I've had my current Verizon mobile number almost 20 years now and want to keep it.  I have my current Samsung S23 using it, and also have a Google Pixel 7 Pro that is paid off and could be unlocked for use as my local Thai number.  My question is; is keeping my current provider for U.S. calls worth it if I make sure to keep the calls under 120 minutes per month.  Sending text doesn't cost anything. The pay as you go plan called Global Choice is only $10 per month for 120 minutes.  I've been reading up on Google Voice, and Google Fi  and porting my number to their service, but they are not really solid plans for using VOIP as Google will drop you if they think you are using outside of North America.  Plus its also the 2FA that worries me needing to authenticate with my bank accounts in America and trying to do so using VOIP.  I'm thinking if my budget allows it then just keep Verizon and not deal with this hassle.  Am I missing something and Verizon is going to tack on a huge service fee onto my account for living in Thailand.   Am I tacking on another expense I could easily avoid while I move and retire in Thailand?

If you can get a voice, sms plan for $10/mo, sounds like a win to me. 

I've been paying Google Fi $26/mo for the last 4 years living here in Thailand. The reason they don't drop me is because I turn off data and use plane mode when making Internet phone calls to the US. ie, the call goes via WiFi. My mom can't deal with video calls, so must use voice. 2FA sms has not been a problem using this method. 

It wouldn't have been worth it to me! I dropped AT&T right before moving here in 2018.

 

Sometimes I use my Thai number to call the States....maybe once a month to my credit union. Not expensive!

 

But mainly I use an app called 2nd Line to make calls to the US! You choose a US number... free calls and text to USA.

First, you can keep your phone number if you switch to another carrier.

Personally, I like the convenience of having a USA phone number.  Instant phone, text and data as soon as you land here.

When I traveled a lot for work and lived in Thailand between trips (how I miss those days!), I signed up for Consumer Cellular, because they had a $5/month no data paygo plan, which I used to "park" my USA phone number when not in the USA.  I was going to recommend it here, so I logged on to see if it was still $5, and discovered that they got rid of it, and all their plans have voice, text and at least 1GB of data.  Cheapest plan is $20/month.  So, not recommended, and I will look elsewhere when I move back to Thailand post-retirement.

$10/mo is good given Verizon's excellent USA coverage, so I'd probably keep that if you want to retain a USA phone number.  VOIP services like Google Voice and Skype depend on available wifi, which I personally wouldn't want to depend on if I had a problem.  YMMV, of course.

Maybe I missed something when I was prepping to live here regarding keeping my USA phone number. I went to Tmobile, Att, Verizon and explained I wanted a phone plan that would allow me to keep and use my number while living in Thailand.

I was told there were no plans to cover that. Also the process for connecting and using my number with Google voice was not as simple as I thought it would be, at least for mine because I was using smart talk (I think that's the name) from Walmart. 

So I just went with a new number from Google voice for free. Dont disconnect your current number until google voice is set up because they use your number to text you for set up.

I updated the pertinent accounts with the Google voice number, did many tests to ensure I was receiving texts and codes. So far so good for everything. I only use it on my laptop, never have set it up on my phone.

If you can get a carrier to accommodate you, I think its worth it, no worries about banking issues or etc... but I couldn't find any.

Edited January 27, 20242 yr by Nanaman

1 minute ago, Nanaman said:

If you can get a carrier to accommodate you, I think its worth it, no worries about banking issues or etc... but I couldn't find any.

I think the idea is not to tell them.

2 minutes ago, Bruce Mangosteen said:

I think the idea is not to tell them.

But if you don't, how's that gonna work when your living here? I was thinking we needed an international set up for it to work. Does it still work for calls and texts if it's just the American service plan?

Just now, Nanaman said:

But if you don't, how's that gonna work when your living here?

Get a local SIM card and use that as your principle phone number when away.  Disable your USA SIM unless you're expecting a text, such as a OTP.  Make sure your carrier (and phone) supports VOIP calls (also called "Wifi calling" on the phone menus) if you want to use your USA number from abroad to appear as though you're calling from the US.  Have a US address for them to send mail to.

I lived in Thailand for 10 years and had a USA phone service that didn't even support international roaming.  Pulled their SIM card out of my phone when traveling.  Absolutely no problem.  Now back living in the US, still have the same carrier (Consumer Cellular) and had no problem during my most recent trip to Thailand.

I chose to drop my US carrier (Verizon @ $75 a month). I did get a Skype account in order to have a US phone number. I believe this currently costs $60 a year. There is a problem with Skype service in that one can not receive text messages with attachments. There is a Google option that some others seem to like better.

After a while I dropped my US credit cards as well (Chase and Citibank) as they could not handle a Skype number. I got an AMEX US card and I have had zero problems with them. I did have some admin problems with AMEX at startup. They did not care for my mail forwarding address. I spoke to them on the phone about it and that cleared things up. I basically said -> "hey I am a retiree. I live at multiple locations depending on the season. I need a drop and forward address."

Edited January 27, 20242 yr by ChiFlyer

There are numerous ways to accomplish this task, but each of us may have slightly different needs.

Although I reside in Thailand for approximately 8 and a half months each year, I require my USA cell number for business purposes all year round, particularly during the 3 and a half months when I am in the USA for business.

To accomplish this, I have linked my T-Mobile USA number to my internal eSIM.

Additionally, I have my True Thai number in the external SIM tray.

Since I frequently travel to Japan and Vietnam while in Thailand, I rely on my USA international capabilities for communication during those trips.

You can use Verizon text messaging without enabling your Verizon (e)Sim by using the Verizon Messaging app on Android or Message+ on iOS. Have used the iOS app extensively in Thailand.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en_US

My question is more of a "vacation" one than an expat one, but can you use texting features without incurring all of the international charges by only connecting via WiFi? 

For example, I carry a work phone that I only use for one messaging app.  I keep it in Airplane mode and enable the WiFi to avoid the glut of spam calls that I am subjected to on a daily basis.

3 hours ago, Luv2Phuket said:

...can you use texting features without incurring all of the international charges by only connecting via WiFi? 

Well, I think that's part of the point of wifi calling, since your carrier doesn't have to bear the expense of the messages, but the best way to check this is, unfortunately, to try it.

If you’re moving here, before canceling any phone numbers in your home country, make sure any apps like banks or retirement funds that require two part verification have a way of getting the code to your phone here. I neglected to do so and last month I got locked out of my Bank of America account because they suspected fraud. They couldn’t verify online or by phone. It took two trips to their only branch and I’d say at least 20 calls/transfers to different representatives to get it sorted.
I now have a US Skype number linked to those type accounts.

On 27/01/2024 at 21:09, forqalso said:

If you’re moving here, before canceling any phone numbers in your home country, make sure any apps like banks or retirement funds that require two part verification have a way of getting the code to your phone here. I neglected to do so and last month I got locked out of my Bank of America account because they suspected fraud. They couldn’t verify online or by phone. It took two trips to their only branch and I’d say at least 20 calls/transfers to different representatives to get it sorted.
I now have a US Skype number linked to those type accounts.

So if I (while still here in the US) set up a Skype phone number, then when I move to Thailand next year I can use that number for all the two part verification crap by my bank, social security, etc?  I thought I read in a thread somewhere they either can't send text messages to those virtual phone's, or don't "like" them....?

On 27/01/2024 at 14:06, Luv2Phuket said:

My question is more of a "vacation" one than an expat one, but can you use texting features without incurring all of the international charges by only connecting via WiFi? 

For example, I carry a work phone that I only use for one messaging app.  I keep it in Airplane mode and enable the WiFi to avoid the glut of spam calls that I am subjected to on a daily basis.

Yes, just use WiFi and turn off the cellular for that line.  Easy if you have an iPhone.  The only time I get his with an extra charge when I am in Thailand for 3 months is if someone calls me AND leaves a voice mail.  If I have to return their call I use my Google voice number over WiFi.

FYI I use T-Mobile 

4 hours ago, Plazz said:

So if I (while still here in the US) set up a Skype phone number, then when I move to Thailand next year I can use that number for all the two part verification crap by my bank, social security, etc?  I thought I read in a thread somewhere they either can't send text messages to those virtual phone's, or don't "like" them....?

I had a major issue with Bank of America after moving here and before the Skype number was set up. Now, when I rarely need to use two part verification with them, it goes through fine. Social Security and the VA send two part verification to my Thai phone number with no issues. 

5 hours ago, Plazz said:

So if I (while still here in the US) set up a Skype phone number, then when I move to Thailand next year I can use that number for all the two part verification crap by my bank, social security, etc?  I thought I read in a thread somewhere they either can't send text messages to those virtual phone's, or don't "like" them....?

Although Skype may receive texts I'm a little skeptical about it receiving short code texts that most banks and credit card companies send.

I'm in the Philippines and had the same issues with 2FA texts. I finally solved the problem by getting Tello. You can get it up and running while you're in the US and port your number if you want. It runs on the T Mobile network. Pay as you go, no contract, and cafeteria style plans that you can change to suit your needs anytime you want. Currently I pay $5 per month. For redundancy I have MagicJack for voice calls. It will not work for short code texts.

2 minutes ago, ValleyCowboy said:

It will not work for short code texts.

Tello?  Or Magic Jack?

There was a time Skype didn’t accept SMS texts, though could send them.  Perhaps this has changed.  I’ve been using Google Voice for a very long time which does accept SMS texts without issue, as well as recognized by WhatsApp as a valid number.  Just two things with Google Voice … need to set it up in the US and need to use it at least once a month or else it gets cancelled. 

1 hour ago, Plazz said:

Tello?  Or Magic Jack?

Magic Jack will not receive short code texts.

I use WiFi calling with a cheap US plan with no roaming or international features.  Such a plan doesn't care where in the world you are and you generally don't run the risk of cancellation by the provider.