plane crash dubai

[FIGO_0710]

sky news u.k reports plane crash in dubai,multiple fires on highway any news guys

[FIGO_0710]

sky news u.k reports plane crash in dubai,multiple fires on highway any news guys

update..al jeezera says its a cargo plane

[kansuwan]

sky news u.k reports plane crash in dubai,multiple fires on highway any news guys

 

US Cargo plane; all crew killed.

[alibellocci]

aparantley it was a cargo plane crashed on a busy highway according to euronews.

[Highlander]

News Link

 

Yeah at least it was a cargo plane, poor buggers

[jcp7620]

Wow it only takes two people to fly a 747? I always thought that it would be more, too bad but it could have been a lot worse if it had been a passenger plane.

[gogo dog]

Wow it only takes two people to fly a 747? I always thought that it would be more, too bad but it could have been a lot worse if it had been a passenger plane.

 

It only takes one pilot to fly any aircraft, if one of the pilots becomes incapacitated the other pilot should have no trouble landing the plane safely.

[El Cata]

It only takes one pilot to fly any aircraft, if one of the pilots becomes incapacitated the other pilot should have no trouble landing the plane safely.

Actually, it takes none. Computers fly aircraft now; the pilot is only there to reassure the passengers. Industry insiders predict that in the future planes will have one pilot & a dog. The pilot's job will be to feed the dog & the dog's job will be to bite the pilot if he touches anything.

 

Peace.

[gogo dog]

Actually, it takes none. Computers fly aircraft now; the pilot is only there to reassure the passengers.

 

So if both pilots become incapacitated the plane will safely land itself?

[LaaMok]

So if both pilots become incapacitated the plane will safely land itself?

 

Yes, they only need pilots for emergency and because people are too afraid to get in a plane without one.

 

However, I have been told that pilots still like to land the planes for a bit of fun.

[Thaihot]

So was this an American Cargo Boeing 747 plane that crashed in the middle east ?????

[FIGO_0710]

U P S parcel company carrying toys apparently...rip

[tlsdk]

Crash: UPS B744 at Dubai on Sep 3rd 2010, fire in cockpit

By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Sep 3rd 2010 16:56Z, last updated Saturday, Sep 4th 2010 11:32Z

 

The Aviation Herald

 

 

A UPS Boeing 747-400 freighter, registration N571UP performing flight 5X-6 from Dubai (United Arab Emirates) to Cologne (Germany) with 2 crew, was returning to Dubai after declaring emergency, when the airplane crashed onto a free space west of Dubai Silicon Oasis and Al-Ain Highway (E66) about half way between Emirates Road (E311) and Outer Bypass Road (E611) at about 19:45L (15:45Z). Both crew perished in the crash.

 

UPS confirmed their Boeing 747-400 performing flight 5X-6 from Dubai to Cologne with 2 crew crashed on takeoff. They have no word on the fate of their crew.

 

An airport official said, the crew reported technical problems while on approach to Dubai.

 

An United Arab Emirates official said, the crew reported fire on board while on approach to Dubai. The airplane, that had taken off at 18:40L (14:40Z) was being vectored towards a military compound.

 

United Arab Emirates General Aviation Civil Authority said, that the crew had reported smoke and fire in the cockpit and was returning to Dubai International Airport. The airplane failed to land however and disappeared from radar screens shortly thereafter. The bodies of both pilots have been recovered.

 

The NTSB reported on Sep 4th, that UPS Flight 6, a Boeing 747-400 freighter registration N571UP, crashed while attempting to land at Dubai International Airport, from where the airplane had departed about 45 minutes earlier. The crew had declared an emergency and requested an immediate return to Dubai. The two crew were fatally injured, the NTSB does not know whether there have been fatalities on the ground. The NTSB have assigned an Accredited Representative as state of operator, state of aircraft design and manufacture and state of engine design and manufacture. The investigation is led by the United Arab Emirates Civil Aviation Authority.

 

Residents of Dubai Silicon Oasis said, the airplane crashed right in front of their apartment blocks.

 

Aviation sources in Dubai report, that the crew declared emergency reporting a fire in the cockpit shortly after takeoff and attempted to return to the airport's Runway 30L dumping fuel. The airplane was seen flying very low at a shallow descent until impact, where the airplane erupted in a large fire ball. Several buildings, apparently all of them under construction, have been set on fire by the crash.

 

Pilots on frequency of Bahrain Center reported, that the airplane had been enroute overhead the Arabian Gulf about 120nm westnorthwest of Dubai when the crew performed an emergency descent and reported a fire in the cockpit. Later they reported they were unable to read their instruments and were unable to change frequency asking for frequent updates on their altitude and speed from ATC. They were vectored for a straight in approach to Dubai's Runway 12L. Being too high and too fast for landing they were offered to divert to Sharjah or join a right hand downwind for another visual approach to Runway 12L. The airplane impacted ground about 20 minutes after declaring emergency

 

http://avherald.com/h?article=4307772e&opt=4096

[gogo dog]

Yes, they only need pilots for emergency and because people are too afraid to get in a plane without one.

 

However, I have been told that pilots still like to land the planes for a bit of fun.

 

The plane needs someone to program the autopilot, liaise with air traffic control, tune in the radios etc etc.

 

An autoland is only possible if the Runway and aircraft have accurate & expensive ILS equipment and the crew are trained & qualified to use it. Often these requirements will not be met so the pilots will land the aircraft manually. The pilots do not land the aircraft for a bit of fun, they do it to keep in practice, autoland is generally used only when the visibility is too poor for the pilots to land the aircraft.

[jcp7620]

I always thought that you had to have flight engineers and navigators and people like that, obviously cabin crew would not be required on a cargo plane. Guess that they have all been replaced with computers and the like.

[gogo dog]

I always thought that you had to have flight engineers and navigators and people like that, obviously cabin crew would not be required on a cargo plane. Guess that they have all been replaced with computers and the like.

 

Older aircraft (eg Boeing 747-200) have 3 crew, two pilots and a flight engineer. Newer aircraft are more automated and require only two pilots. Only much older aircraft had navigators and radio operators.

[LaaMok]

The plane needs someone to program the autopilot, liaise with air traffic control, tune in the radios etc etc.

 

An autoland is only possible if the runway and aircraft have accurate & expensive ILS equipment and the crew are trained & qualified to use it. Often these requirements will not be met so the pilots will land the aircraft manually. The pilots do not land the aircraft for a bit of fun, they do it to keep in practice, autoland is generally used only when the visibility is too poor for the pilots to land the aircraft.

 

I just done some research, it seems that the only problem is the taxiing on the Runway.

 

You dont need a pilot to tune into the radios, if there is no pilot!

 

You dont need to liase with air traffic control as all the major planes are linked together in the TCAS system

 

"All airliners and most cargo operations are linked into a computerized, co-operative network called the Traffic Alert and Collision Avoidance System (TCAS). For UAV air traffic to operate efficiently and safely, they will have to be part of the system as well."

 

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Someday-you-ll-fly-without-by-Terrence-Aym-100703-93.html

 

However, they do say that there may be some private planes that are not linked into the system.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_Management_System

[Thaihot]

Any claims or links to Binladen or Alcidda ??????

[FIGO_0710]

well the computer that landed my last flight into bkk in june..wants a good kick up the chuffin modem...it gave the plane a rite feckin "bunny hop" on touchdown, even the fit stewardess sat opposite lifted one of her arse cheeks of the chair to let a sly one out....

[gogo dog]

I just done some research, it seems that the only problem is the taxiing on the runway.

 

You dont need a pilot to tune into the radios, if there is no pilot!

 

You dont need to liase with air traffic control as all the major planes are linked together in the TCAS system

 

"All airliners and most cargo operations are linked into a computerized, co-operative network called the Traffic Alert and Collision Avoidance System (TCAS). For UAV air traffic to operate efficiently and safely, they will have to be part of the system as well."

 

http://www.opednews....-100703-93.html

 

However, they do say that there may be some private planes that are not linked into the system.

 

http://en.wikipedia....nagement_System

 

The technology is available to fly without a pilot eg Global Hawk. Modern aircraft do not have that technology on-board. If both pilots become incapacitated the plane will not safely land itself.

[tlsdk]

Auto-Pilot cannot do a take off.

Once the gear and flaps are up, and out of the terminal area, pilots like to engage the AP. It is coupled to the INS (Inertial Navigation System) or GPS.

During Cruise the aircraft is almost always on AP, It does require constant monitoring to make sure you are on course.

Descent into the terminal area is a pilot option,

Most pilots like to fly the approach manually in good visibility.

In limited visibility they will let AP fly down to decision height and then disengage.

If flying a CAT III ILS approach, which is very rarely done, landing in zero/zero weather, the AP will stay engaged and plane will autoland.

Pilot will have hands on the stick following the plane on glide-slope.

It will land hard because of no flare just before touchdown.

So the aircraft is on AP close to 75% of the time in flight.

Source(s):

Retired Instructor Flight Engineer

 

 

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081219200834AABP70V

[JD1]

Very unfortunate incident, I work for the the company I'm based in Australia but the two crew are USA citizens aged 48 and 38.

The aircraft was a 747-400 and only 3 years old but I guess when you climb into an aluminium shell and flight it around the globe at several hundred kilometres an hour there will always be an element of risk involved.

 

My heart go's out to the family and friends of the departed RIP

JD

[thalenoi]

Yes, they only need pilots for emergency and because people are too afraid to get in a plane without one.

 

However, I have been told that pilots still like to land the planes for a bit of fun.

 

Seems you guys have never flown in the cockpit

 

I worked 10 years for a cargo airline and on many occasions joined the crew in the cockpit.

Same type of plane that crashed, B747/400F.

And yes, there is a job to do.

And yes, in difficult situations it's their job to save the plane and the passengers...

 

Remember the Northwest Airlines plane en route to Mineapolis where the pilots simply forgot to land the plane, they got fired.

 

see http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/17/us/17pilot.html