Any idea?

[Scottish_Tyrant]

Ok so you submit your fiancee visa to the embassy, you sit and wait, but what happens if you are granted this?

 

She obviously gets the passport sent back to her via snail mail with a shiny new visa stuck in it?

 

But when does the visa start? and when can see actually leave Thailand?

 

The local council here are asking for proof she can marry from Thailand (i.e. she is free to marry) I thought a visa would suffice as the embassy is hardly likely to grant it if she is unable to marry?

 

So you get her to the UK, how long do you have to get married?

 

I may know my way around LOS but this is all new to me. Can't help but feel I am sat waiting when I should or could be doing something else meantime?

[Khunsingha]

Ok so you submit your fiancee visa to the embassy, you sit and wait, but what happens if you are granted this?

 

She obviously gets the passport sent back to her via snail mail with a shiny new visa stuck in it?

 

But when does the visa start? and when can see actually leave Thailand?

 

The local council here are asking for proof she can marry from Thailand (i.e. she is free to marry) I thought a visa would suffice as the embassy is hardly likely to grant it if she is unable to marry?

 

So you get her to the UK, how long do you have to get married?

 

I may know my way around LOS but this is all new to me. Can't help but feel I am sat waiting when I should or could be doing something else meantime?

 

 

I can't believe you asking this. When does the visa start? Huh? The visa starts when it's stamped in the passport. That means when you

have the visa in the passport you are free to leave the country. It's just that the visa stamp says UNTIL the visa is valid. The visa says

nothing about when you can leave the country. You have the visa - you can go.

 

'I thought a visa would suffice as the embassy is hardly likely to grant it if she is unable to marry'

 

Huh? What does this mean? You mean Thais that are already married will not get a visa and cannot leave Thailand?

The embassy is NOT interested to find out if somebody is married already. That's only the case if they want to find out

if a person is willing to return to Thailand to grant the visa and, to be honest, to be already married for the authority IS A

GOOD reason to return to Thailand and so they grant a visa a lot easier.

 

Come on, tell me you're not that naive! Of course the local council will ask a foreigner to produce a certificate from the embassy or a consulate

that affirms that she's not married already. But that has nothing to do with the visa stamp in her passport. To get a marriage

certificate from the embassy is (of course) a whole different story.

 

To answer your last question (and I presume you can answer it yourself) when the visa has expired your girlfriend has to leave

the UK and go back to her country or you marry her before the visa expires. But I think even a marriage doesn't grant her the right

to stay permanently when she not from a EU-country. But to be 100% sure about that you better ask someone from the local council.

Edited November 25, 2009 by Khunsingha

[furryman]

Ok so you submit your fiancee visa to the embassy, you sit and wait, but what happens if you are granted this?

 

She obviously gets the passport sent back to her via snail mail with a shiny new visa stuck in it?

 

But when does the visa start? and when can see actually leave Thailand?

 

The local council here are asking for proof she can marry from Thailand (i.e. she is free to marry) I thought a visa would suffice as the embassy is hardly likely to grant it if she is unable to marry?

 

So you get her to the UK, how long do you have to get married?

 

I may know my way around LOS but this is all new to me. Can't help but feel I am sat waiting when I should or could be doing something else meantime?

 

These are all valid questions, no need to jump on ST's case here.

 

I would guess the letter to show that she is free to marry would come from the Thai consulate in the UK, Like the one we would need to get from our consulate in Thailand if we were to marry there.

 

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/infs/inf4husbandswivespartners

 

Good luck dude!

 

HAHA looks like you folks can bring your LBs back too, unlike the US

 

Can I join my unmarried or same-sex partner in the UK?

You can apply to join your unmarried or same-sex partner in the UK, as long as:

 

* they currently live and are settled in the UK, or they are coming to live permanently in the UK, and

* you and your sponsor are both aged 21 and over.

Edited November 25, 2009 by furryman

[Scumbag]

I would get her to get a certificate stating that she was not married before she left Thailand and get ti translated into English.

[Scottish_Tyrant]

I can't believe you asking this. When does the visa start? Huh? The visa starts when it's stamped in the passport. That means when you

have the visa in the passport you are free to leave the country. It's just that the visa stamp says UNTIL the visa is valid. The visa says

nothing about when you can leave the country. You have the visa - you can go.

 

'I thought a visa would suffice as the embassy is hardly likely to grant it if she is unable to marry'

 

Huh? What does this mean? You mean Thais that are already married will not get a visa and cannot leave Thailand?

The embassy is NOT interested to find out if somebody is married already. That's only the case if they want to find out

if a person is willing to return to Thailand to grant the visa and, to be honest, to be already married for the authority IS A

GOOD reason to return to Thailand and so they grant a visa a lot easier.

 

Come on, tell me you're not that naive! Of course the local council will ask a foreigner to produce a certificate from the embassy or a consulate

that affirms that she's not married already. But that has nothing to do with the visa stamp in her passport. To get a marriage

certificate from the embassy is (of course) a whole different story.

 

To answer your last question (and I presume you can answer it yourself) when the visa has expired your girlfriend has to leave

the UK and go back to her country or you marry her before the visa expires. But I think even a marriage doesn't grant her the right

to stay permanently when she not from a EU-country. But to be 100% sure about that you better ask someone from the local council.

 

Oh we are a smart twat, only problem is you know nothing what so ever and make a complete fool of yourself ........ well done

 

I will give you a clue - fiancee visa, nothing what so ever to do with tourism therefore there i absolutely no reason WHAT SO EVER to provide a reason to return.

 

This grants her the right to apply for residency AND REMAIN.

 

A local council WILL NOT ask for proof as they already have it on the visa itself. It has EVERYTHING to do with the visa stamp in her passport according to an immigration expert! So if you don't mind I would prefer to listen to him ;)

 

So smart ass, I have a visa IN THE POST from the embassy. What date have they stamped on it? Have they stamped the day it left the embassy or have the post dated it for say 5 days time to give you time to ready yourself?

 

When the visa 'expires' most fiancee visa applicants have already applied for residency therefore do not have to leave.

 

So really in the end you have answered nothing at all I asked, merely tried to make yourself look 'wise' but in reality, you know very little about what you are speaking about. Sorry to be the barer of such bad news.

 

 

These are all valid questions, no need to jump on ST's case here.

 

I would guess the letter to show that she is free to marry would come from the Thai consulate in the UK, Like the one we would need to get from our consulate in Thailand if we were to marry there.

 

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/infs/inf4husbandswivespartners

 

Good luck dude!

 

HAHA looks like you folks can bring your LBs back too, unlike the US

 

Thanks mate very helpful indeed, as above, if people read what is written they make start to understand rather than trying to act like smart ass's You know, these forums are meant to assist others, both wise and not. There is always one

 

 

I would get her to get a certificate stating that she was not married before she left Thailand and get ti translated into English.

 

The embassy have this already mate, I was advised today that the actual fiancee visa confirms legally that she is able to marry. Having said that, this is my council and they are complete knob ends so I am trying to get her copy of the certificate!

[Scottish_Tyrant]

I can't believe you asking this. When does the visa start? Huh? The visa starts when it's stamped in the passport. That means when you

have the visa in the passport you are free to leave the country. It's just that the visa stamp says UNTIL the visa is valid. The visa says

nothing about when you can leave the country. You have the visa - you can go.

 

'I thought a visa would suffice as the embassy is hardly likely to grant it if she is unable to marry'

 

Huh? What does this mean? You mean Thais that are already married will not get a visa and cannot leave Thailand?

The embassy is NOT interested to find out if somebody is married already. That's only the case if they want to find out

if a person is willing to return to Thailand to grant the visa and, to be honest, to be already married for the authority IS A

GOOD reason to return to Thailand and so they grant a visa a lot easier.

 

Come on, tell me you're not that naive! Of course the local council will ask a foreigner to produce a certificate from the embassy or a consulate

that affirms that she's not married already. But that has nothing to do with the visa stamp in her passport. To get a marriage

certificate from the embassy is (of course) a whole different story.

 

To answer your last question (and I presume you can answer it yourself) when the visa has expired your girlfriend has to leave

the UK and go back to her country or you marry her before the visa expires. But I think even a marriage doesn't grant her the right

to stay permanently when she not from a EU-country. But to be 100% sure about that you better ask someone from the local council.

 

Oh and for your information I got the visa today, and guess what ........ you are again VERY wrong, visa starts on 15th December not the day I get it.

[Thai Visa Express]

Included within the application is a letter from her local Amphur which states she has never registered a marriage and she is free to marry you.

 

The council are talking rubbish in your case the visa is valid from 15 December so she may travel then.

 

You visit your local registry office they book you an appointment at the area registrar they interview you both check the entry clearance visa states marriage then they issue notice of the intended marriage.

 

And thats it you marry, once married you apply for FLR in the UK using :

 

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/flr/formflrm102009

 

 

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/flr/guideflrm102009

 

 

She will also need a national ID card :

 

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/ukresidency/extendingyourstay/applicationtype/flr(m)/idcards-spouse/

 

Regards Paul.

[furryman]

Oh and for your information I got the visa today, and guess what ........ you are again VERY wrong, visa starts on 15th December not the day I get it.

 

Congratulations dude! best wishes for you both!

[Thai Visa Express]

And some further information within the 2 years she must pass the KOL requirement or attend an ESOL course and demonstrate she has moved up one level, if she does all this she can gain indefinate leave to remaimn in the UK.Her child may join her at anytime and she will be issued exactly the same entry clearance as her mother.

 

Knowledge of life in the UK

 

Further leave to remain

 

Regards Paul

[Scottish_Tyrant]

Congratulations dude! best wishes for you both!

 

Thank you.