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Is fatigue from Apcalis potentially a thing?

When I have been to Pattaya the past two years I have experienced fatigue that seems to be building day by day. I am in good shape and do not drink a lot. At the end of my 2 weeks I feel devastated and look forward to going home.

But lately I have been having a suspicion that it might be caused by the 10mg of Apcalis (1/2 tablet) I took daily. I only take Apcalis when in Pattaya. When starting on Apcalis I felt great. It feels like all the small bloodvessels on my skin dilate and my skin become warm to the touch. Seems like I get rid of excess heat easily while on Apcalis. But I now suspect that Apcalis while working wonders for my erections might also be causing my insomnia and fatigue. After a couple of days I have to go to the toilet to defecate (english is not my first language) a lot appr. 12 hours after ingestion of Apcalis.

Has anyone experienced anything similar?

Posted

I use Tadalafil ( same active ingredient in Apcalis ) daily when in Pattaya ( 2.5mg ) and also Sidegra if needed.

I didn't notice any side effect beside a headache the first few days.

Posted (edited)

I am unsure of what to do on my next trip. I think my problem could be caused by

  • accumulating concentration of Tadalafil (has a long half life)
  • or some kind of rare sideeffect/reaction to Tadalafil

I like your approach with a low dose of Tadalafil and Sidegra. I assume Sidegra is the active ingredient in Viagra/Kamagra. Everyone is different I suppose but what dose of Sidegra do you use? And do you use it everytime?

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Posted (edited)
On 23/09/2024 at 17:12, aakmu said:

I am unsure of what to do on my next trip. I think my problem could be caused by

  • accumulating concentration of Tadalafil (has a long half life)
  • or some kind of rare sideeffect/reaction to Tadalafil

I like your approach with a low dose of Tadalafil and Sidegra. I assume Sidegra is the active ingredient in Viagra/Kamagra. Everyone is different I suppose but what dose of Sidegra do you use? And do you use it everytime?

Sorry for the late answer. I used only 25mg Sidegra as I wanted to minimize the potential side effects ( low blood pressure or priapism ). I only did the Sidegra when I was tired or if it was not my first encounter of the day.

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Posted
47 minutes ago, TinySkinnyLarry said:

Sorry for the late answer. I used only 25mg Sidegra as I wanted to minimize the potential side effects ( low blood pressure or priapism ). I only did the Sidegra when I was tired or if it was not my first encounter of the day.

No worries. I am busy reading TRs - I am really looking forward to my next trip!

I like your approach and I think I will try something similar albeit no tadalafil. So low dose Sidegra/Kamagra when needed. Even if it has some side effects it should be shorter acting.

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I take the 20mg Cialis (from a street vendor) I take half about 3-4 hours before a punt and the remainder about 1 hour before works great but afterwards all I want to do is sleep and suffer from a feeling of fatigue on the walk home.

Only comes on after dropping a load so maybe it's the sex and not the Cialis?

 

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59 minutes ago, cruman999 said:

I take the 20mg Cialis (from a street vendor) I take half about 3-4 hours before a punt and the remainder about 1 hour before works great but afterwards all I want to do is sleep and suffer from a feeling of fatigue on the walk home.

Try this dosage plan. It is one I have posted before: not received any adverse comments.

Using Apcalis (generic for Cialis)

Dosage

Work on the plan of 5mg a day (1/4 of a 20mg tablet); dissolve one whole tablet in Gatorade or similar, drink one quarter each day. Maybe take 10mg (half a tablet) on Day One to kickstart the system, or start two days before leaving home (if you have saved some Apcalis from your previous trip).

Reports say Apcalis has a 36-hour half-life. This being so, the amount in your system builds up over your first week of daily 5mg intake and then stabilises.

Day

dose

1/2 life

Fresh dose

TOTAL

 

mg

mg

mg

mg

1

5

-

-

5.0

2

 

2.5

5

7.5

3

 

3.7

5

8.7

4

 

4.4

5

9.4

5

 

4.7

5

9.7

6

 

4.8

5

9.8

7

 

4.9

5

9.9

8

 

5

5

10

9

 

5

5

10

Apcalis pills are most commonly available as 20mg tablets, available in pharmacies and from itinerant street vendors. Commonly reported price is 200 bahts for four tablets.

Pill-cutter

To cut a pill accurately and without mess, use a pill-cutter; this picture is of one available on Ebay in Australia for about $A4-5 (120 bahts) including postage. Check pharmacy or a dollar shop.

 

Apcalis also comes as a 20mg Oral Jelly, but it is not widely available.

Recommended pharmacy

Tim’s Pharmacy, inland side of Second Road, about 80m south-west of KISS restaurant, opposite Mike’s Shopping Mall.

 

In April 2024 monger on Pattaya Addicts wrote “I just bought 7 packs of Apcalis for 1000 baht from the lady outside Areca Lodge hotel.  And, like always I have no issue with the quality of her products.”

Lady referred to is a street vendor. Price works out as 143 bahts a pack, about 36 bahts per tablet.

 

 

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Posted
9 hours ago, aakmu said:

So low dose Sidegra/Kamagra when needed. Even if it has some side effects it should be shorter acting.

Kamagra is Sildenafil and another molecule to prevent coming too fast.

As I already last too long with Tadalafil this is a no go for me.

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On 24/09/2024 at 02:58, aakmu said:

Is fatigue from Apcalis potentially a thing?

When I have been to Pattaya the past two years I have experienced fatigue 

Methinks it might be too much shagging, you naughty man.

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Sure it’s not the girls wearing you out?

Seriously though, try some of the other ED meds to see if they work with less side effects.  Try lower doses.  If different ED drugs work with similar side effect profiles, try alternating every few days.  

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34 minutes ago, TinySkinnyLarry said:

Kamagra is Sildenafil and another molecule to prevent coming too fast.

As I already last too long with Tadalafil this is a no go for me.


Kamagra is sidenafil.

Super Kamagra combines sildenafil (like Kamagra) with dapoxetine, which is used to treat both erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation

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On 23/09/2024 at 21:58, aakmu said:

At the end of my 2 weeks I feel devastated and look forward to going home

Under normal conditions you'll use a week to overcome jetlag. Drinking, partying and shagging are not normal conditions and from my limited knowledge on the subject I'll say it pretty normal for a tourist to feel devastated after 2 weeks in fun town 

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13 hours ago, Kandinski said:

Under normal conditions you'll use a week to overcome jetlag. Drinking, partying and shagging are not normal conditions and from my limited knowledge on the subject I'll say it pretty normal for a tourist to feel devastated after 2 weeks in fun town 

Great point!

 

14 hours ago, momo5 said:

Sure it’s not the girls wearing you out?

Seriously though, try some of the other ED meds to see if they work with less side effects.  Try lower doses.  If different ED drugs work with similar side effect profiles, try alternating every few days.  

Good points. Could very well be the girls, lifestyle and jetlag combined. I will be more aware of getting enough sleep and rest. Perhaps I will try TF - I have not tried this particular option just yet.

I will try other ED meds at lower doses to see if I experience fewer side effects.

 

I appreciate the responses - this is a great forum!

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Here are the result of my recent trial during my 14 days in november in Patts:

  1. I tried minimizing the dose of Tadalafil. On arriving I took 5 mg of Tadalafil. Only this small dose without "pre-loading" gave me a lot stronger erection and a lot more ease-of-mind. Worked out great. The next day I took another 2.5 mg. However, in the evening the feeling -that I had previously experienced- of fatigue set in.
  2. So I abandoned Tadalafil and bought some 50 mg Sidegra (sildenafil). In order to minimize the side-effects I used the minimum effective dose: I cut the pills in half (25mg) and disolved it in half a bottle of water. I drank half the water (12.5mg) within appr. 1 hour of needing it. I did so 2 times a day for an accumulated daily dose of 25mg (2 times 12.5 mg).

In conclusion: I took 12.5 mg of sildenafile (Sidegra) before use 2 times a day for an accumulated dose of 25mg. All of my "costumers" were very happy with my performance. One time I took 25mg of sildenafil and had wonderful intercourse with delayed ejection for about 1.5 hours.

My vacation is over and I feel great. I am certain that my fatigue on previous trips to Pattaya was primarily due to tadafil. I am not advicing anyone and everyone is different. If you find a medication that works for you then stick to it. My augmenting medication of choice from hereon out will be a low dose Sidegra.

 

Thank you for all your replies and I wish you all good experiences mongering in Pattaya!

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15 minutes ago, aakmu said:

All of my "costumers" were very happy with my performance

Also seems to increase optimism 

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42 minutes ago, keepitfun said:

Also seems to increase optimism 

For sure it seems to help me mentally. The results are the same - good experiences shared :)

Posted
On 23/09/2024 at 21:58, aakmu said:

I have experienced fatigue that seems to be building day by day

 Sleep pattern, diet, hydration, intake of electrolyte balanced to activities etc are some of the more commom reason for fatigue. 

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On 02/10/2024 at 19:52, Bonkabit said:

Try this dosage plan. It is one I have posted before: not received any adverse comments.

Using Apcalis (generic for Cialis)

Dosage

Work on the plan of 5mg a day (1/4 of a 20mg tablet); dissolve one whole tablet in Gatorade or similar, drink one quarter each day. Maybe take 10mg (half a tablet) on Day One to kickstart the system, or start two days before leaving home (if you have saved some Apcalis from your previous trip).

Reports say Apcalis has a 36-hour half-life. This being so, the amount in your system builds up over your first week of daily 5mg intake and then stabilises.

Day

dose

1/2 life

Fresh dose

TOTAL

 

mg

mg

mg

mg

1

5

-

-

5.0

2

 

2.5

5

7.5

3

 

3.7

5

8.7

4

 

4.4

5

9.4

5

 

4.7

5

9.7

6

 

4.8

5

9.8

7

 

4.9

5

9.9

8

 

5

5

10

9

 

5

5

10

Apcalis pills are most commonly available as 20mg tablets, available in pharmacies and from itinerant street vendors. Commonly reported price is 200 bahts for four tablets.

 

Bonkabit, we have a problem: The plasma half-life of tadalafil is actually 17.5 hours. This is not THAT much of a problem, but it does mean a change in the numbers. This chart explains it in more detail:

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Source: American Council on Science & Health, Drug Half-Life: Why Viagra Works for 4 Hours But Cialis Works for 24 Hours

That 17.5-hour plasma half-life means that 24 hours after a 10-mg dose, you will have an estimated 3.646 mg of tadalafil in your system. Add 5 mg per day, and here's the results:

TadalafilDaily.jpg.6f7de98a3f4bb99cbe88a32f9665749e.jpg

I carried this out to 14 days to demonstrate where it bottoms out -- almost 3 mg at the end of each 24-hour dosing period, almost 8 mg after your body absorbs the daily dose. Remember (from the first chart) that it takes 2 hours to reach peak plasma concentration, so if you want to be at your peak in mid-afternoon, that daily dose would go best with your lunch (or with supper if you're a night-rover).

How to dose it? Certainly, 5-mg tabs would be most convenient, but I haven't seen them on the street. I figure on bringing a milligram scale, next trip, and getting the Apcalis gel packs; if 5 grams of gel contain 20 mg of tadalafil, my daily dose should be 1.25 grams, and keep the open pack in my fridge.

(Westy on Philippine-Addicts. BeijaFlor ('kiss-flower') is Portuguese for hummingbird, a tiny jewel of a bird that flits from flower to flower, like a butterfly ... but I am anything BUT tiny!)

Posted
On 24/11/2024 at 00:28, aakmu said:

Here are the result of my recent trial during my 14 days in november in Patts:

  1. I tried minimizing the dose of Tadalafil. On arriving I took 5 mg of Tadalafil. Only this small dose without "pre-loading" gave me a lot stronger erection and a lot more ease-of-mind. Worked out great. The next day I took another 2.5 mg. However, in the evening the feeling -that I had previously experienced- of fatigue set in.
  2. So I abandoned Tadalafil and bought some 50 mg Sidegra (sildenafil). In order to minimize the side-effects I used the minimum effective dose: I cut the pills in half (25mg) and disolved it in half a bottle of water. I drank half the water (12.5mg) within appr. 1 hour of needing it. I did so 2 times a day for an accumulated daily dose of 25mg (2 times 12.5 mg).

In conclusion: I took 12.5 mg of sildenafile (Sidegra) before use 2 times a day for an accumulated dose of 25mg. All of my "costumers" were very happy with my performance. One time I took 25mg of sildenafil and had wonderful intercourse with delayed ejection for about 1.5 hours.

My vacation is over and I feel great. I am certain that my fatigue on previous trips to Pattaya was primarily due to tadafil. I am not advicing anyone and everyone is different. If you find a medication that works for you then stick to it. My augmenting medication of choice from hereon out will be a low dose Sidegra.

 

Thank you for all your replies and I wish you all good experiences mongering in Pattaya!

Thank you for your post. 

May I ask, when and how much was your alcohol intake? Also, It sounds that you didn’t take the pills before the act. Were you taking them empty stomach like after waking up or after your meals? 

Posted
On 23/09/2024 at 16:58, aakmu said:

Is fatigue from Apcalis potentially a thing?

When I have been to Pattaya the past two years I have experienced fatigue that seems to be building day by day. I am in good shape and do not drink a lot. At the end of my 2 weeks I feel devastated and look forward to going home.

But lately I have been having a suspicion that it might be caused by the 10mg of Apcalis (1/2 tablet) I took daily. I only take Apcalis when in Pattaya. When starting on Apcalis I felt great. It feels like all the small bloodvessels on my skin dilate and my skin become warm to the touch. Seems like I get rid of excess heat easily while on Apcalis. But I now suspect that Apcalis while working wonders for my erections might also be causing my insomnia and fatigue. After a couple of days I have to go to the toilet to defecate (english is not my first language) a lot appr. 12 hours after ingestion of Apcalis.

Has anyone experienced anything similar?

You overdose! 😲

Tadalafil (Cialis/Apcalis) last much longer in the body than Sildenafil (Viagra/Sidegra)!

If you want to take Tadalafil on a daily basis 2,5mg up to max 5mg is enough!

A one time tablet of 10-20mg Tadalafil is meant to last for 3-5 days,

if you take that dosis everday your blood will soon be oversaturated with Tadalafil

and hence side-effects more prolonged and severe.

ควายแก่แต่ชอบกินหญ้าอ่อน

 

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I take 1 packet a day of kamagra oral jelly.
i mix it with water and drink half after breakfast 10am and the next about 9 pm.
it work for me that i have it in my system all the time during my holiday
i normally have sex 2 times a day

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7 hours ago, BeijaFlor said:

.I figure on bringing a milligram scale, next trip, and getting the Apcalis gel packs; if 5 grams of gel contain 20 mg of tadalafil, my daily dose should be 1.25 grams, and keep the open pack in my fridge.

I think you may find it difficult to locate stocks of Apcalis Gel; as far as I know, it is not widely available in the way that Kamagra Gel is.

My next trip, I plan to dissolve one Apcalis 20mg tablet into Gatorade or similar; take one quarter of the bottle each day.

Easy to measure the amount.  Apcalis tablets are on widespread sale. 

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1 hour ago, Bonkabit said:

I think you may find it difficult to locate stocks of Apcalis Gel; as far as I know, it is not widely available in the way that Kamagra Gel is.

Ajanta apcalis gel has always been missing from the Pattaya market IME.  We always bought it in bulk in Philippines.

However, right now apcalis gel is mia ... Difficult to find in Philippines also.  I bought some last week but it wasn't an easy find.

I wonder if ajanta is making a change or eliminating the product.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bonkabit said:

I think you may find it difficult to locate stocks of Apcalis Gel; as far as I know, it is not widely available in the way that Kamagra Gel is.

My next trip, I plan to dissolve one Apcalis 20mg tablet into Gatorade or similar; take one quarter of the bottle each day.

Easy to measure the amount.  Apcalis tablets are on widespread sale. 

Hmmm. Apcalis gel was readily available in October 2023, my last visit. I found it at the tourist-goods market on the corner of Soi 10 and Beach Road. OTOH, I could also bring a mortar and pestle to grind the tablets, and portion it out by weight the same way. Your Gatorade method could work with powdered tablets, too.

(Westy on Philippine-Addicts. BeijaFlor ('kiss-flower') is Portuguese for hummingbird, a tiny jewel of a bird that flits from flower to flower, like a butterfly ... but I am anything BUT tiny!)

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