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I have been reading through all

topics about copies or generic

viagra, cialis etc.... the main

conclusion was that copies or

generics would not have comparable

and sustainable quality. Is there

any study or information about

this...... What about quality at

Tim's pharmacie ?

 

Ideas, opinions and facts are welcome

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if you get the really generic shit, like what they sell at the Cambo and Myanmar border, it won't do shit, no effect whatsoever

 

get the real thing

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The generics contain the same active ingedient and there is no difference in the original or the generic product. There isa possibility that you have a reaction to one of the inactive ingerdients such as the bulking agent or the colouring.

 

The issue in LoS is whether you are getting fake product rather than generic product.

 

 

The first generation tablets use the active ingredient sildenafil citrate

 

Viagra by Pfizer

CAVERTA by Ranbaxy

Silagra by Cipla

KAMAGRA by Ajanta

Edegra by Sun Pharmaceuticals

PENEGRA by Zydus Cadila,

Zenegra

 

 

The next generation tablets use the active ingedient tadalafil

 

Cialis

Apcalis

Tadalis

FORZEST by Ranbaxy

TadaRich

Erectalis

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if you get the really generic shit, like what they sell at the Cambo and Myanmar border, it won't do shit, no effect whatsoever

 

get the real thing

 

Not sure. I bought Cialis in Cambo at 100baht per box (1500 in Pattaya). I ASSUMED it was not gonna work but thought for 100 baht worth a try.

 

it worked a treat - no problem and lasted 3 days same as the original.

 

Would just like to add two proviso's in this thread:-

 

1. Even though it worked you dont KNOW" whats in them so that in itself is a risk.

 

2. Please remember - these are now prescription drugs in Thailand. Even though some pharmacists will sell it, its illegal to sell/purchase without the correct doctors note.

 

Almost ALL the big pharmasists in the Malls in BKK used to sell them but now NONE do (some smaller and side street guys still will). It is easier to get in Pattaya but a few weeks ago my usual supplier was out of stock so I went to a different one on 2nd Road. The (female) pharmacist in there got quite angry with me and gave me a bit of a lecture about asking her to supply illegal drugs.

 

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I have been reading through all

topics about copies or generic

viagra, cialis etc.... the main

conclusion was that copies or

generics would not have comparable

and sustainable quality. Is there

any study or information about

this...... What about quality at

Tim's pharmacie ?

 

Ideas, opinions and facts are welcome

 

the pharmacy near tims can be trusted ...mai pen rai

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My opinion? Branded stuff 100% of the time.

 

The generics are hit & miss & I don't have time to fuck around (no pun intended).

 

Someone will have to explain to me why 1/2 of a Blue Diamond works better than a 100 mg sachet of Kamagra Jelly.

 

Your choice. Your holiday. PFIZER for me thanks.

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  • 3 years later...

This was my experience.

I bought Viagra and Cialis at 25% of european price and also Kamagra (pills) in a pharmacy on Buokhao, corner Soi Diana.

Kamagra was working well. My opinion is that Kamagra is faster and long lasting than real Viagra (and no more side effects).

About Viagra.. I used Thai pills when I came back to my country. I'm not sure if it was real Viagra or fake, but every tablet was not or really less working (but who can say, variables are so many: stress, fatigue, food/alcol, ..). I can't say about Cialis, I haven't used it.

 

Comparing european Viagra to Thai viagra

Unfortunately I threw away empty packaging, but I downloaded some pics from the net.

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This the most common packaging. Pfizer logo and text on the back are printed in dark blue.

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This is similar to that I bought in Pattaya. Logo and text were printed in light blue

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European pills have a smooth surface

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Thai had wrinkled surface, like this, and also characters were a little different imo.

 

This does not claim to be the truth, only my sensation.

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What makes people think a generic molecule will have a different effect to a genuine molecule?

 

My H2O is better than yours.....

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Not sure. I bought Cialis in Cambo at 100baht per box (1500 in Pattaya). I ASSUMED it was not gonna work but thought for 100 baht worth a try.

 

it worked a treat - no problem and lasted 3 days same as the original.

 

I agree with this.

 

This is the Cialis sold in Pattaya for 1500b and in Cambodia for 100b. Exactly the same ! The Lilly Icos brand is just printed on the box.

Cialis-box.jpg

 

 

And this is the Cialis sold 2400b in Pattaya. You cannot find it in Cambodia. Seems to be the real one, as it is the same in my country.

Note the laser sticker "Lilly Icos" on the box.

cialis_box2.jpg

 

 

Both works the same. If you worry about your health, use the second one (with the laser sticker).

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What makes people think a generic molecule will have a different effect to a genuine molecule?

 

My H2O is better than yours.....

I wasn't referring to original vs generic, but to real one vs "maybe a fake".

However, in generic although the active ingredient is the same, sildenafil citrate, the formulation can be different.

Other ingredients (in Viagra cellulose, calcium hydrogen phosphate, magnesium, lactose etc.) can change some characteristics of the active ingredient,

such as time action (effect retard or longer, due to the different solubility)and even the effectiveness.

 

I don'drink tap H2O in Pattaya! ;-)

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I hate to admit it, but i have a lot of experience with generic boner pills.

 

Number one--find a trusted pharmacist. There are many fake generics around. The fake gels are watery to the touch.

 

They are not aphrodisiacs, so if you are burnt out, the girl is a lousy sex partner, or an annoying cunt, etc--they may not be as effective.

 

The aforementioned laboratories are approved by the WHO, and their products are prescribed by Indian doctors.

 

The better shape I get in, the better the little gems work.

 

Kamagra for short time--generic Cialis for long time.

 

IMHO

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I agree with this.

 

This is the Cialis sold in Pattaya for 1500b and in Cambodia for 100b. Exactly the same ! The Lilly Icos brand is just printed on the box.

Cialis-box.jpg

 

 

And this is the Cialis sold 2400b in Pattaya. You cannot find it in Cambodia. Seems to be the real one, as it is the same in my country.

Note the laser sticker "Lilly Icos" on the box.

cialis_box2.jpg

 

 

Both works the same. If you worry about your health, use the second one (with the laser sticker).

 

 

 

I bought 10 boxes of cialis for 900/box on my previous trip in nov. Last week I got the originals down to 700 per box.

1500bht or 2400 bht is a joke. Even 700 is a joke, thats 7000 for 40 pills. I buy 30 pills for 4000bht when I drop by beijing..

 

I just go into a new pharmacy and negotiate the price down, telling them I buy them much cheaper in the nearby pharmacy. It always worked for me.

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I have heard that generics like Kamagra can vary in the amount of active ingredient, thereby giving you instances ranging from nothing (normal) to a stiffy you could crack eggs on.

 

Also, there has recently been a somewhat disturbing trend on the Net, more and more discussions regarding young fellas using these drugs recreationally and becoming dependant. There is a concern that these drugs are reducing the ability of previously fine individuals to achieve and sustain an erection, based on the idea that, previously, motivation came from the phsychological aspect of Lust. Drugs that enhance the normal stimulation or give you the ability to bar up regardless kind of negate the need to get horny in the first place. Regardless of being generic or name brand.

I had a discussion with a doctor regarding this and he commented on the need to go "Au Naturale" occasionally.

 

google it and do some research.

"Remember, you've never lost the girl, only your turn"

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Last week I got the originals down to 700 per box.

1500bht or 2400 bht is a joke.

 

I agree it is a joke as the 1500b is sold 150b in cambodia. Why such a difference ?...

I've tried to bring down the price in Pattaya, but never managed.

 

So tell me your trick. Just walking out if they don't want to bring down the price and trying an other pharmacy doesn't work...

 

I've seen an 800b box, but it was realy looking like a copy. I think you got this one as an original.

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I agree it is a joke as the 1500b is sold 150b in cambodia. Why such a difference ?...

I've tried to bring down the price in Pattaya, but never managed.

 

So tell me your trick. Just walking out if they don't want to bring down the price and trying an other pharmacy doesn't work...

 

I've seen an 800b box, but it was realy looking like a copy. I think you got this one as an original.

 

I tried a couple of times in Phuket too. The woman behind the counter told me its 2500 for one box. I said thats ridicilous because I get it so much cheaper in Pattaya,

she said yeah its because of the tourists and this is Phuket etc.. I just walked out from there.

 

I usually start by telling them I want to buy like 30-40+ boxes, give me a good price, then I use that as a reference, try to get it down a bit and settle for about 10 boxes..

 

There are some more advanced pharmacies selling a lot of steroids and hormones etc as well as dick pills.. Just try to find them and let them think you are going to do a big deal with them... Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

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I have found Penagra to work just as well as the original Viagra. It's much cheaper at around 250B for 4 pills. Have found half a pill to be very effective.

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Staying on LK Metro soon. Is there are recommended Pharmacy for Cialis/Apcalis that is legit? Price? I plan on helicoptering for 7 days straight and will need the boost I suspect. ;)

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Yes, generic drug are cheap and also effective. But, branded drugs are more effective and most patients trust it.

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