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I am looking at attending a training camp some time in July for the purpose of attaining a higher level of fitness

and hopefully lose 4-5 kg's,mid drift bulge, over a 2 week period.I do not intend to do any fight trining or fight,I am 58 yrs old with a back injury that prohibts me from doing this.I have a nephew who recently returned from a traning camp in Phuket called Phromthep which is located at the southern most tip near Rawai beach and also close to Nai Harn and Yanyi beach's.It offers accomadation food and training all under the one roof which suits me fine.

I have only travelled to Patts and BBK and I do really like the beach which I miss in Patts.

So I am using this trip to discover Phuket and the same time get fit.

 

I have a few questions that maybe some BM's might be able to help me with.

My nephew says the camp was good and well run but a little out of the way from all the action.

 

How long to travel to the city centre and by what means?

Are there any similar type camps closer in?

Does anyone know of this camp (Phromthep)and the area where it is located?

 

After my 2 weeks of training I am to hit Patts and have a bit of fun 555

Cheers Wombat69

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I'm looking at spending 3-6 months at this place, http://www.tigermuaythai.com, there's no pressure to fight and they cater for absolute beginners through to pro fighters. I spend a lot of time browsing www.muscletalk.co.uk and there's loads of guys on there who have trained at lots of different camps all over Thailand, but Tiger seems the most popular, you can train twice a day , as well as do the conditioning and weight training. The accomadation looks reasonabley priced as well though I think it's a little more expensive than some of the other camps.

If you're struggling to find other choices of camps then PM me and I'll send you all the links I have saved.

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If you're struggling to find other choices of camps then PM me and I'll send you all the links I have saved.

Would you mind posting here which camps you've found? I'm also interested in MT training in Thailand, mainly for weight loss/fitness and self-defense, not so much fighting competitively.

 

I've read good things about this place elsewhere, so I'm considering it:

 

http://www.chacritmuaythaischool.com/

 

Would like to see what others have found or recommend.

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http://www.superprosamui.com/

http://www.tigermuaythai.com

http://www.lamaimuaythaicamp.com

http://www.muaythaichinnarach.com/

http://www.rawaimuaythai.com

http://www.sinbi-muaythai.com/

 

For everyone of these I've seen more than one positive review on training websites, www.MuscleTalk.co.uk in particular. I like the look of TigerMT as they do Brazilian Jujitsu, MMA, and western style boxing training too. At 33 I'd rather become a more rounded fighter than trying to be something I'm not likely to ever be, though I'm not done with the idea of having a pro fight while I'm down there. They reckon they can get you in shape for your first fight in 3 months so long as you're not at deaths door and 10 stone over weight smoking 40 fags a day.

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I am looking at attending a training camp some time in July for the purpose of attaining a higher level of fitness

and hopefully lose 4-5 kg's,mid drift bulge, over a 2 week period.I do not intend to do any fight trining or fight,I am 58 yrs old with a back injury that prohibts me from doing this.I have a nephew who recently returned from a traning camp in Phuket called Phromthep which is located at the southern most tip near Rawai beach and also close to Nai Harn and Yanyi beach's.It offers accomadation food and training all under the one roof which suits me fine.

I have only travelled to Patts and BBK and I do really like the beach which I miss in Patts.

So I am using this trip to discover Phuket and the same time get fit.

 

I have a few questions that maybe some BM's might be able to help me with.

My nephew says the camp was good and well run but a little out of the way from all the action.

 

How long to travel to the city centre and by what means?

Are there any similar type camps closer in?

Does anyone know of this camp (Phromthep)and the area where it is located?

 

After my 2 weeks of training I am to hit Patts and have a bit of fun 555

Cheers Wombat69

 

 

I'm looking at spending 3-6 months at this place, http://www.tigermuaythai.com, there's no pressure to fight and they cater for absolute beginners through to pro fighters. I spend a lot of time browsing www.muscletalk.co.uk and there's loads of guys on there who have trained at lots of different camps all over Thailand, but Tiger seems the most popular, you can train twice a day , as well as do the conditioning and weight training. The accomadation looks reasonabley priced as well though I think it's a little more expensive than some of the other camps.

If you're struggling to find other choices of camps then PM me and I'll send you all the links I have saved.

 

 

Would you mind posting here which camps you've found? I'm also interested in MT training in Thailand, mainly for weight loss/fitness and self-defense, not so much fighting competitively.

 

I've read good things about this place elsewhere, so I'm considering it:

 

http://www.chacritmuaythaischool.com/

 

Would like to see what others have found or recommend.

 

I stayed at Tiger MT a few years ago. It's a pretty good camp if you just want to do some training and have a holiday at the same time. Its very popular with tourists so they have the training areas split up into beginners, intermediate and advanced and you will get plenty of 1-1 training as a newbie. They also have excellent modern facilities, probably the best in Thailand apart from Fairtex. They also have MMA classes and western boxing which is quite unusual. Ray Elbe is the MMA trainer, he's pretty good and they often have a guest BJJ black belt there doing seminars. The boxing trainer fought Manny Pacquiao many years ago too!

 

It's in Chalong, 5 mins drive from Chalong center itself, 10 mins to the beach and about 30 mins drive to Patong, where all the partying is. The camp can assist you to hire a motorbike if you want, or they have a discounted taxi service that can pick you up and take you where you need to go.

 

If you haven't ever trained MT before, or only have limited experience I would definitely recommend it. There's always a ton of people there so its easy to make friends and find stuff to do after training in the evenings. I stayed in the Baan Suan villas opposite the camp, had really nice rooms and a swimming pool.

 

For training alone you would get better at Sinbi MT. It has arguably the greatest MT fighter of this generation there, Saenchai Sor Kingstar, although I'm not sure if he teaches anyone himself and Sinbi was/is a world class MT/K-1 fighter. However if you don't have any MT experience and don't want to train hardcore this camp might not be the best option.

 

I have attached some photos of the Ban Suan villa I stayed in.

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Thanks Cheesey. Nice pics, looks very upmarket. I worked out it would cost something like GBP£650 a month for training, an air conditioned bungalow and 2 meals a day, sounds amazing value.

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Thanks for the info, guys. Dave, I don't need to lose 10 stone, but I could stand to lose 35 kilos. Sitting in front of a computer all day is killing me -- literally. If I don't lose the weight, I'm afraid I'm heading to an early grave, like my dad.

 

So I'm looking for a daily intensive workout and I like martial arts (aikido and various kung fu styles previously). I'd prefer separate accommodations, however, but I'll check out the camps listed here.

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Bob, 35kg is a lot and from what I've read the fitter you are the more you get out of your trip, so I would make a start right now with the cardio preparation, and sort your diet out. Do you know much about nutrition?, if not I can help you with cutting the junk out and what to replace it with an what kind of proportions.If you're 35kg over your ideal weight then I would imagine doing 3-4 cardio sessions a week would probably see you losing 3-4lbs a week right from the off.Can you join a gym right now? 4 months preparation training with a good diet could see you lose around half of what you want to shift before you even get to Thailand.

If you're feeling really motivated start a journal thread and post all your training sessions and weight/bodyfat% measurements, and I'll help you adjust things as you make progress.

 

You say you're looking for a daily intensive workout, but 2 is the norm I believe, and why not I guess, get your moneys worth and make the most of what they have.

I would prefer separate accomodation too, I think a shared room is 5000 BT and an air conditioned bungalow 12000 BT per month, notmuc difference if you're only there for 2 weeks.

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excellent thread and excellent informations guys!

 

if your goal is to loose weight! it is easy to loose that in the two weeks if your bodies motabalism is already running high! if your only doing 2 weeks training then it will take you a week or more just for your body to get used to recovering and performing at a higher level than normal.

 

it will also tke you a week or so to get used to the rediculas heat in thailand, if your training you really will be hurting after your first session even if your in shape.

 

Dont forget that there is Alistair Overeems Golden Glory gym which is the old scorpion Muay Thai gym on the hill to jontiem! soi 14 or summat. very easy to find.

 

 

you can go learn how to do them flying knees!

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Bob, 35kg is a lot and from what I've read the fitter you are the more you get out of your trip, so I would make a start right now with the cardio preparation, and sort your diet out. Do you know much about nutrition?, if not I can help you with cutting the junk out and what to replace it with an what kind of proportions.If you're 35kg over your ideal weight then I would imagine doing 3-4 cardio sessions a week would probably see you losing 3-4lbs a week right from the off.Can you join a gym right now? 4 months preparation training with a good diet could see you lose around half of what you want to shift before you even get to Thailand.

If you're feeling really motivated start a journal thread and post all your training sessions and weight/bodyfat% measurements, and I'll help you adjust things as you make progress.

 

You say you're looking for a daily intensive workout, but 2 is the norm I believe, and why not I guess, get your moneys worth and make the most of what they have.

I would prefer separate accomodation too, I think a shared room is 5000 BT and an air conditioned bungalow 12000 BT per month, notmuc difference if you're only there for 2 weeks.

 

To get the most out of a 2 weeks stay you definitely want to start doing some cardio before you go. Whilst there are 2 training sessions a day at most Gyms, unless you are experienced I wouldn't advise jumping straight into that. Do 1 session a day for 3 or 4 days and then start on the second, or you will burn out very quickly from heat/jetlag/exhaustion.

 

I stopped training MT 2 years ago due to multiple ligament tears in my knee. Once I stopped training I piled on the pounds. I went from 80 kg to 105 kg in 2 years. I decided this year I needed to get back in shape so I started western boxing again. I box 3 evenings a week and get on the cross trainer at lunchtimes when I'm at work. I have lost 18 kg in 11 weeks. It's not hard to lose weight, you don't even have to go on a crazy diet, just eat sensibly and exercise.

 

My advice to anyone wanting to lose weight by going to an MT gym in Thailand would be to spend 2 months in the gym at home just getting some basic cardio and flexibility so you can make the most of your time in Thailand. You may even want to join a MT gym back home too and get some basic training done!

 

One other thing I would advise is to stay away from MT Gyms near Pattaya unless you have a lot of willpower. I stayed at Fairtex Pattaya pre mongering days, and I saw loads of guys miss training because they were out late partying and mongering. There's no way I could stay and train there now :)

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Thanks Cheesey. Nice pics, looks very upmarket. I worked out it would cost something like GBP£650 a month for training, an air conditioned bungalow and 2 meals a day, sounds amazing value.

Yeah those villas were really nice, they have a massive range of accommodation to suit all budgets though, from super cheap shared rooms to 4* resort round the corner. I'm not sure how much the restaurant there has changed since I was last there but at the time the Thai food was very westernised. Luckily one of the trainers there stayed in London for 6 months and I took care of him, so when I went there he took me with him every day to eat at all the local places :)

 

There's not too much within easy walking distance though, you really need a bike or to make friends with other guys who have a bike!

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Thanks Cheesey. Nice pics, looks very upmarket. I worked out it would cost something like GBP£650 a month for training, an air conditioned bungalow and 2 meals a day, sounds amazing value.

 

 

Thanks for the info, guys. Dave, I don't need to lose 10 stone, but I could stand to lose 35 kilos. Sitting in front of a computer all day is killing me -- literally. If I don't lose the weight, I'm afraid I'm heading to an early grave, like my dad.

 

So I'm looking for a daily intensive workout and I like martial arts (aikido and various kung fu styles previously). I'd prefer separate accommodations, however, but I'll check out the camps listed here.

 

 

excellent thread and excellent informations guys!

 

if your goal is to loose weight! it is easy to loose that in the two weeks if your bodies motabalism is already running high! if your only doing 2 weeks training then it will take you a week or more just for your body to get used to recovering and performing at a higher level than normal.

 

it will also tke you a week or so to get used to the rediculas heat in thailand, if your training you really will be hurting after your first session even if your in shape.

 

Dont forget that there is Alistair Overeems Golden Glory gym which is the old scorpion muay thai gym on the hill to jontiem! soi 14 or summat. very easy to find.

 

 

you can go learn how to do them flying knees!

 

 

To get the most out of a 2 weeks stay you definitely want to start doing some cardio before you go. Whilst there are 2 training sessions a day at most gyms, unless you are experienced I wouldn't advise jumping straight into that. Do 1 session a day for 3 or 4 days and then start on the second, or you will burn out very quickly from heat/jetlag/exhaustion.

 

I stopped training MT 2 years ago due to multiple ligament tears in my knee. Once I stopped training I piled on the pounds. I went from 80 kg to 105 kg in 2 years. I decided this year I needed to get back in shape so I started western boxing again. I box 3 evenings a week and get on the cross trainer at lunchtimes when I'm at work. I have lost 18 kg in 11 weeks. It's not hard to lose weight, you don't even have to go on a crazy diet, just eat sensibly and exercise.

 

My advice to anyone wanting to lose weight by going to an MT gym in Thailand would be to spend 2 months in the gym at home just getting some basic cardio and flexibility so you can make the most of your time in Thailand. You may even want to join a MT gym back home too and get some basic training done!

 

One other thing I would advise is to stay away from MT gyms near Pattaya unless you have a lot of willpower. I stayed at Fairtex Pattaya pre mongering days, and I saw loads of guys miss training because they were out late partying and mongering. There's no way I could stay and train there now :)

Thanks for all the info guys,my aim was to be in Phuket in July,looks like that is not possible at this stage.

However I have been attending fittness classes 3 times a week and walking/jogging and doing some light excercises

at home since March and I have lost some weight but gained some muscle 555 and definatley a lot fita.

On top of this I have given up the fags and this is where the difference really comes in,especially on Cardio machines and jogging.

If you are a smoker then consider quiting before you attempt the training as I think you will get a lot more out of it.

I also limited my beer intake to 1 a week,but a glass or two of red each nite and really watch your diet.

It's all good so when I do go to Phuket I will hopefully be ready for it.

I have looked at Tiger camp only because of it's closeness to town.

Ideally if some one could recommend a camp in Patts I would consider that option as well.

Thanks heaps Wombat

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check out this travel guide mmatravelguide it has reviews of many Muay Thai camps through out Thailand

mmatravelguide.com

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check out this travel guide mmatravelguide it has reviews of many Muay Thai camps through out Thailand

mmatravelguide.com

Hi Ninjaboy28 Cheched out the site and it was helpfull.

Came up with Tiger camp in Chalong,Phuket as one of the best.

It looks a bit too commercialised for me so I am happy to stick with

Phromthep for the moment.

If things don't work out,I can always move along.

Cheers and Thanks

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Hi Ninjaboy28 Cheched out the site and it was helpfull.

Came up with Tiger camp in Chalong,Phuket as one of the best.

It looks a bit too commercialised for me so I am happy to stick with

Phromthep for the moment.

If things don't work out,I can always move along.

Cheers and Thanks

 

I also here great things about phromthep, and when I visited there for mmatravelguide they were spending alot of money in improving the facility and guest quarters -cant go wrong with that camp. -personally I'm a big fan of Phuket pattaya is def more my speed . thanks for the kind words about the book-Will

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I also here great things about phromthep, and when I visited there for mmatravelguide they were spending alot of money in improving the facility and guest quarters -cant go wrong with that camp. -personally I'm a big fan of phuket pattaya is def more my speed . thanks for the kind words about the book-Will

Recently a young nephew of mine (20 yrs old)stayed there for 2 months and he enjoyed Phromthep except it was known as the FAT CAMP 555

as there were, like me ,quite a few older people or folk who just wanna get fit/loose weight.

It was his 1st time to LOS and it took him a while to fully realise what was on offer,which led to his other gripe which was it's

location being too far away from Patong and the centre of town.However I have been told that there is some nite life in and around Phromthep by some other Bm's like Rawai beach,karon and Kata.Maybe you can expand further?

 

Thanks again Will

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In my opinion Muey Thai should be banned in the West and barred from all international sporting events until the Thais bring this martial art in line with the rest of the world and all instructors thoroughly impress on every student of Muey Thai that the techniques are to used only in the boxing gyms/rings or only in absolute self defense. Too many Thais are given the skills and then go out and kick the living shit out of some poor bastard just to show how much a tough guy they are.

 

It's also way overdue that every Thai who injures or kills another man by using Muey Thai techniques recieves a lengthy prison sentence, just as Karate & Tae Khow Do & boxers back in our countries are sentenced as their fists/feet are classified as lethal weapons.

 

Just look at all the eye-witness accounts on this forum alone of Thais using Muey Thai to knock tourists unconscious in WS brawls?

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In my opinion Muey Thai should be banned in the West and barred from all international sporting events until the Thais bring this martial art in line with the rest of the world and all instructors thoroughly impress on every student of Muey Thai that the techniques are to used only in the boxing gyms/rings or only in absolute self defense. Too many Thais are given the skills and then go out and kick the living shit out of some poor bastard just to show how much a tough guy they are.

 

It's also way overdue that every Thai who injures or kills another man by using Muey Thai techniques recieves a lengthy prison sentence, just as Karate & Tae Khow Do & boxers back in our countries are sentenced as their fists/feet are classified as lethal weapons.

 

Just look at all the eye-witness accounts on this forum alone of Thais using Muey Thai to knock tourists unconscious in WS brawls?

Hi There Pubstud

I couldn't agree with you more,just to enlighten you though,I am not interested in learning the kick boxing art.

I am going to one of these camp's to do a fitness course,loose weight and detox.

Perhaps you could start another thread or do a poll thingo.

Thanks for your imput.

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Cheers Wombat 69, from what I've seen of Muey Thai training it certainly is an excellent way to total fitness, so best of luck with the training.

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Does anyone know of any similar places in Chiang mai?

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Does anyone know of any similar places in Chiang mai?

Lanna Muay Thai

chai yai

lex boxing

Muay Thai siam

If u buy my papaerback E book or iphone app there are directions in english and thai scipt to find them along with facilty reviews-good training ,Will

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just as Karate & Tae Khow Do & boxers back in our countries are sentenced as their fists/feet are classified as lethal weapons.

this is a myth and untrue

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The best site for Gyms is http://www.muaythailand.com/. Best is Tiger, even then if you dont like it there are 4 Gyms on that same street as Tiger, being Dragon, Suwit, and Phuket Top Team (PTT). So you have nothing too loose, except the kilos (hopefully more fat than muscle). OP when you heading to Phuket now?

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In my opinion Muey Thai should be banned in the West and barred from all international sporting events until the Thais bring this martial art in line with the rest of the world and all instructors thoroughly impress on every student of Muey Thai that the techniques are to used only in the boxing gyms/rings or only in absolute self defense. Too many Thais are given the skills and then go out and kick the living shit out of some poor bastard just to show how much a tough guy they are.

 

It's also way overdue that every Thai who injures or kills another man by using Muey Thai techniques recieves a lengthy prison sentence, just as Karate & Tae Khow Do & boxers back in our countries are sentenced as their fists/feet are classified as lethal weapons.

 

Just look at all the eye-witness accounts on this forum alone of Thais using Muey Thai to knock tourists unconscious in WS brawls?

 

Yea and while we're at it lets ban solid food because people could choke on it!! And automotive transport because some people are to dumb to look before they cross the road!! And kitchen utensils I mean kitchen knives have been used to stab people before lets ban them!!

Banning sports won't make it any safer as there will still be people out there capable and willing to give you a good kicking if you act like an ass hole, simple solution behave your self use common curtesy and respect other peoples views and you won't have to worry about the big scary Thai men giving you a pasting.

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