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About 5 years ago, I went to see my doctor suffering from stress and was diagnosed as having high blood pressure. 200/150 to be precise. Anyway, the pills I was put on quickly brought it under control which it has been ever since.

 

At the moment I take half of a dichlotride 50mg pill and half of a 50mg atenolol pill daily. These cause a side effect, which means I need to take Cialis (generic) when I go out on the prowl.

 

Pattaya International Hospital do free blood pressure checks at the Pattaya Ex-Pats Club meeting on Sunday mornings. Last Sunday, my blood presure was something like 115/73 with a pulse rate of 40. Before I retired, I bought a wrisr monitor from Boots and I checked my blood pressure with it before I left for the Ex-Pats Club. It gave a very similar reading. Also, about half an hour ago, the wrist monitor gave a reading of 115/74 with a pulse rate of 44.

 

Has anyone who has had high blood pressure ever been able to stop taking the pills? I plan on reducing my medication to 1/4 of a pill daily to see what effect that has.

 

Alan

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I had to take pils for a short time last year my BP was 150/99

 

At the same time I stopped taking salt and eating eggs and chese and took a Benicol drink every morning, also cut back on beer. I was only on a small dose but after three months I cut it down by half kept monitoring the BP then stopped taking pills all together.

 

Now my BP is about 130/85. probably I cought it early enough bot those things helped.

 

I reacon you could cut down the dose and keep monitering things and if all is ok gradually reduce the dose more and more.

 

My guess is that you also went through some life style changes so that will have helped.

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About 5 years ago, I went to see my doctor suffering from stress and was diagnosed as having high blood pressure. 200/150 to be precise. Anyway, the pills I was put on quickly brought it under control which it has been ever since.

 

At the moment I take half of a dichlotride 50mg pill and half of a 50mg atenolol pill daily. These cause a side effect, which means I need to take Cialis (generic) when I go out on the prowl.

 

Pattaya International Hospital do free blood pressure checks at the Pattaya Ex-Pats Club meeting on Sunday mornings. Last Sunday, my blood presure was something like 115/73 with a pulse rate of 40. Before I retired, I bought a wrisr monitor from Boots and I checked my blood pressure with it before I left for the Ex-Pats Club. It gave a very similar reading. Also, about half an hour ago, the wrist monitor gave a reading of 115/74 with a pulse rate of 44.

 

Has anyone who has had high blood pressure ever been able to stop taking the pills? I plan on reducing my medication to 1/4 of a pill daily to see what effect that has.

 

Alan

 

Actually, your diet, which is very critical, and exercise, a good supplement with essential trace minerals, reduction of stress, plays a big part. Doing cleanses also is essential. You pretty much have to do a radical departure from what you are currently doing. Before you start reducing your meds, I would consult a naturopathic doctor to guide you. That 200/150 is really scary.

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I had to take pils for a short time last year my BP was 150/99

 

At the same time I stopped taking salt and eating eggs and chese and took a Benicol drink every morning, also cut back on beer. I was only on a small dose but after three months I cut it down by half kept monitoring the BP then stopped taking pills all together.

 

Now my BP is about 130/85. probably I cought it early enough bot those things helped.

 

I reacon you could cut down the dose and keep monitering things and if all is ok gradually reduce the dose more and more.

 

My guess is that you also went through some life style changes so that will have helped.

 

The biggest lifestyle change I made was taking early retirement and coming to live in Pattaya. I also now try to swim for around an hour a day 4 or 5 times a week.

 

I've now cut some pills into 4 and will monitor my blood pressure on a regular basis. If it remains in the normal ramge after a few weeks, I'll try cutting the pills out altogether. If it starts edging up again, I'll jusr have to start taking the pills again.

 

It would help with the health insurance if I can safely claim that my blood pressure is normal without the need for medication, though I suspect that I would need to be off medication for 2 years or so first.

 

my own doctor said that too much salt was not good for me, but I very rarely added salt to my food in any case so dispensing with it wasn't a major problem.

 

200/150 was sky high, but it was surprising just how quickly the medication brought it down under control.

 

Alan

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Most Thai food is high in salt.

 

They use that nam plah (fish sauce) in a lot of food.

 

It is basically brewed anchovies and lots of salt.

 

I think!!

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Some blood pressure medication takes time to take affect.

 

This means it builds up in your system.

 

So, if you cut backon your medication, the effects may take a week or so to show up.

 

Don't take less medication one day and the very next figure that half is good enough.

 

The medication has a cummulative affect in your system.

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The biggest lifestyle change I made was taking early retirement and coming to live in Pattaya. I also now try to swim for around an hour a day 4 or 5 times a week.

 

I've now cut some pills into 4 and will monitor my blood pressure on a regular basis. If it remains in the normal ramge after a few weeks, I'll try cutting the pills out altogether. If it starts edging up again, I'll jusr have to start taking the pills again.

 

It would help with the health insurance if I can safely claim that my blood pressure is normal without the need for medication, though I suspect that I would need to be off medication for 2 years or so first.

 

my own doctor said that too much salt was not good for me, but I very rarely added salt to my food in any case so dispensing with it wasn't a major problem.

 

200/150 was sky high, but it was surprising just how quickly the medication brought it down under control.

 

Alan

 

Your mention of the lifestyle change and the excercise is a great improvement. You have to understand where an MD is coming from. They are not trained in diet and natural methods. They basically know how to operate and give you pills. You should, IMO, seek out natural methods to get that pressure under control and not rely on prescription drugs. Any meds in the long run will be detrimental to you as they have to pass thru your liver, which is your bodies filter.

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About 5 years ago, I went to see my doctor suffering from stress and was diagnosed as having high blood pressure. 200/150 to be precise. Anyway, the pills I was put on quickly brought it under control which it has been ever since.

 

At the moment I take half of a dichlotride 50mg pill and half of a 50mg atenolol pill daily. These cause a side effect, which means I need to take Cialis (generic) when I go out on the prowl.

 

Pattaya International Hospital do free blood pressure checks at the Pattaya Ex-Pats Club meeting on Sunday mornings. Last Sunday, my blood presure was something like 115/73 with a pulse rate of 40. Before I retired, I bought a wrisr monitor from Boots and I checked my blood pressure with it before I left for the Ex-Pats Club. It gave a very similar reading. Also, about half an hour ago, the wrist monitor gave a reading of 115/74 with a pulse rate of 44.

 

Has anyone who has had high blood pressure ever been able to stop taking the pills? I plan on reducing my medication to 1/4 of a pill daily to see what effect that has.

 

Alan

 

I am not a Medical doctor but I too take high blood pressure medicine (enalapril maleate) and I think that you have to take it the rest of your life, I have been taking it since 1992.

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Most Thai food is high in salt.

 

They use that nam plah (fish sauce) in a lot of food.

 

It is basically brewed anchovies and lots of salt.

 

I think!!

100,percent correct, The bottom line is dont smoke Dont be over weight and let the Boss take the stress, thats what the cunts being paid for, Laugh it off :Hello:

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I am not a Medical doctor but I too take high blood pressure medicine (enalapril maleate) and I think that you have to take it the rest of your life, I have been taking it since 1992.

 

Unless you make necessary changes

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.... You have to understand where an MD is coming from. They are not trained in diet and natural methods. They basically know how to operate and give you pills. You should, IMO, seek out natural methods to get that pressure under control and not rely on prescription drugs. Any meds in the long run will be detrimental to you as they have to pass thru your liver, which is your bodies filter.

 

I wonder what training and knowledge you have that is not available to MD's. Med school doesn't teach golf, either, but many doctors are pretty good at it. The point is, if accountants and carpenters can know the wonders of alternative medicine, why can't MD's? I think many of them do know about it and have highly informed opinions on the subject.

 

Do natural substances get filtered by the liver?

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I wonder what training and knowledge you have that is not available to MD's. Med school doesn't teach golf, either, but many doctors are pretty good at it. The point is, if accountants and carpenters can know the wonders of alternative medicine, why can't MD's? I think many of them do know about it and have highly informed opinions on the subject.

 

Do natural substances get filtered by the liver?

 

Your statement here is beyond naive, obviously you have not educated yourself, and my advice to you is keep seeing an MD and taking their advice!

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Your statement here is beyond naive, obviously you have not educated yourself, and my advice to you is keep seeing an MD and taking their advice!

 

Your response doesn't do much to educate me.

 

Maybe I just got tired of hearing about it from a friend who:

 

-Doesn't smoke, drinks in moderation

-Excersizes regularly and gets plenty of sleep

-Follows a low-fat diet

 

In short, he does exactly what doctors recommend. But he says doctors know nothing and credits his good health (same as mine) to all the supplement$ he consume$. :Busted:

 

But OK. Perhaps my chakras are just misaligned. I'll go get some aromatherapy and a colonic and maybe I'll see the light.

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Your response doesn't do much to educate me.

 

Maybe I just got tired of hearing about it from a friend who:

 

-Doesn't smoke, drinks in moderation

-Excersizes regularly and gets plenty of sleep

-Follows a low-fat diet

 

In short, he does exactly what doctors recommend. But he says doctors know nothing and credits his good health (same as mine) to all the supplement$ he consume$. :wacko:

 

But OK. Perhaps my chakras are just misaligned. I'll go get some aromatherapy and a colonic and maybe I'll see the light.

 

I do apologize if I replied to you in the manner that I did. I have a doctor I see regularly at the VA here. For me, the testing I get done etc. is necessary to let me know what's going on. An MD is necessary for the diagnosis. It's up to you, how you want to proceed from there. There is a lot of information out there and it's really a matter of sorting it out what's best for you. There is a lot of supplements and info that just isn't worth taking and doing. I get as much information as I can and sort it out, with a little help.

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Take it easy let the cunt who is paying you take the Action, Thats what life has fucken given me, Dont Freak out hang in be good Do good, What goes around comes around, comci comca

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Take it easy let the cunt who is paying you take the Action, Thats what life has fucken given me, Dont Freak out hang in be good Do good, What goes around comes around, comci comca

 

Que sera sera?

 

Yeah, now more than ever your healthcare is "up to you" in that you have to take charge as longa seems to say. There is so much bullshit being spread around by the pharma industry and their counterparts on the "natural" side. At one time, I had a great doctor but then I moved and have just encountered guys who are gatekeepers for the premium collection industry. I feel for the people who need to see them often.

 

Rant over. Back to topic?

 

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I started on meds (similar to yours) about 8 years ago. About 5 years ago, sick of taking them all, I started a diet and exercise program. Lost about 70 lbs (still overweight), but the doctor was reluctant to take me off them. Unfortunely, in the mean time I've put the weight back on........

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About 5 years ago, I went to see my doctor suffering from stress and was diagnosed as having high blood pressure. 200/150 to be precise. Anyway, the pills I was put on quickly brought it under control which it has been ever since.

 

At the moment I take half of a dichlotride 50mg pill and half of a 50mg atenolol pill daily. These cause a side effect, which means I need to take Cialis (generic) when I go out on the prowl.

 

Pattaya International Hospital do free blood pressure checks at the Pattaya Ex-Pats Club meeting on Sunday mornings. Last Sunday, my blood presure was something like 115/73 with a pulse rate of 40. Before I retired, I bought a wrisr monitor from Boots and I checked my blood pressure with it before I left for the Ex-Pats Club. It gave a very similar reading. Also, about half an hour ago, the wrist monitor gave a reading of 115/74 with a pulse rate of 44.

 

Has anyone who has had high blood pressure ever been able to stop taking the pills? I plan on reducing my medication to 1/4 of a pill daily to see what effect that has.

 

Alan

 

Hi Alan,

 

I'm a newbie but, I think I can give you a source of information to read up on.... then you can make up your own mind as to whether you want to try it. Go onto google.com (a search engine) and type in "the eight week cholesterol cure". I'll give you the short version here but, go read about the eight week cholesterol cure so you can verify the information I'm giving you from its source. There are many things that cause high blood pressure... some things you can influance and other things you can not. Example: diet, excercise, vitamin and nutritional supplements are things you can do to influance your blood pressure... heridity is something you can not influance.

 

In short, niacin 500 mg. a day (a "B" vitamin that dilates the blood vessels) along with 6 grams of "Oat Bran", in tablet form (which scrubbs the artery walls, removing the sticky plaque thats clogging up the blood vessels making the blood pressure go up because the heart has to pump harder to push blood through those clogged arteries and veins) could significantly reduce your blood pressure... and its all cheap and natural. I have friends who had high blood pressure problems with readings like 185/127 and in eight weeks they dropped their blood pressure to 128/76. Please don't take my word for it, go research the eight week cholesterol cure and see for yourself. All I can tell you is it worked to get my friend's blood pressure under control naturally. Good luck. If you have any questions... let me know and I'll try to provide some more resources for you. I'm really into natural remedies in place of dangerous drugs.

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although high blood pressure can often be remedied, and is more often than not greatly improved by lifestyle changes - there is also a heredity/genetic factor that you will be unable to change, and also other ailments can predispose you to high BP (eg Diabetes). Please bear this in mind before you stop taking medication.

 

Also, some of the medication mentioned is "dual purpose" and has other effects on the heart other than to just lower your blood pressure, so definitely ask your Dr before you stop taking them. If you are suffering from side effects of certain meds, here are hundreds of different meds to try - it's you Dr's duty to change them until you find something that suits you as an individual.

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