Electricity x baht per unit.

[coolsmoe]

Hi guys,

 

For monthly rentals there's always a stipulation to pay xxx baht per unit of electricity. How many units of electricity can one expect to consume in one month? (Room with aircon)...

 

Thanks,

C_S

[mxer90]

My last monthly bill is next to my laptop, 373 units, 2611 baht = 7 baht per unit.  I have a 60sqm apartment, 2 rooms with a sliding partition between, one ac unit, full size fridge freezer, 2 TV's and small kitchen area.

 

I put the AC on a few times a day, for 10 or 20 mins, then use the fan.  I live comfortably, 2600 baht (about 12 GBP a week) is cheap, so I'm happy.

[ProudAussie]

Mine was 1380 baht for this month, had it around 1000 baht most months....have tv,ac,fridge..and a expensive TGF 

[6853395]

I looked into this a short while ago and did the following write-up:

 

 

Pattaya Properties breaks this it down in terms of Baht per Kwh and

Baht per cubic-meter on this page:

 

http://www.pattayaproperties24.com/waterelectricitythailand.html

 

Electricity:

 

For electricity, it's a sliding scale, but once you exceed 250 kwh,

it's about 2.8 baht/kwh, or about 9 cents per kwh.

 

This compares to 13 cents per kwh for Pacific Gas and Electric Co. in

California, one of the highest rates in the USA.  Also, that's the

below-baseline rate, so once you exceed a certain amount of usage, as

most home owners do, it gets even more expensive per kwh, as we have

tiered rates.

 

EGAT - Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand - has tiered rates

as well, starting at about 4 cents per kwh going up to about 9 kwh, so

most of the charges will likely be between 4 and 7 cents for low-usage

customers.

 

Relatively speaking, electricity in Thailand is pretty cheap.

However, if you run your air conditioner every night in your bedroom,

this can add approximately 1,000 baht per month to your monthly bill.

As the chart notes, a small house with a computer, TV, refrigerator,

and air conditioning each night may run as high as 2,000 baht per

month.  Bigger houses can easily go to 6,000 baht per month.

 

Water:

 

For water, I had to do some conversions to compare to the USA.

 

For low residential usage, as they have tiered rates as well, water

may range from 8.5 to 10 baht per cubic meter, but I estimated about

10 baht per cubic meter for comparison.

 

In the USA, they normally have a monthly service charge and a quantity

rate.  While in the USA, service charges are based on a complex rate

design consisting of fixed capital costs, independent of water

consumption, Thailand seems to be an arbitrary 100 baht per month for

the monthly service charge.  If you live in an apartment, they

generally just charge for usage only.

 

So, assuming 10 baht per cubic meter, about $0.923 per CCF (100 Cubic

Feet, which is what the bill for in the USA), and assuming the average

household uses 11 CCF per month:

 

$3.15 service charge (100 Baht) + ($0.923) x (11 CCF) = $13.30 per

month (or about 408 Baht per month).

 

Water usage, as well as monthly service charge, in Thailand is very

cheap compared to the USA, especially in California.  Service charges

range from $25 to $90 per month (independent of monthly usage) and

quantity rates may range from $2 to $6 per month.  It's not uncommon

to see monthly water rates between $35 and $150 per month per

household depending upon the source of supply.  Of course, water here

must be safe and drinkable, which is not a requirement in Thailand, so

there's no a high cost for decontamination and water quality

regulation.

 

When I was living in an apartment in Bangkok in 2005, I was paying

less than $5 per month for water usage.  I could never understand how

much I was paying per kwh or cubic meter because they quoted me a

price of "18 baht per unit" for water and "7 baht per unit" for

electricity, or something like that.  However, no one could tell me

what a "unit" was and I don't think anyone at the desk actually knew.

 

Since water was very cheap, I didn't worry to much if they were

re-selling from the local utility at a higher rate, which is illegal

in the USA of course.  Also, since I had no idea what I was paying, in

baht per kwh, for electricity, I simply paid the bills.  I noticed

that using a fan vs. the air conditioner was about 600 baht vs. 2000

baht per month at the time.  They were probably charging me far more

than what they pay for electricity through EGAT, but I never knew the

baht per kwh rates and it was the Thai style to say you're being

charged "per unit" even though no one knows what the heck a "unit"

was.

 

So there you have it:

 

Electricity peaks at about 2.8 baht per kwh, or about 9 cents per kwh

 

Water is less than 10 baht per cubic meter, or less than $1 per CCF.

 

Both water and electricity are pretty cheap, comparatively speaking,

but expensive for low-income Thais of course.

 

Monthly service charges are about 100 baht per month for each.

 

At my job, I do highly complex rate design for water companies, large

and small, in addition to public policy and financial regulation.  I

may consider working volunteer in the utilities and/or regulation

sector in Thailand when I'm retired.

[tilac4u]

Hi,

 

I know it's a question about Pattaya but for comparison here are my expenses in BKK,

 

I stay in a condo in BKK and I pay my electricity bill directly to MEA (electricity company), for the last 3 months the average I paid was about 4.4 THB per unit

 

Water bill is paid at juristic office here at the condo and is 17 THB per unit

 

True Internet (10 Mbps) is 590 THB per month and for the TOT land line I pay 107 THB per month, both are in my name and their bills are paid directly by me.

 

TV I pull from 2 Satellite dishes on the roof (FTA on Thaicom 5 and Asiasat 3) for free, the rest I stream/download from Internet.

 

Cheers

 

T.

[JAI DEE MAK]

Hi,

 

I know it's a question about Pattaya but for comparison here are my expenses in BKK,

 

I stay in a condo in BKK and I pay my electricity bill directly to MEA (electricity company), for the last 3 months the average I paid was about 4.4 THB per unit

 

Water bill is paid at juristic office here at the condo and is 17 THB per unit

 

True Internet (10 Mbps) is 590 THB per month and for the TOT land line I pay 107 THB per month, both are in my name and their bills are paid directly by me.

 

TV I pull from 2 Satellite dishes on the roof (FTA on Thaicom 5 and Asiasat 3) for free, the rest I stream/download from Internet.

 

Cheers

 

T.

 

 

Your costs are spot on except for the Water it is normally higher,  average for a condo would be about 35 bt per unit.

 

JDM

[jumpybongo]

very informative thread.

will help a lot of condo renters understand the costs clearly.

[Spellforce]

If you are using AC at night around 3,000 per month, only fan around 1,500.

And for those who have a house with a private swimming pool, add more 1,500 bahts.

[jumpybongo]

I looked into this a short while ago and did the following write-up:

 

 

Pattaya Properties breaks this it down in terms of Baht per Kwh and

Baht per cubic-meter on this page:

 

http://www.pattayaproperties24.com/waterelectricitythailand.html

 

Electricity:

 

For electricity, it's a sliding scale, but once you exceed 250 kwh,

it's about 2.8 baht/kwh, or about 9 cents per kwh.

 

This compares to 13 cents per kwh for Pacific Gas and Electric Co. in

California, one of the highest rates in the USA. Also, that's the

below-baseline rate, so once you exceed a certain amount of usage, as

most home owners do, it gets even more expensive per kwh, as we have

tiered rates.

 

EGAT - Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand - has tiered rates

as well, starting at about 4 cents per kwh going up to about 9 kwh, so

most of the charges will likely be between 4 and 7 cents for low-usage

customers.

 

Relatively speaking, electricity in Thailand is pretty cheap.

However, if you run your air conditioner every night in your bedroom,

this can add approximately 1,000 baht per month to your monthly bill.

As the chart notes, a small house with a computer, TV, refrigerator,

and air conditioning each night may run as high as 2,000 baht per

month. Bigger houses can easily go to 6,000 baht per month.

 

Water:

 

For water, I had to do some conversions to compare to the USA.

 

For low residential usage, as they have tiered rates as well, water

may range from 8.5 to 10 baht per cubic meter, but I estimated about

10 baht per cubic meter for comparison.

 

In the USA, they normally have a monthly service charge and a quantity

rate. While in the USA, service charges are based on a complex rate

design consisting of fixed capital costs, independent of water

consumption, Thailand seems to be an arbitrary 100 baht per month for

the monthly service charge. If you live in an apartment, they

generally just charge for usage only.

 

So, assuming 10 baht per cubic meter, about $0.923 per CCF (100 Cubic

Feet, which is what the bill for in the USA), and assuming the average

household uses 11 CCF per month:

 

$3.15 service charge (100 Baht) + ($0.923) x (11 CCF) = $13.30 per

month (or about 408 Baht per month).

 

Water usage, as well as monthly service charge, in Thailand is very

cheap compared to the USA, especially in California. Service charges

range from $25 to $90 per month (independent of monthly usage) and

quantity rates may range from $2 to $6 per month. It's not uncommon

to see monthly water rates between $35 and $150 per month per

household depending upon the source of supply. Of course, water here

must be safe and drinkable, which is not a requirement in Thailand, so

there's no a high cost for decontamination and water quality

regulation.

 

When I was living in an apartment in Bangkok in 2005, I was paying

less than $5 per month for water usage. I could never understand how

much I was paying per kwh or cubic meter because they quoted me a

price of "18 baht per unit" for water and "7 baht per unit" for

electricity, or something like that. However, no one could tell me

what a "unit" was and I don't think anyone at the desk actually knew.

 

Since water was very cheap, I didn't worry to much if they were

re-selling from the local utility at a higher rate, which is illegal

in the USA of course. Also, since I had no idea what I was paying, in

baht per kwh, for electricity, I simply paid the bills. I noticed

that using a fan vs. the air conditioner was about 600 baht vs. 2000

baht per month at the time. They were probably charging me far more

than what they pay for electricity through EGAT, but I never knew the

baht per kwh rates and it was the Thai style to say you're being

charged "per unit" even though no one knows what the heck a "unit"

was.

 

So there you have it:

 

Electricity peaks at about 2.8 baht per kwh, or about 9 cents per kwh

 

Water is less than 10 baht per cubic meter, or less than $1 per CCF.

 

Both water and electricity are pretty cheap, comparatively speaking,

but expensive for low-income Thais of course.

 

Monthly service charges are about 100 baht per month for each.

 

At my job, I do highly complex rate design for water companies, large

and small, in addition to public policy and financial regulation. I

may consider working volunteer in the utilities and/or regulation

sector in Thailand when I'm retired.

 

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[devee8]

Two things that influence the cost is

1. How often you use the aircon and what setting you run it at

2. Time of the year you are going to use the AC as the hotter months ie. Feb, March, April and May are higher usage months due to it being hotter so the condensor will run longer ensure you have an inverter AC unit.