Fiance or Spouse Visa for UK

[bigaallaann]

Why bring a GF on Fiance visa?

The Fiance visa costs the same as a Spousal visa,similar amount of documents etc in support of the application,plus questions regards plans of the proposed marriage at an interview regards arrangements etc.Why stress yourself out with more documentation such as deposits of the reception etc? Then pay the same again to the UK government for your GF to change her status as temporary leave to remain for 2years.Why pay £585 twice?

Why bring a GF that you have to marry within 6 months of arrival in the UK?

Cannot undertake employment till changed to temporary residence?

Down side also is the fact that you would have to show more money in your bank account and savings account to show you can support her for the 6 month period as she cannot work.

Why would your GF agree to marry in the UK and not in LOS where her family is?

Why would you want to give money to your GF to send home before she can work legally in the UK?

Who suggests this kind of idea or why do you think its a good idea?

If you really love each other why not marry in LOS as cheaper?

The only thing I can think of is that it may be because of a visitor visa being harder to obtain for a bar girl GF or bring the GF to try out the relationship before marrying? Then if don`t like send her back to LOS before the visa expires and then apply for another GF at a later date.

 

Spouse Visa.If you marry your GF in LOS at least she can enter the UK as a temporary resident for 2 years and can take paid employment immediatley.

You only pay once for this type of entry clearance at the embassy.

Wife would be happy as can send money home.

Would not need so much savings either in the bank to bring your wife as ECO would take into consideration that your wife can work to support herself and household budget.

 

Bonus of both of either is that just before temporary leave to remain expires you can ship them back to LOS Trade in for another model with less mileage may be?

Saves money also as you don`t have to pay for the wife or fiances permanent leave to remain in the UK..can use for airfare for LOS.

[slw]

Marridge in los has no meaning in england

[bigaallaann]

Marridge in los has no meaning in england

What do you mean by your comment that marriage in LOS has no meaning?

I would have expected this to be a Special Occasion in both the mans and womans life as only marry once in life usually?

Do you mean that in LOS that marriage is not held highly between a foreigner and a Thai in general?

[redfred]

Marridge in los has no meaning in england

marriage in thailand means you are legally married in uk if you regester it and have the marriage cert translated,

although i am irish and reside in ireland the rules cannot be that much different to uk.

i did not do the village wedding but i you did and regestered this she would be leagally wed ,you can regester a wedding at the local amphur but i believe it is quicker done in bkk.hope this helps fred..

[my_name_mark_u_like_me]

Marridge in los has no meaning in england

this is incorrect! if you marry in bkk and sign all the proper documents and get them translated then you are legally married in thailand and the u.k.

[som nam na]

Unmarried partner visa is best if you meet the criteria .... no need to get married

 

Partners of British citizens and people settled in the UK

 

If you are in a relationship with a person who is settled here, or is applying to settle here, you can apply for permission to enter or remain in the UK with a view to settlement as their:

 

■husband, wife or civil partner;

■fiance(e) or proposed civil partner; or

■unmarried/same-sex partner.

 

If your application as a husband, wife, civil partner or unmarried/same-sex partner is successful, we will grant you permission to come and live here for 27 months, or to remain here for another 2 years if you are already in the UK when you apply. Shortly before the end of this period, you will be able to apply for permission to settle permanently (known as 'indefinite leave to remain') in the UK as their partner.

 

If your application as a fiance(e) or proposed civil partner is successful, we will grant you permission to enter and live here for six months whle you get married or register your civil partnership. You can then apply to switch into the category of husband, wife or civil partner.

 

If you are a British citizen or settled in the UK and your partner has permission to enter or remain in one of the above categories, you must tell us if your relationship breaks down permanently before they have been given permission to settle here.

 

We will not give you permission to enter or remain in the UK in any of these categories if you or your husband, wife or partner will be aged under 21 on the date when you would arrive in the UK or the date when your permission to enter or remain would be given.

 

If you are currently outside the UK

 

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/partnersandfamilies/partners/unmarriedsamesexpartners/

 

If you are subject to immigration control and you are the unmarried/same-sex partner of a British citizen or person who is settled here, you can apply for permission to come to the UK in this category. The relationship may be a heterosexual or same-sex relationship, but you must not be related by blood.

 

Your settled partner must be:

 

■currently living and settled in the UK; or

■returning to the UK with you to live here permanently.

 

You must be able to show that:

 

■any previous marriage or civil partnership that either of you was in has permanently broken down;

■you have both been living together as if you were married or in a civil partnership for at least two years;

■you both plan to live together permanently;

■you both have enough money to support and adequately accommodate yourselves and any dependants without help from public funds; and

■you are both aged 21 or over.

 

To find out how to apply, see the Applying from outside the UK page.

 

If your application is successful, we will give you permission to live and work here for 27 months. This is called your probationary period. At the end of the 27 months, you may be able to apply for permission to settle permanently in the UK (known as 'indefinite leave to remain') as the settled person's unmarried/same-sex partner.

 

We may be able to give you permission to live permanently in the UK as soon as you arrive, if:

 

■you and your partner have been living together for at least four years as if you were married or in a civil partnership;

■you have spent those four years living together outside the UK;

■you are both coming to the UK to settle here together; and

■you have sufficient knowledge of the English language and life in the UK. (You do not need to meet this last requirement if you are aged 65 or over.)

 

If you want to get married or register a civil partnership and switch into the category of husband, wife or civil partner during your probationary period, you should see our Marriage and civil partnership pages and our guidance for Husbands, wives and civil partners.

Edited January 24, 2010 by som nam na

[Thai Visa Express]

What a ridiculous statement are you referring to the Thai village ceremony ?

 

That is not legal however the Amphur ceremony is totally recognised in the United Kingdom as legal and binding !

 

If any applicant decides to either marry in Thailand or the UK that is the choice of the client everyone is different it is more expensive as in terms of visa fees however it is up to the individual.

[slw]

my coment was regarding work Nia of which this does not entitle you to one

[Thai Visa Express]

my coment was regarding work Nia of which this does not entitle you to one

 

 

English please ??

 

Explain are you referring to marriage ?

 

Nia ???

[Thai Visa Express]

Unmarried partner visa is best if you meet the criteria .... no need to get married

 

Partners of British citizens and people settled in the UK

 

If you are in a relationship with a person who is settled here, or is applying to settle here, you can apply for permission to enter or remain in the UK with a view to settlement as their:

 

■husband, wife or civil partner;

■fiance(e) or proposed civil partner; or

■unmarried/same-sex partner.

 

If your application as a husband, wife, civil partner or unmarried/same-sex partner is successful, we will grant you permission to come and live here for 27 months, or to remain here for another 2 years if you are already in the UK when you apply. Shortly before the end of this period, you will be able to apply for permission to settle permanently (known as 'indefinite leave to remain') in the UK as their partner.

 

If your application as a fiance(e) or proposed civil partner is successful, we will grant you permission to enter and live here for six months whle you get married or register your civil partnership. You can then apply to switch into the category of husband, wife or civil partner.

 

If you are a British citizen or settled in the UK and your partner has permission to enter or remain in one of the above categories, you must tell us if your relationship breaks down permanently before they have been given permission to settle here.

 

We will not give you permission to enter or remain in the UK in any of these categories if you or your husband, wife or partner will be aged under 21 on the date when you would arrive in the UK or the date when your permission to enter or remain would be given.

 

If you are currently outside the UK

 

http://www.ukba.home...amesexpartners/

 

If you are subject to immigration control and you are the unmarried/same-sex partner of a British citizen or person who is settled here, you can apply for permission to come to the UK in this category. The relationship may be a heterosexual or same-sex relationship, but you must not be related by blood.

 

Your settled partner must be:

 

■currently living and settled in the UK; or

■returning to the UK with you to live here permanently.

 

You must be able to show that:

 

■any previous marriage or civil partnership that either of you was in has permanently broken down;

■you have both been living together as if you were married or in a civil partnership for at least two years;

■you both plan to live together permanently;

■you both have enough money to support and adequately accommodate yourselves and any dependants without help from public funds; and

■you are both aged 21 or over.

 

To find out how to apply, see the Applying from outside the UK page.

 

If your application is successful, we will give you permission to live and work here for 27 months. This is called your probationary period. At the end of the 27 months, you may be able to apply for permission to settle permanently in the UK (known as 'indefinite leave to remain') as the settled person's unmarried/same-sex partner.

 

We may be able to give you permission to live permanently in the UK as soon as you arrive, if:

 

■you and your partner have been living together for at least four years as if you were married or in a civil partnership;

■you have spent those four years living together outside the UK;

■you are both coming to the UK to settle here together; and

■you have sufficient knowledge of the English language and life in the UK. (You do not need to meet this last requirement if you are aged 65 or over.)

 

If you want to get married or register a civil partnership and switch into the category of husband, wife or civil partner during your probationary period, you should see our Marriage and civil partnership pages and our guidance for Husbands, wives and civil partners.

 

 

You are missing something here and it should be pointed out the KOL requirement ?

 

It is in the post which has been copied and pasted from the UK/BA website so we must credit them with the information provided.

 

All applicants must pass this to qualify yet you cannot take the test in Thailand therefore the applicant would need to enter the UK on a Tourist visa first sit the test and return home ?

 

All applicants should be made aware of this so not quite as easy or straight forward as it looks ?

 

Regards Paul

[som nam na]

You are missing something here and it should be pointed out the KOL requirement ?

 

It is in the post which has been copied and pasted from the UK/BA website so we must credit them with the information provided.

 

All applicants must pass this to qualify yet you cannot take the test in Thailand therefore the applicant would need to enter the UK on a Tourist visa first sit the test and return home ?

 

All applicants should be made aware of this so not quite as easy or straight forward as it looks ?

 

Regards Paul

 

Hi Paul, not sure what KOL is but if it is the knowledge of english test then that can be sat anytime in the 2 year qualifying period. My partner entered on an unmarried partner sat the test in the two year period and she also qualified for the indefinte leave to remain.

Edited January 25, 2010 by som nam na

[Thai Visa Express]

You are talking in regards to entering the UK and gaining a settlement/ UN married partner visa under the 4 year cohabiting rule ?

 

With the endorsement that you can pass the KOL at anytime and gain ILR/ILE in the UK ?

 

Which are basically the same .

 

The same example would be a couple have lived together for 4 years or more and they marry in Thailand and apply for settlement in the UK.

 

Technically she should be entitled to ILR immediately however she cannot satisfy the KOL/ESOL requirement so she would then only be issued with a 2 year settlement visa.

 

But the UK/BA would allow her to satisfy the requirement upon entry and take the test and apply immediately for ILR without having to satisfy the 2 year probationary period .

 

Just another point having gained ILR/ILE this can be taken away from you should you leave the country for 2 years or more.

 

Thanks for clarifying that.

Edited January 25, 2010 by Thai Visa Express