age 30 I would do virtually any bird - even british grannies in the personals hehe), but a couple of years ago it dropped off big time. I had tests done at BPH and I was right at the bottom of the low range - 36 years old at the time. Also had some prehypertension (140/95) and was quite fat and unfit, had some sinus troubles (due to BKK) and other stuff at that time - generally poor health

 

Anyway I began to train with weights a year ago and take Andriol testocaps every day - this has made a huge improvement to my physique and my frame of mind.

 

I now have a 2 week window of opportunity from next week - my mrs and kids will be out of the country.... I am alone for the first time in 7 years - and I want to make the most of it. The testocaps have got me well within the usual range....but I want something to push it through the roof for 2 weeks( I want to fuck 3 times a day and be constantly gagging for more)

 

I was more or less decided that tomorrow I will get a 250 shot of Testoviron, and then next week take 50 mg of Provironum every day for the fortnight and a cialis every other day, then back onto the caps when the mrs comes back, but thought it would do no harm to run it past the members here (who seem to have vast knowledge)

 

Am I missing anything here - any input comment or other suggestions greatly appreciated.

 

 

Thanks for reading

[wee_fella]

Testoviron is testosterone enanthate, which has a half life of 10 days, mening it will peak in your system in at day 10, by which time your missus will almost be back! An alternative to Testoviron is Sustanon250 which is a blend of 4 tests, 2 of them short acting, some test enanthate, and some slow acting test. This will kick in sooner than the testoviron. It has 250mg of testosterone per ml, same as testoviron. Either way, one 1ml shot is not much for a 2 week tear up, I would recommend at least 1 x 2ml shot, or a 2 amps in one syringe.

 

Another option is 1 ml of either sustanon250 or testoviron, with 2 ml of testosterone propionate in the same syringe. Test prop is weaker (usually around 100mg of test per ml) but kicks in quicker, you will start feeling it a day or two later, it has a half life of about 2 days. It sounds like you have someone else doing your shots? Maybe go back 4 or 5 days later for another top up shot and that should last you 2 weeks. I personally get on the test prop every time I go to Thailand, but I have no probs doing my own shots and shoot it every second day. This time I will be mixing test suspension with the prop, suspension is the fastest acting test you can get, and only takes about 8 hrs to kick in!

 

Would def throw some proviron into the mix, its great for the libido!

 

Another option to consider is Melanotan 2. It is actually a tanning drug, but the side effects are raging hard-ons! Im on it at the moment, it is sensational! It is best injected every day, but they are easy subcutaneous shots, just into the fat on your stomach, the same way diabetics inject their insulin. However, you may have a hard time explaining the tan to your missus when she gets back from holidaay and you are more tanned than she is!!!

[thegman]

Thanks for the advice.

 

 

I was wondering if I could up the dose of testocaps to maybe 6 or 8 a day and get on the proviron, do you reckon that would be a big boost or not really worth the bother ? I don't have a clue where to buy any of this stuff or know who could inject it - the injection thing doesn't sound so nice but I would do it if really would be worth it. Do you think there would be any adverse longer term effects of whacking such a large dose of test in, ie. will by balls shut down, I just worry a bit that they may need some jump leads to get going again as now I just hang in there...I don't want to go crazy for a fortnight and then spend the next 6 months 'trying to play snooker with a piece of rope' hehe

 

 

I heard about the Melanotan and would love to try....I don't think its available here since that BM got his shop closed down recently ?

 

Thanks again for taking the time to reply

[wee_fella]

Thanks for the advice.

 

 

I was wondering if I could up the dose of testocaps to maybe 6 or 8 a day and get on the proviron, do you reckon that would be a big boost or not really worth the bother ? I don't have a clue where to buy any of this stuff or know who could inject it - the injection thing doesn't sound so nice but I would do it if really would be worth it. Do you think there would be any adverse longer term effects of whacking such a large dose of test in, ie. will by balls shut down, I just worry a bit that they may need some jump leads to get going again as now I just hang in there...I don't want to go crazy for a fortnight and then spend the next 6 months 'trying to play snooker with a piece of rope' hehe

 

 

I heard about the Melanotan and would love to try....I don't think its available here since that BM got his shop closed down recently ?

 

Thanks again for taking the time to reply

 

I have never taken test caps so I really can't comment on upping the dosage. But if you felt a differance when you started taking them, I assume they work, so taking 3 or 4 (or more) times your regular dosage should be fine. There are some other oral testosterones like dianabol that you could try, Ive never really used them just for hornyness though. Orals are harder on the body than shots tho, if you take them, take it seriously and don't put your liver under additional stress by drinking.

 

I take it from your post that you live in BKK? There are a couple of good pharmacies between Sukhumvit soi 2 and soi 4 that have a lot of testosterones, just ask for Sustanon250 or prop or whatever, some of it they keep 'under the counter', but they have everything you will need! If you are not comfortable doing your shots, I would imagine pretty much any doctor will do them for you (at least they will in Pattaya) but I wouldnt count on them having test on hand so you will need to buy and bring your own.

 

I have done a few steroid cycles in the past so I get a bit carried away with shots and stuff. I dont have a problem giving myself shots so I go reasonably hard whenever I go to Pattaya, however I play hard too, and aim for 3 shots a day. If you are just after a bit of a play around while the missus is away, then the test caps may be fine, you prob wouldnt need too many shots. As far as your balls shutting down, if you were doing say more than two shots a week, then yes they would shut down, but not until 4 or 5 weeks. These days, if I do gear I do 3 and 4 week cycles of fast acting geear, I find even at reasonably high dosages I can come off after 4 weeks and my balls are fine, same as normal, no shutdown. Two weeks and you will be fine.

 

As for melanotan 2 I get mine on line, check out melanotan.org . I think you would struggle to find any stores in LOS selling it.

[thegman]

Hi,

 

Could you explain in laymans terms exactly what Provironum is and what it does, I have read on many bodybuilding forums that it has a big effect on libido ?

 

Does it work on its own or in conjunction with high test levels ? Still not decided whether to go for the shot or up the capsule dose, BTW I think the testocaps bypasses the liver...not 100% on that though.

 

 

Thanks once more

 

ks

[wee_fella]

To be honest, Im not an expert on proviron, Ive only used it once in conjunction with a big test cycle, for its anti-estrogen (basically to stop the excess test turning to estrogen and giving you bitch-tits) properties. But I have a couple of good friends who are competative bodybuilders, they use it when they are coming off a big cycle, because their balls are shut down, their sex drive is gone for a couple of weeks until their balls recover. The proviron keeps their sex drive up while they are recovering. So therefore high test levels are not required while using proviron. In fact the opposite, if your test levels were high you wouldnt need proviron to keep your libido up.

 

 

 

Id suggest you jump on this thread:

http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/56287-calling-all-bodybuilders-roidmunchers-powerlifters-or-athletic-board-members/

 

Some intelligent, sensible and pragmatic dudes here that really know their stuff, I have been learning alot from this thread, Im sure they can explain proviron better than I can and could offer some good advice.

 

Do you know what the active ingrediant is in the testocaps? I googles it and it seems to be testosterone undecanoate, Im not sure how this could be taken orally. The only way for test to really bypass the liver is to inject it. If you took some injectable test and drank it, for example, it would be broken down in the stomach and would not make it to the bloodstream. Most oral steroids have had a methyl molecule added so it can make it pass throught the stomach, however this methylisation is what makes them so toxic to the liver.

 

Also, testosterone undecanoate is an extremely slow active test ester, so lets say you took 20 x the usual dosage today, you probably would not see a noticeable effect for several weeks. It would be in your blood stream, but it would take several weeks for the long undecanoate ester to be broken down, leaving free testosterone that your body can use. So if you are just planning on playing up for a couple or weeks, increaing your dosage prob would not be the best option.

 

Id be interested in these testocaps myself, I like to pump my test levels up when Im in LOS for 'recreational' purposes, but I like to have a few beers too, thats why I go for shots over tabs. But if the testocaps work without being toxic to the liver, it would sure beat having to jab myself...

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[Kayo]

See especially Bill Roberts analyses of steriods. He is not a jacked up gym rat but a trained scientist, and has great info on drug interactions.

 

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/proviron.htm

 

Proviron is a moderate steroid, which is used for test supplementation, and is known to help erectile function. IT is powerful enough to suppress national testosterone so do not take for a long time. It is usually stacked with other more powerful steroids. One great effect it has is to counter the estrogen rebound by blocking that reaction. It is pretty mild, unless taking high does. Is not liver toxic, and so safer than most steroids.