How to contract AIDs

[1981bob]

ANSWERS TO POLL:

 

Question 1:

Option 4. "1 in 2,000"

 

Question 2:

Option 5. "1 in 20,000"

 

Question 3:

Option 4. "If you have sores on your dick"

 

I spent a lot of time trying to track down the actual rate of HIV transmission rates.

Very frustrating trying to get information on AIDS. And I'm not very happy with the NGOs or governments providing information on it. They seem more intend on spreading the message on how terrifyingly dangerous AIDS is, rather than giving the actual risks & how best to not get it.

 

Anyway this is what I found:

http://depts.washington.edu/hivaids/post/case5/fig1d.html

 

Turns out the AIDS sexual transmission rate is very low. Bad news is that condoms aren't nearly as effective as I thought they were.

 

The biggest factor determining transmission rates was presence of other STDs - not condom usage.

Condom use at the individual level only cut's the risk of transmission by 50-60%

 

Condom usage at the population level is much more important, as it works indirectly by dramatically reduces the prevalence of other STDs in the population.

 

Might be worth while giving the freelancers a miss, because fucking them with a condom isn't a sliver bullet.

 

Studies investigating factors which determine of sexual HIV transmission rates:

 

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/148/1/88.long

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1881672/?tool=pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11773877

Edited March 29, 2011 by 1981bob

[feelus]

How does condom usage level only cut it by 50%? are you talking about if the condom breaks or has holes in it?

[unlucky1]

Ridiculous poll, the one in 2000 ratio is based on studies of heterosexual couples with no diseases and generally where the infected partner has been living with the virus for some time.

 

The odds change dramatically if the girl is recently infected and has another sexual infection, which many of them do.

 

And if you get HIV from one encounter you don't look back on these figures with much comfort

[1981bob]

 

and has another sexual infection, which many of them do.

 

 

Which was exactly the point I was making: it might make sense to keep away from freelancers. I'm not saying don't use a condom, I'm saying in real life condoms don't seem to ofter as much protection as we think.

 

 

The odds change dramatically if the girl is recently infected.

 

 

You got a link to a study that shows that?

 

 

And if you get HIV from one encounter you don't look back on these figures with much comfort

 

 

The figures are what they are, who's trying to give comfort? Just trying to understand where the risks lay & people attitudes.

Edited April 1, 2011 by 1981bob

[1981bob]

Ridiculous poll, the one in 2000 ratio is based on studies of heterosexual couples with no diseases and generally where the infected partner has been living with the virus for some time.

 

I linked to U.S. Department of Health estimates. Doesn't specify anything about couples or previous diseases or years of infection.

[bungee]

Which was exactly the point I was making: it might make sense to keep away from freelancers.

 

Yep, keep well away from freelancers as it's well known that all agogo girls all get regular HIV tests, not. ANyone who thinks agogo girls are better tested than freelancers are deluding themselves. The only place to my knowledge that provides transparent STD testing is DD.

 

You got a link to a study that shows that?

 

This chart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hiv-timecourse.png from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV shows virus levels with time (red line)

 

Virus levels peak 3-12 weeks after infection.

Edited April 1, 2011 by bungee

[Buddy Edgewood]

I think the bigger question, that nobody can honestly or accurately answer, is how many prostitutes in Bangkok and Pattaya are infected with HIV or have AIDS? What's the ratio? 1 in 100, 1 in 1000, 1 in 10,000 or is it all bullshit and only 1 in 100,000 are infected?

 

The closest thing i could find is from the UN:

 

http://www.unaids.org/globalreport/Global_report.htm

 

According to their report from 2010, the spread of HIV/AIDS in Thailand is actually down. Mostly due to increased condom use. Yay!

 

 

Here's a non-official website that's an interesting read...

 

http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/2009/06/16/aidshiv-thailand/

 

 

If you're worried about getting infected with HIV: don't patronize prostitutes anywhere. Don't shag strange women you met at a local pub. Insist that the chick you've been dating for awhile, but haven't shagged with yet, show her latest HIV screening results (and you should have yours handy as well).

 

Or to save yourself the money and troubles... just jack off - but be sure to where a condom and gloves, just in case you picked up the HIV virus from that public toilet you just used - they say you can't get it that way, but you never know!