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"All precaution with safe sex is out the door here as Nam and I began fucking each other with reckless abandon. After about an hour, I actually finish inside her."

"wake her and begin fucking her again. We go hard and fast. This time, I finish in about 15 minutes, inside her again."

"I think my dick is about to fall off due to all the tearing and bleeding, but I decide fuck it. I ram the shit out of her in this position and then cum buckets inside her pussy, letting out a guttural grunt."

"At one point the condom rips and I continue fucking her still, raw. She loves every moment. "

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Yeah I could see why Nam might not have been joking about it being AIDS and Prep does sometimes display the same side effects as HIV as I took a recently expired batch a few years back that got my arms all covered in hives and rashes which freaked me out as well. Lesson learned on following the expiration date and moving to the milder Descovy. Lucky for you that it was only an allergic reaction instead of winning the ultimate lottery while on Prep.

On a positive note, Nam actually does seem like a nice person deep down and like you said she is probably not facing or fully admitting to her past trauma and clearly made it worse by being a bargirl and taking in all of the pitfalls of that lifestyle instead of seeking some real professional help to overcome her demons. This applies to Rin and all of your other girls as well to various degrees as mental health is still stigmatized in Thailand

My opinion is that Nam probably likes you more then she let's on and obviously is trying to make the fantasy of her being a "good girl living with bad karma" hold true for herself as she's juggling her 'faves' aka Korean and Thai 'bfs' with guys who she is 'friendly' with aka you and probably a few others in your position and her wishy washy and changing attitude throughout this and your past TRs is due to the fact that she is trying to juggle all of these guys while still giving the illusion(for herself mostly) that she's not doing anything wrong because she's a "good girl" which she is deep down albeit VERY flawed.

Anyways hope your health issues settle as you did hint at a Soi 6 girl upcoming and obviously Rin is preoccupied with Senpai Yippon. She's another one that I can see why you like so much but obviously hardened as well if she has been working as long as you've been hinting at and probably has a lot of past trauma as well if she whimsically blocks and then unblocks you once you met up with her again and even forgot the reason WHY she was angry in the first place.

*Side note - I'm actually taking a different tint to your TR as it actually wants me to visit Pattaya again after so many years and I've always felt that VN and the PI were highly overrated for different reasons but that is my own bias at play. I actually want to jump into this *action* again after so many years of not getting kicked while I'm down 🫠😍.

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Bar Girl Insecurities (and yours)

A lot of the recent conversation in this thread got me thinking about the one thing that dictates every interaction we have in this city...yet we rarely recognize it: Insecurities.

Now, I’m not a Psychologist (though I did get a B in Psych class back in college 😎). But after enough seasons on the ground in Pattaya, you start to see the patterns. You begin to try to deeply analyze these girls on a deeper level. Now...some may say that's a fool's errand. And you're half right. Sometimes there ain't no way I'm ever going to understand what goes on in the minds of some of these wild girls. But I like to try. 

Everyone has insecurities. You, me, that 10/10 agogo girl at Xs/Dragon/Sapphire. The Isaan girl sitting quietly in Tree Town...or the 5-foot Soi6 girl who can easily tackle and pick up a 220lb farang like a professional linebacker. Hang around Pattaya enough, and you'll slowly start to see the different kinds of girls. Maybe even pick up patterns.

The difference is not if they are insecure, but more so: how much + what kind. Some don't give a shit (or at least, they act like they don't give a shit to put up a front). But deep down inside, they all have it. 

For the top-tier girls, the insecurity is about status. They know they are at the peak, but even they have some level of insecurity. Every younger, fresher girl walking through that door is a reminder that their "market cap" has a shelf life. They might have competition...jealous coworkers. Possibly high expectations. For others -> some of these girls know they're a dime a dozen: In a city where there are literally thousands of girls who look, dress, and speak similarly, the crushing weight of being replaceable is a primary driver of the girls' insecurity. Some girls, as they get older...become insecure because they know the clock is ticking. They know their looks will fade, and they'll have to lock down a sponsor, boyfriend, or even farang husband. 

I've seen this in many of the girls I've met over the years:

Nam, for example, is insecure that I have many girls that I talk to. She'd always say "you hab many lady" to the point where she literally thought I had a girl in my room and was kind of scared to knock on my door randomly. I think her insecurities stem from a guy doing this to her...or maybe even WITH her. Maybe she got left in his room while the punter told him he'd be right back...but he went drinking. And she learned that he was actually in Soi6 with somebody? Who knows? I notice she's always bringing up my butterfly status and telling me to "go find new lady then!" as a coping mechanism. Also, her looks are fading as she's getting older. 

Rin? She's insecure that I'll get bored with her. I think a long time ago she had a regular that got bored with her and just dropped her...like a sack of potatoes. She'd constantly need reassurance and ask me, "are you bored with me?" as I'd keep telling her NO. I think that's why she's so open with accompanying me to random agogos and random girl bars. She wants to make sure I'm entertained...but she's slowly hurting on the inside. There's also the slight possibility she doesn't give a fuck, though. 

For us? Well, we often talk about "leverage." We are the buyers; they are the sellers. On paper, we hold all the cards. But here’s the kicker: that's a double-edged sword. We're insecure that if the money weren't there, the smile wouldn't be either. We leverage our wallets to mask our own insecurities about our age, our balding looks, our fat chang bellies, or our boring suburban lives back home. It’s a dual-sided coin of "performative confidence." I personally think to myself that if I didn't have all this money, none of these girls would even look in my direction. Some people here are an exception to the rule...but more often than not, this fact is the truth. 

So that leads us to the question: Why are they insecure? Why are we insecure?

Simply put, insecurity stems from a divorce from reality. We (and they) are scared of loss.

The girl may be scared of losing her "top girl" status...or her financial lifeline (sponsors). When she isn't grounded in her own worth, she starts seeking validation through the number of drinks on her tally or the "seriousness" of her sponsors. They might be scared they won't be able to send enough money back home to support their kids and parents. Some might be scared of their family...that if they don't send anything, they'll be treated less than their beloved family buffalo. All of them are scared of losing face in one manner or another.

For the punter, he is mainly scared of losing the illusion. This results in us sending them hundreds of thousands of baht. All over a girl we've only spent a week with. Maybe two, tops. We're not even chasing the girl sometimes...just the mere fantasy of her. We all think "this girl is different," and we so strongly WANT to keep that facade that we're willing to lie to ourselves, our closest friends, and random internet degenerates to keep it going. Some of us spend years of our lives and even more financially...chasing that dragon. When we aren't grounded in who we are without the "buyer" status, we also start seeking genuine emotional validation from people who are literally paid to provide it. And that’s the ultimate psychological trap....trying to buy a feeling that only counts if it’s free.

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Anyways, won't bore you with any more of my ramblings. This is only my personal experience, after all. Who knows? It could be different. After all, I only DID get...just a B in Psych 101. 

Let's get back to the next day of my trip. As my Pattaya holiday is finally slowly starting to come to a close!

Edited by ENK7317
17 hours ago, Ocelot said:

"All precaution with safe sex is out the door here as Nam and I began fucking each other with reckless abandon. After about an hour, I actually finish inside her."

"wake her and begin fucking her again. We go hard and fast. This time, I finish in about 15 minutes, inside her again."

"I think my dick is about to fall off due to all the tearing and bleeding, but I decide fuck it. I ram the shit out of her in this position and then cum buckets inside her pussy, letting out a guttural grunt."

"At one point the condom rips and I continue fucking her still, raw. She loves every moment. "

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Yeah I could see why Nam might not have been joking about it being AIDS and Prep does sometimes display the same side effects as HIV as I took a recently expired batch a few years back that got my arms all covered in hives and rashes which freaked me out as well. Lesson learned on following the expiration date and moving to the milder Descovy. Lucky for you that it was only an allergic reaction instead of winning the ultimate lottery while on Prep.

Anyways hope your health issues settle as you did hint at a Soi 6 girl upcoming and obviously Rin is preoccupied with Senpai Yippon. She's another one that I can see why you like so much but obviously hardened as well if she has been working as long as you've been hinting at and probably has a lot of past trauma as well if she whimsically blocks and then unblocks you once you met up with her again and even forgot the reason WHY she was angry in the first place.

*Side note - I'm actually taking a different tint to your TR as it actually wants me to visit Pattaya again after so many years and I've always felt that VN and the PI were highly overrated for different reasons but that is my own bias at play. I actually want to jump into this *action* again after so many years of not getting kicked while I'm down 🫠😍.

Haha 😅you make it seem like all I do is raw dog these girls. I only go raw with repeat regulars and girls I know (or at least, have high confidence in) that are clean.

For example -> Nam isn't freelancing anymore (or so she says...🤔) but I've known her for 3 years now and have gone raw with her in the past. And Rin is an agogo girl, which means she gets tested regularly. Plus the condom ripped ->I didn't choose to go raw, it just...happened. And I said fuck it might as well continue. Plus AIDS doesn't happen that quickly, as I swear there's a long latent period. 

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On a positive note, Nam actually does seem like a nice person deep down and like you said she is probably not facing or fully admitting to her past trauma and clearly made it worse by being a bargirl and taking in all of the pitfalls of that lifestyle instead of seeking some real professional help to overcome her demons. This applies to Rin and all of your other girls as well to various degrees as mental health is still stigmatized in Thailand

My opinion is that Nam probably likes you more then she let's on and obviously is trying to make the fantasy of her being a "good girl living with bad karma" hold true for herself as she's juggling her 'faves' aka Korean and Thai 'bfs' with guys who she is 'friendly' with aka you and probably a few others in your position and her wishy washy and changing attitude throughout this and your past TRs is due to the fact that she is trying to juggle all of these guys while still giving the illusion(for herself mostly) that she's not doing anything wrong because she's a "good girl" which she is deep down albeit VERY flawed.

I'm still not buying it. I don't know her angle but...it's clearly some trick. She's never been this nice to me, at least without expecting something in return. I know this girl is hiding a lot and clearly knows more than she makes herself out to be. I think she's merely acting and putting on a good show for me. It's not genuine. But hey, I guess it's not so bad. Because at the end of the day, we're all paying for an illusion, anyways. But yeah, I agree with you that she might also be a nice person deep down who has had a lot of misfortune in her life to be where she is now. Oh well, not worth too much analyzing now. It was just a funny moment in my TR that was unexpected...was all. 

47 minutes ago, ENK7317 said:

Haha 😅you make it seem like all I do is raw dog these girls. I only go raw with repeat regulars and girls I know (or at least, have high confidence in) that are clean.

For example -> Nam isn't freelancing anymore (or so she says...🤔) but I've known her for 3 years now and have gone raw with her in the past. And Rin is an agogo girl, which means she gets tested regularly. Plus the condom ripped ->I didn't choose to go raw, it just...happened. And I said fuck it might as well continue. Plus AIDS doesn't happen that quickly, as I swear there's a long latent period. 

I'm still not buying it. I don't know her angle but...it's clearly some trick. She's never been this nice to me, at least without expecting something in return. I know this girl is hiding a lot and clearly knows more than she makes herself out to be. I think she's merely acting and putting on a good show for me. It's not genuine. But hey, I guess it's not so bad. Because at the end of the day, we're all paying for an illusion, anyways. But yeah, I agree with you that she might also be a nice person deep down who has had a lot of misfortune in her life to be where she is now. Oh well, not worth too much analyzing now. It was just a funny moment in my TR that was unexpected...was all. 

I'm just messing with ya man as I've done far worse when I was mongering in Thailand(barebacking African girls for one 🙃) but thankful that Prep has been around for awhile and highly effective knowing my current negative status despite my reckless behavior. HIV symptom timelapse can vary though and why you hear guys who show symptoms after only 24-48 hours and the other extreme end of showing no symptoms at all for years which is why testing is so important and preventive measures on mitigating these risks are out there despite it sometimes leading to similar symptoms as you demonstrated 🤪.

And yeah *maybe* Nam was just pretending but IMO the way I saw it and I'm sure others as well is that *maybe* she was actually showing you a bit of her "real" self and the facade wore off for that brief moment as you did say that she never saw you look that bad before and it really just sounded like she was concerned for your well being with no nefarious motives behind it.

In the end though she's still hardened and like you wrote, I'm sure she's insecure to go with a couple of other mental and emotional issues that she's picked up over the years as a place like Pattaya would change anyone over time and she has to put her "game face" on for her own well being.

I will add that while I generally agree with the context of your psychology post, I also feel that you are too harsh on yourself as well as I do get the sense that some(or maybe most) of the girls you are repeating with at least *tolerate* you at the minimum and even just like being with you despite the transactional nature in which you've met them as you aren't THAT old and don't appear THAT disgusting looking or fat or whatever horrid description that you've written about yourself and despite your sometimes "excessive and eccentric" outings with them in the bedroom and while inebriated and on other substances, you overall treat the women pretty fairly all things considered and that counts for something.

Who knows though as I've taken a 180 view on these bargirls and feel most of them are decent enough but obviously flawed that guys still need to tread carefully with but that's just me trying not to be so hardened anymore by this wild hobby as it does become a cycle of cynicism if you partake long enough and that's no way to live or see people.

6 hours ago, ENK7317 said:

So that leads us to the question: Why are they insecure? 

There is an easy explanation: Because they are human. They are just as insecure as us. The same thoughts. Insecure about their appearance, about their weight, about the future. I once had a friend in Pattaya who asked me what felt like 10 times a day whether she looked good. Because she was completely afraid that she looked bad.

7 hours ago, ENK7317 said:

I'm still not buying it. I don't know her angle but...it's clearly some trick. She's never been this nice to me, at least without expecting something in return. I know this girl is hiding a lot and clearly knows more than she makes herself out to be. I think she's merely acting and putting on a good show for me. It's not genuine. But hey, I guess it's not so bad. Because at the end of the day, we're all paying for an illusion, anyways. But yeah, I agree with you that she might also be a nice person deep down who has had a lot of misfortune in her life to be where she is now. Oh well, not worth too much analyzing now. It was just a funny moment in my TR that was unexpected...was all. 

Because of Nam. I believe that she was genuinely worried about you. Of course, you know her better than all of us, and maybe you’re right that it was just an act. But from what I can gather from your trip report, I believe her. I also believe that she genuinely likes you, even if she often doesn’t show it or doesn’t want to show it. But in the end it doesn’t really matter, because it doesn’t change the situation. You would still want to see her, even if she hated you.

5 hours ago, ENK7317 said:

We're still naked, lying in each other's arms. I'm confused as I tell Rin, "That's great, right? Why do you look so shocked?" Rin shakes her head. She says, "no like!" and I ask: Why? Rin tells me she doesn't like it when people give her money randomly like that. She stutters to try and get the right words out, but she basically explains it as if people are giving her money randomly -> it feels like they're her "boss" and she has to "work" for them. I chuckle at her response. Wow, what in the world...? I've never met a Thai girl like her. That's such a strange thing to say for a bar girl. She shakes her head again and blurts out, "not like!" She suddenly begins frantically messaging the Japanese guy. She tells me she wants the transfer reversed and has to call the bank.

Oh, she’s not the only one. I also had a girl who hated it when you just sent her money like that. And I’m sure there are plenty of them. Many don’t like it because it makes it look like they’re for sale or like she said it. That they have to work for their boss. Which is nonsense, because that’s basically why they have a sponsor. So they get money. 

On 18/05/2026 at 23:00, ENK7317 said:

Also, yeah TG network needs to be studied by intelligence agencies. I swear the web is so intricate we'd learn a thing or two, haha. 

Yeah I wonder about the bargirl group chat that people talk about that the girls have. Maybe you are in that as a legendary butterfly 😂

Solid day for sure

Those 👍 messages with Nam 🤣🤣 good lord why do they message like this all the time ? 

Its like " i know you are fucking with other girls enk but imma message you so you don't forget about me" its so exhausting

11 hours ago, ENK7317 said:

but I got a good gut feeling

One of the best things that can happen in Pattaya, specially when dealing with old toxic "girlfriends". Sometimes I let myself go, leave everyone in read , its like they downgraded 🤣🤣🤣

I always post stories on whatssap / IG when I found a new one , watch them rage and lose their mind the morning after 😂

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Yea.....the most memorable nights for me in BKK were just letting the LLTs lead the way..crashing out between 8-9 am. No one batting an eyelash at your current state.

The Baekadin is great, but pretty sure that's the place that went viral a few months ago when some Chinese and Koreans went at it out there. I have to believe the operations of the Chinese are a bit larger than the Koreans, so these sorts of things are probably inevitable to some degree haha.

 

On 20/05/2026 at 14:01, AreandBe said:

Yeah I wonder about the bargirl group chat that people talk about that the girls have. Maybe you are in that as a legendary butterfly 😂

IDK about that. My if I were to tally my count for girls boomboomed for this trip I don't think I'd have even hit double digits. I spent most of it with only 2 girls, and a few short STs here and there. If anything they'd talk about how much I can eat in front of them...hehe

 

5 hours ago, Azz said:

Solid day for sure

Those 👍 messages with Nam 🤣🤣 good lord why do they message like this all the time ? 

Its like " i know you are fucking with other girls enk but imma message you so you don't forget about me" its so exhausting

One of the best things that can happen in Pattaya, specially when dealing with old toxic "girlfriends". Sometimes I let myself go, leave everyone in read , its like they downgraded 🤣🤣🤣

I always post stories on whatssap / IG when I found a new one , watch them rage and lose their mind the morning after 😂

Yeah I swear Nam is prob one of the most infuriating person to text. I learn to just mirror her shit back to her eventually. 

Hahaha...I should do what you do. Leave on read and post stories on IG. She actually did get kind of jealous at one point. Sorta, only through text, and it's just one word. She implied I was basically living with another lady once...because I stopped seeing her for a few days. 

42 minutes ago, consciousornot said:

Yea.....the most memorable nights for me in BKK were just letting the LLTs lead the way..crashing out between 8-9 am. No one batting an eyelash at your current state.

The Baekadin is great, but pretty sure that's the place that went viral a few months ago when some Chinese and Koreans went at it out there. I have to believe the operations of the Chinese are a bit larger than the Koreans, so these sorts of things are probably inevitable to some degree haha.

 

My father told me when I was just a child,

These are the nights that never die,

Yeah -- great memories to be had partying until 8AM here. One of the things I enjoy doing is asking the girl where they like to go party and then joining them. And if they have friends, that's even better. As you have read by now, I like to party. And it's always fun with a group (she also loves it more and can be more herself). Just make sure the group is a good one and not fuck up your night. 

Yeah baekadin is definitely a new place for me. Lots of Chinese. I think people don't realize the Chinese have a larger presence than they think. All they see is Walking Street and Central. But upper north more, the Chinese are everywhere. Practically all the restaurants near Soi6 on 2nd road side are Chinese food joints. Not that I'm complaining because I love Chinese food, but really. What's the point in having like 4 Chinese restaurants within 10 steps of each other. 

 

The Chinese influence is something I've notice subtly with the ladies that still keep in touch. Their interest in learning Chinese (over Korean), or what's coming up on their Tiktok feeds. The money is there. I wonder about the source of the money (Chinese or Korean), due to the proximity of all of the scam compounds.... that combined with a BKK LLT shared with me a something that happened to her. Details were a bit difficult to follow coherently as we were both a bit drunk but in short. A Chinese customer had partied with some ladies, she was sent by her shop afterwards. He held her at gunpoint since he thought she robbed him (even though she had only just arrived). She kept telling him to check with security CCTV from her shop to clear her name. Yea, bit strange. To the point that he was banned from their shop in NEP.

Anyways...for better or worse, the money that goes into Thailand, and I believe especially in adult entertainment venues, is not always super clean. Not that the ladies care, but it's a different element to the scene that can help understand why the ladies may be in extraction mode, or white lying (aka compartmentalizing) all of the time.

If our times ever overlap, I get the picture you and I party in similar modes! Don't kill yourself haha

On 17/05/2026 at 14:05, Jack2022p said:

Damnn broo totally missed this TR. Read it in one go till 3am while I had a weekend shift the next morning... 

Some parts are really relatable, like looking for a lady while you know that it's not a good idea. 

Enjoyed reading it broo 

Thanks bro. Enjoyed your comments on my last TR as well. Only got a few days left for this one, though. SO the trip is almost done.

 

1 hour ago, consciousornot said:

The Chinese influence is something I've notice subtly with the ladies that still keep in touch. Their interest in learning Chinese (over Korean), or what's coming up on their Tiktok feeds. The money is there. I wonder about the source of the money (Chinese or Korean), due to the proximity of all of the scam compounds.... that combined with a BKK LLT shared with me a something that happened to her. Details were a bit difficult to follow coherently as we were both a bit drunk but in short. A Chinese customer had partied with some ladies, she was sent by her shop afterwards. He held her at gunpoint since he thought she robbed him (even though she had only just arrived). She kept telling him to check with security CCTV from her shop to clear her name. Yea, bit strange. To the point that he was banned from their shop in NEP.

Anyways...for better or worse, the money that goes into Thailand, and I believe especially in adult entertainment venues, is not always super clean. Not that the ladies care, but it's a different element to the scene that can help understand why the ladies may be in extraction mode, or white lying (aka compartmentalizing) all of the time.

If our times ever overlap, I get the picture you and I party in similar modes! Don't kill yourself haha

Wild that the Chinese are procuring firearms in LOS. They do pour in by the thousands, though, and are slowly spreading their influence. And yeah, lots of the new girls I talk to (younger crowd) of girls on Soi6 are heavily into Chinese tiktok crowd and learning Mandarin. In fact, Pim herself told me she had just spent a month in either Taiwan or Hong Kong/Beijing/<insert Chinese city> with a wealthy sponsor. The funny thing is that China's so close by, it makes sense. And they can afford to fly these girls over on a moment's notice. It's also interesting that they separate China, Taiwan, and Singapore. I've asked a girl where she thought I was from, and she literally named all those separately. So even within the Chinese crowd, there are clear separations. 

But not that it matters one way or another. Just interesting to see the slow transition. I'd say out of the East Asians I see the most are Chinese. Followed by Koreans...and then Japanese. But this is just my personal experience. I can tell which is which probably 95% of the time just at a glance. And then if they converse or speak, then I can definitely confirm it.

10 hours ago, ENK7317 said:

But man, am I glad I found Pim

That was really refreshing. Its one of the things that got me hook. Some trips started really bad but then you find an unicorn and a new trip begins.

Day 18 - The End is Nigh

I'm sleeping soundly when I'm awakened suddenly by my phone ringing. Fuck, who could be calling me at this time so early? I check the phone and realize Nam is trying to call me. Ugh, she's being annoying again. I also don't wanna answer because Pim is sleeping next to me. I silence it but then check the time: WTF. It's already almost 4PM??!!

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I realized I didn't go to bed until 8AM, so this kind of makes sense. Good damn, now I'm starting to be a vampire like the rest of these girls. I see that Pim is still snoring softly. I get worried it's so late because she has to work soon. If I recall, most Soi6 bars open around 3PM (?)...and most girls are there before to get the shop ready and/or do other things. I nudge her awake because I'm thinking she might have overslept. She looks at me and sighs. Then rolls over. I ask her if she needs to go to work, but she quietly shakes her head. "Siiick..." she groans. What? How? She then sits up and tells me the weed vape pen I let her hit did something to her throat. Her voice sounds very coarse and raspy. Hmm....I should prob stop getting the girls to try the vape. She then tells me that she already let her work know that she's going to the doctor today. 

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Oh, okay. I'm a degenerate, so I immediately think: so the rest of her body still works right? I then grab her and get on top. She groans as I slowly enter her. Her body is tight and warm. I begin pounding away slowly at first. Then I go hard and fast. She isn't making much noise—just the occasional whimper. I eventually flip her again and fuck her doggy, grabbing her head. Eventually, I finish as she sighs deeply. She likes to make funny noises, and it's cute. I then clean up and come out. She's still lying down under the covers. I tell her to get up, but she wants to sleep some more. Damn, these girls can sleep forever. I'm also a bit tired, still. I crawl into bed and we snuggle for another hour or two.

I wake up and check the time: 5:30PM. Alright… we seriously need to get up now. I’ve only got about two real party days left, and then the final day is basically just winding down before an early flight home.

There’s something strange about the last few days of a trip to LOS. Slowly, it starts creeping into your mind—yeah… reality is coming back. And when it does, it’s going to hit like a dump truck. Responsibilities. Work. Projects. Chores. The endless routine, waiting patiently for you back home. All stacking up, like a pile of dirty dishes. And that’s the cruel thing about holidays. The beginning feels infinite...but the ending always arrives faster than you expect. Once you realize the clock is running out, something changes inside you. A quiet sense of urgency starts building in your chest. You begin weighing every decision differently. Every night suddenly matters more than before. You start thinking about opportunity costs, missed chances, and roads not taken. Who should I spend tonight with? Where should I go? What haven’t I experienced yet? Questions that barely crossed your mind at the beginning of the trip are now suddenly at the forefront of your attention. The clock is ticking.

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Pim wakes up and rubs her eyes. She still wants to sleep, but I tell her I ain't got no damn time for that. I then tell her she has to leave. She nods and begins packing her stuff. I pay her 3k, but...decide to give her another 1k. She looks at me, confused, as I tell her, "For your Doctor treatment." She seems to understand. She deeply sighs again. I walk her down to the front and then give her a big hug as she gets on the motor taxi back home. That was fun. I then remember that last night, Rin told me she was free today. I'm actually a bit perplexed. I thought she was going to spend next week with her Japanese sponsor? I decide to send her a message:

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I actually message Pim later today as well to ask if she was free. I wanted to take her again tonight and only see Rin for dinner and a quick ST. But Pim tells me she's sick, so she's going to just stay in tonight. Okay, well, Rin it is then! We agree to meet in my room first and then find somewhere to go. I learn from experience that you basically almost NEVER want to meet the girl at the destination. Always, always meet at your place first. Because they'll always be late as fuck. At least with this option, you aren't stuck sitting outside of the establishment like some idiot. 

Rin actually arrives fairly quickly. She's wearing a cute hat and a polo shirt. I ask her what she did today and she tells me she went shopping with the sponsor. He bought her all these new clothes + shoes. Wow, very cool. That begs the next question....where is he? Rin doesn't want to tell me exactly the reason why. When I probe some more, she just tells me that he is busy tonight. Fair enough. We take a taxi to Central. As we're walking in, we see that there's a big, giant instructor-led workout being done in the mall square. It's really interesting and fun-looking. We sit here staring at it for a minute or two before moving on.

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We look around for some restaurants but settle on a ramen place. Very cheap and good for only 150 baht. As we're eating, I ask Rin what she did yesterday. She tells me that she and her sponsor just hung out in the hotel room most of the time. And that they went to her agogo shop to relax there for a bit. She then smiles and says, "And you? why you no come to my shop and barfine Mint?

I laugh. If you don't remember who Mint is, she's the spinner girl that Rin is jealous of because I was staring at her. Mint also grabbed my cock and stroked it while giving me a lap dance....all in front of Rin. I tell Rin that...yes, I'm butterfly, but I'm not like that. And also...if I went to Rin's agogo last night...that means I would have seen her w/sponsor guy. And that would've been a bit....awkward. But now that I'm thinking about it—I actually kinda wanna do that someday. Just to see how it'd be. Would be interesting and funny to do. Acting like a random customer and pretending not to know her while observing at a distance. Thinking to myself, "yep, I was balls deep in that girl last night." All, of course, with a nice cold beer in my hands and my own spinner girl on my lap.

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We finish up here and begin walking outside (Beach Rd exit). It's nighttime now and perfect weather for a nice brisk walk. We decide to walk to Soi6 from Central. As we're walking, we hold hands, talking and getting close. We pass by some street performers and I give them a tip. Really cool to see this sometimes!

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We get to Soi6 and make our way through. I'm slowly walking, taking in all the sounds, sights, and smells. Damn, I'm going to miss this place. Ain't nothing like it in the world. Rin narrows her brow at me as we're walking. She demands, "why you always walking fast. But now at Soi6 you walking so SLOW?!" Haha, she has a point. She tugs my arms to get me to move a little quicker. We actually stop at a random bar because I tell her I want a drink first. I think it was Hero Bar or something. We don't stay long, only for a beer or two. As we're drinking, Rin asks me if it's okay to be drinking. I nod and tell her that my rashes are going away. I show her my arms and legs and yes....it's not as bad as before. The medicine seems to be helping. As we're sitting here, Nam messages me.

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She actually calls me again...but I'm with Rin, so I ignore it. We finish up here and walk back to my hotel room. It's a nice, refreshing walk back.

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We get to my hotel and hang out here for a bit....talking and listening to music. I ask Rin what she wants to do and she tells me she doesn't care...but wants to barfine one of her sister at some point in the night to go drinking together. Fuck yeah. That's what I like to hear. And this isn't just some random "sister" that tags along randomly in the night. This is her legit coworker from her shop. She actually tells me this is also her best friend. I know the girl she's talking about—I've bought her some drinks before in the presence of Rin. She's kool.

As we're talking, I'm hard for some reason (prob due to the copious amount of Cialis). I grab Rin. She looks surprised. I undress her, then bend her over the mirror fucking away...as we're both looking into it. I'm admiring my fat physique and Chang tits. Damn, I look good hitting that from behind. 

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I hit it for a bit, but don't finish. We decide to stop because Rin tells me that we're going to be late meeting up with her friend. I ask her where? She mentioned that one of them will be at Area 39 again. I decide to save this shot for later tonight. We get dressed and order a Grab to Xcyte Plaza. As we enter, she tells me that her friend has already reserved a table. A waiter comes up to talk to us as Rin tells him something in Thai. We eventually get led to a table and sit down. But where's the friend? Well, I guess we're here early. The friend eventually joins us 30 minutes late (as per usual Thai girl time). It's her friend from a few nights ago when we went clubbing at World House together. In fact, we still have the bottle for this table that I bought the first time—it's mostly full. They bring us the bottle and the 3 of us begin toasting and drinking—having a merry time. The music is also very good as they're playing lots of Thai soft rock. This place is really nice to bring a date for LT. Chill, good music, good drinks. Kinda reminds me of The Stones. We order some snacks and relax, playing drinking games. I notice there's a large group of Chinese people. They're all wearing the same shirt, and it reads something like "Pattaya Tour Best Spots" and has a list of all the most popular nightlife areas to hit. Probably ~10 people, if not more. They're drinking and going crazy, having fun.

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We finish up here and I ask Rin where she wants to go next. She finally decides we can head back to her agogo now to pick up her final friend. It's around midnight now. We take a taxi to her agogo and walk in. We take our seats as the bestie comes up to us. The three girls begin chattering right away. I buy shots for everyone as we hang out here for a bit. Time passes and I suddenly see Mint. She walks by as I shoot her a smile. Rin notices this from the corner of her eyes and then gets upset. She tells me that I should just go talk to Mint. She gets pissy and implies I should barfine Mint for tonight instead of her. I look at her, confused. I then smile and tell Rin to calm down. I tell Rin she doesn't need to concern herself because I wouldn't do that to her. And that I really like her. She says "bullshit" in Thai and flips me off. These girls....😅

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We sit here getting drunk and buzzed. Rin asks if I can barfine her sister at exactly 1AMand I nod. I'm kinda bored because Rin is sitting on my right (but she has her back turned and is talking to her bestie + her other friend). I'm just chilling here by myself, sipping on my whisky. Tonight's another slow night. Mint passes by again and glances over to me. We lock eyes for a second. I'm a little drunk...so I decide FUCK it. One tiny ladydrink ain't going to hurt, is it? I offer to get her a drink as she smiles. Rin notices this becomes a bit butthurt. She can't say anything, obviously, because it's her coworker. But I can tell she's affected. Mint comes back with a tequila shot and joins us. I buy everyone else around me a tequila shot as well...so it doesn't look too suspicious. I'm just a guy having fun, after all. Everyone gets a shot! We cheers and drink. Mint sits next to me on my left as we talk for a bit. I'm grabbing her ass with my hands and fondling her....without letting Rin see what I'm doing. We sit and relax for a bit until 1AM hits and Rin tells me to barfine her sister so we can leave. I nod and pay bin.

We set off! Next destination? World House Club. Why, may you ask? It was fun the last time I went. Plus, I still got a ticket for half a bottle. I kinda want to use it since I leave in a few days. Might as well, right? We order a Grab and everyone waves goodbye at us as we leave. Damn, it's a strange feeling to be leaving an agogo with not one, not two....but THREE girls. Pretty sure the other customers are thinking "WTF" lol. On the way there, Rin is giving me an insane attitude and flipping me off a lot. I sigh. I swear....this shit always happens to me. Am I the only one who gets this? Maybe I'm doing something wrong. 

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The Grab takes us to the front. I exit the Grab and look like a total fucking baller with 3 hot Thai girls in tow (2 of which are agogo dancers). The security at the frost watches me waltz up with a crew of babes. I shoot him a cheeky grin. He checks my bags as we get let in. Damn, I'm feeling like a million bucks. If you've never gone clubbing with 2-3 total Thai hotties in tow...ya gotta try it at least once, bro. I'm feeling like a maniac with a super large ego tonight....smiling like a dumbass everywhere I go. It's a good feeling (plus I'm also buzzed), haha. We get a table and I give the waiter a ticket. It's a really cute girl in a ponytail. Good damn, some of these waitresses are cute as fuck. I think to myself that if I ever have enough courage (or get drunk enough) one day, I'll ask one of them out. The four of us stand at our table, vibing to the music and dancing. We down shots like crazy and our waitress joins us in drinking games. It's a fun, amazing time. These are the nights you remember.

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We sit here drinking and getting drunk. Rin seems to ease up a lot more now that she's dancing and drinking with her best friends. We finish the bottle and the girls still want to keep the party going. Damn...let's go. Fuck it, I've drank until 8AM last night with Pim. This is nothing, now. I'm used to this shit now. 

Side note: Nam would text me at various points throughout the night. It's a bittersweet exchange. But ultimately, I feel it's for the best. 

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We exit the club around 2AM. I'm kinda drunk and the girls are still in party mode. I'm thinking about either Walking Street or Isaan club when they all suggest a karaoke place. Again? Haha. Damn, another karaoke place huh. I guess Thai's really love their karaoke. I decide, fuck it...let's go! Rin calls a Grab and we travel somewhere IDK...wasn't really paying attention. We eventually arrive 20 minutes later at some random shop/restaurant.

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We get let into a room and begin to order beers and food. The friends all get drunk and they're hopping around the sofa, chattering away and singing. It's a chaotic sight, but also very funny. Rin does this thing where she'll dance on my lap every 10 or so minutes. Then gets off, then talks to her friends. Then she'll dance on me again, kiss me, and then go back to singing. It's funny and lovely and super cute. One of the Thai workers there actually keeps coming into the room. I think he likes one of Rin's friends. He's low-key trying to flirt with the friend. I don't mind, actually. He seems kool. But he's not getting very far with her. 

At one point, Rin keeps telling me, "I'm drunk!" and then I'd laugh and tell her, "bullshit!" She goes from kissing me -> to calling me "teerak" -> to flipping me off... --> to dancing on my lap -> singing -> then complaining about Mint (from earlier) -> then chattering away with her friends. It's actually....pretty awesome, not gonna lie. Gotta embrace the chaos and crazy side. She rotates (not exactly in that order) on and off for the next hour or two. We continue to drink more and sing.

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As I’m getting drunk, I catch myself thinking… this is it. This is what life is really about. Relaxing, letting go, having nights like this that burn themselves into your memory forever. Rin, still drunk herself, wraps her arms around me. She whispers into my ear something incredibly tender. If you’ve been following this TR, you’ve probably noticed the same topic always seems to resurface whenever we drink together. Once again, she starts talking about the boyfriend idea. We’re both drunk. I’m about to give her the same answer I always do—that we can’t be together, that it would never work—but tonight… for the first time, I hesitate. For a brief moment, I seriously ask myself: can this actually be done? Could we really make a long-distance relationship work? Me and a bargirl from Pattaya, of all places? I’ve met a LOT of girls over my trips here, but Rin feels… different (as cliché as that sounds). Maybe...it’s the alcohol talking. Maybe I’m just getting swept up in the atmosphere of the night. IDK. But for a brief second in time...I genuinely considered it. She’s staring deep into my eyes, waiting for an answer, and suddenly I feel this strange sadness creeping into my chest. Because the truth is… I wish I could say yes. And to be frank, it’s not even about money. I have enough in savings. If I truly wanted to, I could move to LOS for a couple of years without much issue. But I’m not at that point in life yet. I can’t just disappear from reality entirely. I look into her eyes...strongly contemplating this. I have this urge to say "yes." To tell her that everything's going to be all right. And that I'll be there for her always. But I catch myself. I let out a deep sigh. I quietly tell her that it can’t work. She looks hurt and softly tells me maybe we can FaceTime every day. I break eye contact and look away, staying silent. I don’t know why she keeps pushing this.
 

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I decide I don't want to talk about this anymore. I pick up my drink and cheers her friends. I then excuse myself to go use the bathroom. As I leave the room, I glance over at Rin: she looks lost in thought. I step out onto the hallway. I actually have to take a mad shit. I'm in the stall for like 10 minutes before I hear footsteps. Then I hear a voice. It's Rin. She goes "enkae...are you in here?" I keep quiet. Hoping she'd go away. She then starts knocking on my stall door. Damnit, haha 😅. She asks me what I'm doing. FFS, what does it sound like I'm doing? I tell her I'm busy as she asks if I'm okay. "Yes, am okay," I reply. She's wondering what's taking me so long. She wants me to finish what I'm doing so we can go back to the karaoke room. 

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I tell her to go back and that I'll join her in a bit. It's annoying that she did this...but also kind of cute at the same time. IDK how to explain it...just is. I spend a few more minutes in here and finish up. I head back in the room and....what's going on now?!

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I enter the room and there are more people in here. Waaay more. I sit down as they're still singing karaoke. But I notice there are two tall, slim Thai guys in here. Damn, these two look like K-pop stars or something. Lean, tall, and great hairstyle. Also, really soft skin and a flawless face. One has bleach blonde hair (important for later). I smile cordially at them. Kinda pissed that the girls invited these two guys without my permission. It's around 4AM now. I'm not mad. Just...irritated. More annoyed than anything. But fuck it....this is Pattaya. And I'm used to surprises + spontaneous chaos by now. I immediately ask Rin who these two are. Rin tells me they're friends of her agogo sister. And that they just got off work and wanted to stop by for a bit. Work, where? Rin wouldn't mention it to me. And that's when I realize it.

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These guys are....GIRLS. They're TOMBOYS. God damn. I need my glasses or something. It doesn't help that the room is dimly lit. Oh, well, that changes things...I think. I've actually never partied with tomboys before. I actually...don't know what to think. Or how to act for that matter. Do I treat them as guys...or girls? It's a little bit confusing. Because if I treat them as guys, it's -> BOTTOMS UP BRO, CHUG CHUG CHUG. But if they're girls, it's a little bit different.  So I'm not sure. But I pour them some beer just to be sure. One of them smiles awkwardly at me and accepts the drink. We cheers and hang out for a bit. It's still...super awkward. But Rin is not paying them any mind. In fact, only the other two girls are talking to these two tomboys. They actually don't stay for very long. Probably 15 minutes at the most. Sure enough, Rin is truthful that they just wanted to stop by for a bit. But it's the strangest fucking thing....and you'll see why in a minute.

The two tomboys get up to leave and the girls swarm them...saying goodbye. Nothing weird here, but Rin does as well. Now the strange part? One of the tomboys (has short blonde hair, better looking one) is leaving when Rin suddenly jumps up from her seat. She's obviously still drunk...but she walks up to and hugs her. Rin then slowly caresses her face—the same way you would a boyfriend or lover. Rin then plants a kiss on her cheek and whispers something tenderly into her ear. I'm catching this from the corner of my eye, thinking...that's fucking strange. The blonde tomboy sheepishly tries to play it off as she leaves. She looked maybe...embarassed? I'm drunk and so is Rin...but I definitely felt something weird there. IDK what it is, but that soured me. Hard. I wasn't pissed before, but I am now. 

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A long time ago, I read somewhere on the forum from another TR that most of these girls are relatively straight. Now, when I say "relatively," I mean most of the time. Whether for work, finances, or just a relationship. But some of these girls actually sleep with...you guessed it...Tomboys. Maybe a girl is 70% straight, and 30% sleeps with tomboys. So in a sense, the majority of these girls are bisexual in one way or another. Or IDK. What are tomboys even? Lesbians? Cis? I'm not going to try too hard to spend time dissecting this. But just understand that...that spinner or your fav agogo dancer might sometimes go see Tomboys on the side every once in a while. Hell, I even hear that host bars employ tomboys and bar girls spend all their hard-earned cash there. I didn't think it was true until I saw this in front of my eyes. I'd always thought Rin was a normal girl in every single way. But then again...there is no such thing as "normal" in Pattaya, is there?

So Rin walks back up to me and sits down next to me. She can immediately sense that something is wrong. Obviously. I'm not trying to be subtle about it. I take a sip of my drink as Rin asks me what's wrong. I don't answer. I just keep quiet. If you know me....when I'm mad, I'll just sit there and stew in my anger. Silently sitting here allows me to think and analyze my options. I don't like to scream, yell, or do any of that other stuff. After a minute or two of being quiet, I look at Rin. I then ask again, calmly. "Who are those two who just left? How do you know them?

Rin looks worried. She tells me that they're her sister's friends. And they just came by to say hello. She repeats herself. I shake my head. I then ask her how she knows them. Rin looks at me and says, "enkae... I don't know them!" I'm not buying it. It's getting near 5AM now and I want to go home. I tell them I'm tired and want to head back. The friends look at each other and nod. They say a few words and then they each separately get a Grab back home. I order a taxi for us and we get into the back. I'm still giving Rin the cold shoulder as she nudges me. She keeps asking me what's wrong. I ask her one last time, "how do you know those two?" and Rin frowns. She gets angry. She replies, "enkae..I don't like Tomboy!!

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The funny thing is. I never asked her if she liked tomboys or not. I merely asked her how she knew them. She still keeps dodging the question. She starts shoving me in the back. She keeps repeating herself, "I not like tomboy, only like you," to which I respond, "bullshit" in Thai. Rin then gets angry and says, "Okay, so what? You do the same with Mint. You go boomboom her instead. I know you like her!" as I sigh. 

It's funny. I start smiling. I begin chuckling like a maniac in the back of the car. I can't help it. Rin is confused. She continues to repeat herself that she doesn't like tomboy. She then asks me why I'm laughing. I don't answer her. I'm drunk, smiling, and fucking pissed off. 

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Why am I laughing, you ask? Because I felt so fucking stupid. Earlier in the karaoke room, when Rin got tender with me and asked me all those boyfriend stuff. I genuinely thought it was real. I actually considered it for a solid minute. Literally. I'm cracking up at how absolutely fucking stupid I was. How dumb I thought I was to even think it could have worked. I'm actually REALLY GLAD those two tomboys came tonight...as odd as that sounds. It was the much-needed kick for my ego + my heart to shock me back to reality. To the reality that is...Pattaya. I'm angry, sad, laughing, and feeling stupid all in one emotion. God, this sucks. Rin is quiet now. I smile at her. "Okay, mai pben rai, Rin. I believe you."

She's not buying it...obviously. We get to the hotel and she exits the car, slamming her door on the way out. I get into my room. Rin immediately goes to shower. I'm tired. It's around 5:30AM now. I want to sleep. I don't even want to boomboom. She comes out naked in a towel. But I just crawl into bed and knock out. She goes to sleep as well. We're both drunk. Good night.

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And....that's it! Crazy night, right? Honestly, it was absolutely exemplary until the last half hour. It's funny how you can have an amazing night. Start it off with a bang. Ride that wave for hours and hours, partying your hearts (and livers) out. And then only to have it ruined at the end of the night by one tiny thing. It just shows you how unpredictable Pattaya is. And yeah...your girl isn't different. I thought she was for a tiny moment. And she immediately proved me wrong that same night. That's just Pattaya, folks. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. And then get off. Then jump back on again when you're bored. It's a roller coaster, after all. 

Let's hope my final few days are better than this. And drama/stress-free. But, it wouldn't be an Enkae Trip Report without some form of drama, would it?

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On 21/05/2026 at 23:21, Azz said:

That was really refreshing. Its one of the things that got me hook. Some trips started really bad but then you find an unicorn and a new trip begins.

Actually glad to have found her. And wish I took her more. Damn she was amazing and fun. Absolutely meets every single check mark in my book,

One of the worst and best things I guess...to find a girl like that near the end of your trip. Absolutely bittersweet.

And the worst part is...I genuinely don't know if she'll be there the next time I'm in town. OBV I got her LINE but we all know how fickle that is, sometimes.

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1 hour ago, ENK7317 said:

 I genuinely thought it was real. I actually considered it for a solid minute. Literally. I'm cracking up at how absolutely fucking stupid I was. How dumb I thought I was to even think it could have worked. I'm actually REALLY GLAD those two tomboys came tonight...as odd as that sounds. It was the much-needed kick for my ego + my heart to shock me back to reality. 

since u chase LLTs and gfe,
i predict there will be more lessons to be learned .
:Teacher1:

I think this TR blows the last one out of the water in every single metric.

Your first day already meeting with Nam i think the whole board including myself thought you were going to ruin your trip again, seriously, I was like the fuck are you doing  🤣🤣🤣

But now that girl is a distant memory, no longer a kryptonite so you are safe. 

I dont know if you ended up smashing Mint but shit man if you didnt you deserve a slap or two 😂😂

One of my first Thai girlfriends had a gay Thai male as a chaperone when we first met. I thought this was strange at first, but we actually became good friends (platonic only). He would later join us sometimes when we went out to eat, play pool, drink at the bar, etc. Sometimes you have to change your mindset when you are in a different country and situation.

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Too lazy to dig up another post I made..also might have been on /r/pattaya and not on this or BA's board, but compartmentalization man.

 

When you started describing the noraebang experience and the Toms coming in, I was starting to get flash backs of my first "crush" with an a-go-go girl from Feb 2025. Long story (ya I think I'll start up a TR when I touch down in early July) short, soon as I saw this spinner at a WS go-go there was that instant recognition that she chose me as much as I chose her at the same time. Fast forward a few more nights, drinks and STs. I thought to myself....there's no way she doesn't have a BF.

I pressed her on this a few times, gently, as I recognized I was falling head-over-heels for her and she denied it. Her sister/bf at the same shop also stated she had no bf, but after sometime and some deduction on social medias I realized she in fact did have a partner. When I asked her about this, she confessed, but then it was all round about since I was noticing that her partner's features were too soft, an so I asked if her partner was male to which she said no. In that sense, she didn't actually lie to me when I asked her if she had a boyfriend.

Anyways....if you think about it. Like truly extract your own dick and ego from the calculus of these young ladies lives, it makes sense that they form relationships for different aspects of their lives (we do the same in our western worlds), and that for many women who use their bodies to generate income, having a Tom is a different dynamic. Less threatening, safer, emotionally attuned, less stigma than a lipstick lesbian relationship. Different sort of jealousy dynamic than if they had a Thai male partner/spouse while still doing so, since i'd argue higher rates of physical abuse extortion etc. 

Now of course, I've no real idea what is behind Rin's thoughts or feelings, but thing of the shit their lives truly are in and how truly unsafe and unstable their existence is. Every time they go out with a potential customer, there is the chance for violence or sexual assault, so to want some sort of emotional stability is not unreasonable.

While I agree with your line of thought that trying to have an LDR with a working lady, half the world a way is not the wisest option, I would urge you to take a second, third, or even fourth moment to reflect that: there is probably a lot of reality, insecurity, vulnerability etc. interwoven into her forming relationship with you. 

And let's be a bit more brutally honest....you sort of want that, otherwise you would strictly adhere to the "3-day" rule. You want human connections more than just physical and sexual contact (as I believe most all of us here do to some degree), yet you're also (logistically & emotionally) afraid of what that might entail..or scarred.

Ok I'll get off my soap box..I'm not your therapist, but the human condition isn't that different from person to person...really.

 

That being said....fuck I love the setups you describe with the ladies enjoying themselves at noraebang. The thing I miss the most after relocating back to the states after almost 8 years in S.Korea. The crazy fun and shit that happens in closed door singing rooms are memories I'll never forget!!

 

Love the TRs!

On 23/05/2026 at 02:07, jsmithj88 said:

since u chase LLTs and gfe,
i predict there will be more lessons to be learned .
:Teacher1:

More lessons to be learned for sure. Which is always a good thing...as painful as it is. I'm slowly getting the gist of things as I get more exposed to them. 

 

On 23/05/2026 at 02:41, Azz said:

I think this TR blows the last one out of the water in every single metric.

Your first day already meeting with Nam i think the whole board including myself thought you were going to ruin your trip again, seriously, I was like the fuck are you doing  🤣🤣🤣

But now that girl is a distant memory, no longer a kryptonite so you are safe. 

I dont know if you ended up smashing Mint but shit man if you didnt you deserve a slap or two 😂😂

Really? I personally thought this Trip was not as good as my December trip. In December, I was going wild—fucking lots of hot, cute spinners left and right. Here, it is more LT/GFE with 2 solid regulars. 

Yeah Nam doesn't have an effect on me as much as she did anymore. I can take her or leave her now. Also...yeah. I be straight degenerate dogging it while with Rin—always checking out other girls in her presence. I honestly don't know why she hasn't slapped me or gotten into a big argument cuz of that 😆. Mint is cute and sexy but nah I wouldn't do that to her. I'd only do that to her maybe if we both hate each other and I wanna get back at her...which may happen in the future (who knows?), haha. 

 

 

 

On 23/05/2026 at 09:35, consciousornot said:

Too lazy to dig up another post I made..also might have been on /r/pattaya and not on this or BA's board, but compartmentalization man.

 

When you started describing the noraebang experience and the Toms coming in, I was starting to get flash backs of my first "crush" with an a-go-go girl from Feb 2025. Long story (ya I think I'll start up a TR when I touch down in early July) short, soon as I saw this spinner at a WS go-go there was that instant recognition that she chose me as much as I chose her at the same time. Fast forward a few more nights, drinks and STs. I thought to myself....there's no way she doesn't have a BF.

I pressed her on this a few times, gently, as I recognized I was falling head-over-heels for her and she denied it. Her sister/bf at the same shop also stated she had no bf, but after sometime and some deduction on social medias I realized she in fact did have a partner. When I asked her about this, she confessed, but then it was all round about since I was noticing that her partner's features were too soft, an so I asked if her partner was male to which she said no. In that sense, she didn't actually lie to me when I asked her if she had a boyfriend.

Anyways....if you think about it. Like truly extract your own dick and ego from the calculus of these young ladies lives, it makes sense that they form relationships for different aspects of their lives (we do the same in our western worlds), and that for many women who use their bodies to generate income, having a Tom is a different dynamic. Less threatening, safer, emotionally attuned, less stigma than a lipstick lesbian relationship. Different sort of jealousy dynamic than if they had a Thai male partner/spouse while still doing so, since i'd argue higher rates of physical abuse extortion etc. 

Now of course, I've no real idea what is behind Rin's thoughts or feelings, but thing of the shit their lives truly are in and how truly unsafe and unstable their existence is. Every time they go out with a potential customer, there is the chance for violence or sexual assault, so to want some sort of emotional stability is not unreasonable.

While I agree with your line of thought that trying to have an LDR with a working lady, half the world a way is not the wisest option, I would urge you to take a second, third, or even fourth moment to reflect that: there is probably a lot of reality, insecurity, vulnerability etc. interwoven into her forming relationship with you. 

And let's be a bit more brutally honest....you sort of want that, otherwise you would strictly adhere to the "3-day" rule. You want human connections more than just physical and sexual contact (as I believe most all of us here do to some degree), yet you're also (logistically & emotionally) afraid of what that might entail..or scarred.

Ok I'll get off my soap box..I'm not your therapist, but the human condition isn't that different from person to person...really.

 

That being said....fuck I love the setups you describe with the ladies enjoying themselves at noraebang. The thing I miss the most after relocating back to the states after almost 8 years in S.Korea. The crazy fun and shit that happens in closed door singing rooms are memories I'll never forget!!

 

Love the TRs!

I just find it interesting, is all. IDK if she's into tomboys, ladies, men, or ladyboys. But I'm more curious as to why. Thank you for explaining it slightly. And I appreciate your insight into potential LDR and what Rin was probably thinking about at the time. 

And yes noraebang (i'm assuming that means karaoke rooms in Korean) are incredibly fun! I've never tried it until this trip....and it absolutely is a great experience. But the only thing I hear is that somnetimes the KTVs that have girls you aren't able to boomboom the girls. Some KTVs I hear, you only go there and they drink with you all night and if they like you, you MIGHT be able to get their LINE or contact info. It's not gauranteed like barfine or ST/LT. 

On 23/05/2026 at 06:40, L.O.S Lyle said:

One of my first Thai girlfriends had a gay Thai male as a chaperone when we first met. I thought this was strange at first, but we actually became good friends (platonic only). He would later join us sometimes when we went out to eat, play pool, drink at the bar, etc. Sometimes you have to change your mindset when you are in a different country and situation.

Yeah...that one gay best friend. 

Just messing. I'm sure he was actually gay...and not banging her behind your back. I find it interesting, is all. And yeah....shits wild. It's a bit of a culture shock but I'm slowly adjusting to it. 

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