Is AVANI a Marriott?

[Whooah]

I continue to see references to Marriott in Pattaya, usually related to "poll" forum questions.

 

When I click on the word Marriott highlited in the posts it takes me to Agoda featuring the AVANI property.

 

Marriott's site does not show this as their property. Agoda's AVANI description doesn't mention Marriott.

 

I ask as I often stay at Marriotts and have points to pay for stay - always looking for a good deal!

 

Any insights?

[davidge]

Avani took over the hotel from Marriott last year.

Different company altogether.

 

The only Marriott in Pattaya now, afaik, is the Courtyard - which isn't in the best location.

[Luv2Phuket]

davidge is correct

 

IF you had booked the Marriott on points before it ceased to be a Marriott property, they would have honored the reservation and permitted the stay.  They also maintained existing reservations; however, stays there ceased to earn Marriott points once the changeover occurred (last October, I believe).  I had a reservation there for last November, but cancelled, as my mnail goal was to get enough Marriott points to top me off for 5 free nights and a future trip.

 

While the hotel continues to be a very nice property and there has been no talk of a "drop off" in quality of service, the fact that I can no longer earn/use Marriott points there has pretty much taken it off of my list.  I a "hotel points whore," so my choices in Pattaya effectively have been reduced to the Holiday Inn, Hilton and InterContinental, although the Courtyard property does intrigue me (as does the Holiday Inn Express that is coming to Soi Buakhao possibly this year)

[davidge]

davidge is correct

 

IF you had booked the Marriott on points before it ceased to be a Marriott property, they would have honored the reservation and permitted the stay.  They also maintained existing reservations; however, stays there ceased to earn Marriott points once the changeover occurred (last October, I believe).  I had a reservation there for last November, but cancelled, as my mnail goal was to get enough Marriott points to top me off for 5 free nights and a future trip.

 

While the hotel continues to be a very nice property and there has been no talk of a "drop off" in quality of service, the fact that I can no longer earn/use Marriott points there has pretty much taken it off of my list.  I a "hotel points whore," so my choices in Pattaya effectively have been reduced to the Holiday Inn, Hilton and InterContinental, although the Courtyard property does intrigue me (as does the Holiday Inn Express that is coming to Soi Buakhao possibly this year)

There's another Holiday Inn Express being built not far from the Courtyard - opposite Camelot hotel.

Only cleared the plot so far though.

[striderman]

(as does the Holiday Inn Express that is coming to Soi Buakhao possibly this year)

no chance this year.

 

 

 

taken lunchtime today

[davidge]

At least they've got the swimming pool built.

[QuotaMan]

Prices seem cheaper than when it was Marriott?

 

I might consider staying there next time. The location is ideal for my requirements.

 

I don't participate in hotel rewards programs much so that doesn't influence me.

 

https://www.gha.com/Hotel-Brands

[Whooah]

Thanks everyone. I wish Marriott had a property closer to the action. Too far where Courtyard is located.

[Luv2Phuket]

no chance this year.

 

jan 22 042 (Custom).JPG

 

 

taken lunchtime today

 

That looks a lot like it did LAST month!  555

 

(I was trying to be optimistic, since it's only January)

[hammerman]

An important update from Avani hotel. 

Will make a big difference to a lot of BMs, myself included, if true.

 

Subject: AVANI Pattaya Resort and Spa - "Visitor Fee"

 

Dear Valued Partner,

 

To maintain our hotel’s reputation as a 5-star resort and for the safety and security of our hotel guests, kindly be informed that, with effective from 1^st May 2017, we will implement the charge for ‘visitor fee’ to all sources of booking, and the following policy will be applied.

 

• Visitor must be registered at the Front Desk. Staff will check ID card or passport for: the correct name, picture and age of the visitor.

 

• hotel will not allow any person who is less than 18 years of age and those who does not carry an ID card or passport with them, to go up to the guest’s room.

 

• The Front Desk staff will inform the guest of the charge for “visitor fee” at 1,000 Baht nett per visitor per night.

 

• Guest will be able to settle the fee by cash/credit card or charge to guest’s room and settle upon check out.

 

• Visitor will be escorted at all times, to the guest’s room. If he/she is visiting alone.

 

• Visitor will be required to leave the hotel premise before noon, and he/she is not allowed to use any of the hotel facilities.

            

We thank you for your kind and continued support. Please feel free to contact us should you require any further information or assistance.

 

Best regards,

 

Panchalee Ketkaew – Sales Coordinator, AVANI Pattaya Resort & Spa 218/2-4 Moo 10, Beach Road | Pattaya 20260 | Thailand T: +66 (0) 3841 2120 | M: +66 (0) 8 6296 9342 | E: [email protected] | avanihotels.com

[just hanging]

I think they are now part of the Pullman group, not sure.  the Pullman in Bangkok has never checked a girl I brought in, although I do use the back door.   They see that but never check

 

I always make sure when I book to show 2 adults for the room, I just dont know who the other will be and they never ask

[shadowmaster1971]

Avani is part of the Minor Food Group/Minor hotel Group

[striderman]

On 1/23/2017 at 1:10 AM, Luv2Phuket said:

 (as does the Holiday Inn Express that is coming to Soi Buakhao possibly this year)

 

pic taken april 20

[hammerman]

Avani, is part of minor hotel group. They are an extremely large group branding incorporating many with hotel chains such as Anantara, Per Aquam.

I have been told that The Royal Garden Resort, prior to Marriott, was owned by same company and leased to Marriott. Also one of the first Pattaya hotels to introduce joiner fees. 

[davidge]

7 hours ago, hammerman said:

An important update from Avani Hotel. 

Will make a big difference to a lot of BMs, myself included, if true.

 

Subject: AVANI Pattaya Resort and Spa - "Visitor Fee"

 

Dear Valued Partner,

 

To maintain our hotel’s reputation as a 5-star resort and for the safety and security of our hotel guests, kindly be informed that, with effective from 1^st May 2017, we will implement the charge for ‘visitor fee’ to all sources of booking, and the following policy will be applied.

 

• Visitor must be registered at the Front Desk. Staff will check ID card or passport for: the correct name, picture and age of the visitor.

 

• Hotel will not allow any person who is less than 18 years of age and those who does not carry an ID card or passport with them, to go up to the guest’s room.

 

• The Front Desk staff will inform the guest of the charge for “visitor fee” at 1,000 Baht nett per visitor per night.

 

• Guest will be able to settle the fee by cash/credit card or charge to guest’s room and settle upon check out.

 

• Visitor will be escorted at all times, to the guest’s room. If he/she is visiting alone.

 

• Visitor will be required to leave the hotel premise before noon, and he/she is not allowed to use any of the hotel facilities.

            

We thank you for your kind and continued support. Please feel free to contact us should you require any further information or assistance.

 

Best regards,

 

Panchalee Ketkaew – Sales Coordinator, AVANI Pattaya Resort & Spa 218/2-4 Moo 10, Beach Road | Pattaya 20260 | Thailand T: +66 (0) 3841 2120 | M: +66 (0) 8 6296 9342 | E: [email protected] | avanihotels.com

If that is enforced then the hotel would basically be a no-go for any monger.

[matrix123]

Don't know how Avani is going to enforce this "visitor fee" if the guests come back from the beach road entrance. When it was Marriott, only one security on duty there.

[hammerman]

Below is a response to a direct email from the Directot of Operations "Avani"

The Pattaya clean up begins? 

 

Dear Mr. xxxxxxxx,

 

Thank you for your email and upcoming visit to AVANI Pattaya,

 

As part of the government (National Council for Peace and Order) efforts to clean up Pattaya and eradicate prostitution in the interests of public safety and to restore “happiness” we have been instructed by the Thai hotel Association to enforce a stricter control with “visitors”. Therefore the following rules will be effective May 1^st 2017;

• Visitor must be registered at the Front Desk. ID card or passport will be checked for the correct name, picture and age of the visitor.
• hotel will not allow any person who is less than 18 years of age and those who does not carry an ID card or passport with them to visit the guest rooms.
• A “visitor fee” of 1,000 Baht nett per visitor per day/night.
• Guest will be able to settle the fee by cash/credit card or charge to guest’s room and settle upon check out.
• Visitor will be escorted to the guest’s room if he/she is arriving alone.
• Visitor will be required to leave the hotel premise before noon, and he/she is not allowed to use any of the hotel facilities.

If the reservation is made for two people and you check-in together and register together upon arrival the above (except point 2) will not apply.

 

Above is in line with the strict rules and regulations we have to follow, common practice in Pattaya and also helps us better ensuring guest safety and security which remains our paramount objective.

 

Best Wishes,

Torgrim

[biggles]

Mongers just need to avoid ANY place that charges a joiner fee. Mate stayed in one place that charged him for an afternoon ST and again when he brought another girl back for LT later that night. Just an excuse to rip off the customer, nothing to do with security or "happiness" They could  still check ID etc, even without charging a fee, most decent hotels do this. 

[Luv2Phuket]

On 4/26/2017 at 10:57 PM, hammerman said:

Below is a response to a direct email from the Directot of Operations "Avani"

The Pattaya clean up begins? 

 

Dear Mr. xxxxxxxx,

 

Thank you for your email and upcoming visit to AVANI Pattaya,

 

As part of the government (National Council for Peace and Order) efforts to clean up Pattaya and eradicate prostitution in the interests of public safety and to restore “happiness” we have been instructed by the Thai Hotel Association to enforce a stricter control with “visitors”. Therefore the following rules will be effective May 1^st 2017;

• Visitor must be registered at the Front Desk. ID card or passport will be checked for the correct name, picture and age of the visitor.
• Hotel will not allow any person who is less than 18 years of age and those who does not carry an ID card or passport with them to visit the guest rooms.
• A “visitor fee” of 1,000 Baht nett per visitor per day/night.
• Guest will be able to settle the fee by cash/credit card or charge to guest’s room and settle upon check out.
• Visitor will be escorted to the guest’s room if he/she is arriving alone.
• Visitor will be required to leave the hotel premise before noon, and he/she is not allowed to use any of the hotel facilities.

If the reservation is made for two people and you check-in together and register together upon arrival the above (except point 2) will not apply.

 

Above is in line with the strict rules and regulations we have to follow, common practice in Pattaya and also helps us better ensuring guest safety and security which remains our paramount objective.

 

Best Wishes,

Torgrim

If true that they are simply following a governmental directive, this is pretty scary.  It's easy to say "avoid hotels that charge a joinder fee"...until ALL hotels are charging one!

[striderman]

10 hours ago, Luv2Phuket said:

If true that they are simply following a governmental directive, this is pretty scary.  It's easy to say "avoid hotels that charge a joinder fee"...until ALL hotels are charging one!

avani simply looking for an excuse to justify the charge

[southsidebruce]

Avani joins the former Marriott Resort and Spa on the Chao Praya River (which is now an Anantara Hotel)... The owner is a very interesting guy... Was an American citizen, renounced that and became a Thai citizen... He made a fortune, lost that fortune, made another fortune, now a very successful billionaire... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Heinecke

Have spoken with employees at the Avani, before and after the change... Some have met Heinecke and all who met him say he seems to be a down to earth, nice guy... and the employees that have been with the company awhile are loyal, no plans to leave the company...

Anantara hotels have real nice (and expensive) hotels in Chiang Mai, Chiang Mai, Hua Hin, Phuket, Bangkok, etc, etc, as well as other countries... Relatively high end hotels... 

http://www.anantara.com/thailand/