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Posted
22 minutes ago, bck said:

normally its 1 ml every 10-14 days, for me every 10 days is optimal.

What do you take for TRT

Test Cyp ? Or Prop ?

How big is the vials? How much of the pic would you take ?

 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Drew57 said:

What do you take for TRT

Test Cyp ? Or Prop ?

How big is the vials? How much of the pic would you take ?

 

Screenshot_20231212_174818_Google.jpg

I take 1 ml of this every 10 days, if not this then Bayer brand. Both come in 1 ml vial, both 250 mg

One in the pic IF from a decent company, is 100 mg, so i would take double

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Drew57 said:

What do you take for TRT

Test Cyp ? Or Prop ?

How big is the vials? How much of the pic would you take ?

 

 

Cypionate is better because it lasts longer but i have not seen any for sale locally made by reputable company. Have seen Thai brand, tried it but i seriously doubt it was test at all, felt like water no oily feel to it at all

Enanthate lasts 10 days, hence why i do a shot every 10 days and its the only one from good companies.

Posted (edited)
48 minutes ago, bck said:

I take 1 ml of this every 10 days, if not this then Bayer brand. Both come in 1 ml vial, both 250 mg

One in the pic IF from a decent company, is 100 mg, so i would take double

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1 vial ? As shown in picture? My pic is off google just for this thread 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Drew57 said:

1 vial ? As shown in picture? My pic is off google just for this thread 

yes, 1 vial, 1 shot every 10 days, each vial contains  1 ml

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Posted
1 minute ago, bck said:

each vial contains  1 ml

So your on 1ml vial at 250mg ?

Posted
50 minutes ago, Drew57 said:

So your on 1ml vial at 250mg ?

yes

Posted
12 hours ago, bck said:

yes

You on it from body building or TRT?

What have you noticed ? I'm just turned 60 

Posted

@bck You may want to look into injecting smaller dosages on a more frequent basis, especially if you can self-administer.  Enanthate's half-life is 4.5 days, it should be eliminated from you body after 14 days.  250mg every 10 days is potentially causing some significant swings within that 10 days.  

Listen to your doctor, but also weigh that info against a secondary opinion or advice you seek out online (i.e. trust, but verify).  Many of the online experts these days are saying things like 20-60mg injected every three days or 100-120mg per week maximum is the sweet spot for improvement (i.e. Total Testosterone scores of 700) with minimal risk to your long-term health.  The thought process behind this is that larger dosages, further apart, tend to cause more aromatization (Testosterone conversion to Estradiol).  The higher your Estadiol, the greater need to bring in an Aromatose Inhibitor (e.g. Arimidex, Aromasin, etc.) which is extremely easy to take too much then bring your Estradiol numbers too low which open you up for an even greater risk for heart problems, weakened bones, etc. 

I posted this in another thread last week, but below is a chart to help you visualize injections at different times.  You definitely don't want to be the guy below injecting once every 3 or 4 weeks and falling back to zero the last few days of the interval.  

 

image.png.04b13853b9f4cafe1a684ec6405dade2.png

 

Posted
5 hours ago, SHTravel said:

@bck You may want to look into injecting smaller dosages on a more frequent basis, especially if you can self-administer.  Enanthate's half-life is 4.5 days, it should be eliminated from you body after 14 days.  250mg every 10 days is potentially causing some significant swings within that 10 days.  

Listen to your doctor, but also weigh that info against a secondary opinion or advice you seek out online (i.e. trust, but verify).  Many of the online experts these days are saying things like 20-60mg injected every three days or 100-120mg per week maximum is the sweet spot for improvement (i.e. Total Testosterone scores of 700) with minimal risk to your long-term health.  The thought process behind this is that larger dosages, further apart, tend to cause more aromatization (Testosterone conversion to Estradiol).  The higher your Estadiol, the greater need to bring in an Aromatose Inhibitor (e.g. Arimidex, Aromasin, etc.) which is extremely easy to take too much then bring your Estradiol numbers too low which open you up for an even greater risk for heart problems, weakened bones, etc. 

I posted this in another thread last week, but below is a chart to help you visualize injections at different times.  You definitely don't want to be the guy below injecting once every 3 or 4 weeks and falling back to zero the last few days of the interval.  

 

image.png.04b13853b9f4cafe1a684ec6405dade2.png

 

10 day intervals has worked great for me over past 8 or so years.Yearly testing shows i am always at optimal levels each year

I have heard about injecting less but more frequent but personally my ass already hurts due to all the scar tissue

There is also another way of tiny 0.2 injecting into stomach fatty tissue, some claim it works better.

But as i said, for me what i am doing is working well, so can not be bothered messing with it, keeping in mind i also train 6 days a week

Posted
11 hours ago, Drew57 said:

You on it from body building or TRT?

What have you noticed ? I'm just turned 60 

TRT, though i also train 6 days a week

Since getting on it, more energy is the main difference, more alert, i am actually in a better shape than i was when i was younger.

Less mood swings, higher libido

Can not say better sleep but i do have injuries which prevent having good sleep

Posted
13 hours ago, Drew57 said:

You on it from body building or TRT?

What have you noticed ? I'm just turned 60 

Personally from my experience at 62 i do it for TRT but if you work out as well,you will achieve good results,fat will melt off and muscle gains are great,i have a better physique now at 62 than in my twenties,and a lot of girls will tell me that i have a good body,abs are showing,veins popping where ive never seen before,morning wood which used to be a distant memory, my libido is through the roof,it's all good from my experience,DYOR of course

Posted
7 hours ago, bck said:

TRT, though i also train 6 days a week

Since getting on it, more energy is the main difference, more alert, i am actually in a better shape than i was when i was younger.

Less mood swings, higher libido

Can not say better sleep but i do have injuries which prevent having good sleep

What age are you ?

Posted
5 hours ago, CamelToe said:

Personally from my experience at 62 i do it for TRT but if you work out as well,you will achieve good results,fat will melt off and muscle gains are great,i have a better physique now at 62 than in my twenties,and a lot of girls will tell me that i have a good body,abs are showing,veins popping where ive never seen before,morning wood which used to be a distant memory, my libido is through the roof,it's all good from my experience,DYOR of course

How much and what do you take,  what's your regime? 

Posted
17 hours ago, Drew57 said:

How much and what do you take,  what's your regime? 

1ml  Test Ethanate every 7 days and i workout usually twice a week on average,no strict regime

Posted
On 13/12/2023 at 03:57, SHTravel said:

@bck You may want to look into injecting smaller dosages on a more frequent basis, especially if you can self-administer.  Enanthate's half-life is 4.5 days, it should be eliminated from you body after 14 days.  250mg every 10 days is potentially causing some significant swings within that 10 days.  

Listen to your doctor, but also weigh that info against a secondary opinion or advice you seek out online (i.e. trust, but verify).  Many of the online experts these days are saying things like 20-60mg injected every three days or 100-120mg per week maximum is the sweet spot for improvement (i.e. Total Testosterone scores of 700) with minimal risk to your long-term health.  The thought process behind this is that larger dosages, further apart, tend to cause more aromatization (Testosterone conversion to Estradiol).  The higher your Estadiol, the greater need to bring in an Aromatose Inhibitor (e.g. Arimidex, Aromasin, etc.) which is extremely easy to take too much then bring your Estradiol numbers too low which open you up for an even greater risk for heart problems, weakened bones, etc. 

I posted this in another thread last week, but below is a chart to help you visualize injections at different times.  You definitely don't want to be the guy below injecting once every 3 or 4 weeks and falling back to zero the last few days of the interval. 

[...]

 

^ This.

You can play around with with SteroidPlotter yourself to see how much of a difference 3.5 vs 7/10 days makes.

Posted
8 hours ago, Shert said:

^ This.

You can play around with with SteroidPlotter yourself to see how much of a difference 3.5 vs 7/10 days makes.

yes in theory it is better, the reality is little more complicated. If you get on TRT you stay on it.

Only speaking in my case, even with 10 day intervals my ass has a huge problem with scar tissue, i administer myself, right handed so always the right side. If i was to double the injection, ie every 5 days instead of 10, scar tissue would be worse.

If one can alternate between the sides and inject into leg and shoulder, it would work out better.

but still after some years scar tissue would build up. Here we talking about TRT and older guys, not too many will dare to self administer and that also adds costs or finding someone to do it for you on regular basis

For bodybuilders is a different story, they do a cycle and then come off, giving time to heal, also bodybuilders train together with strict regime, easy to find someone to inject for you

TRT is not about achieving some gains but about keeping test levels in the mid to higher range, so even if effectiveness drops off on day 7-8-9 it does not make that much of a difference to your general well being

Posted (edited)

Everyone is different with this shit. 

I pop 125mg a week, my levels sit around 1000. I pop 250 a week I’m 1600 plus. 

on another note, I have been pinning my test sub q for the last year. No difference in levels, 27g 0.5 inch in the stomach easy as. 

Edited by Aussie Whoremonger
Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, bck said:

yes in theory it is better, the reality is little more complicated. If you get on TRT you stay on it.

Only speaking in my case, even with 10 day intervals my ass has a huge problem with scar tissue, i administer myself, right handed so always the right side. If i was to double the injection, ie every 5 days instead of 10, scar tissue would be worse.

If one can alternate between the sides and inject into leg and shoulder, it would work out better.

but still after some years scar tissue would build up. Here we talking about TRT and older guys, not too many will dare to self administer and that also adds costs or finding someone to do it for you on regular basis

For bodybuilders is a different story, they do a cycle and then come off, giving time to heal, also bodybuilders train together with strict regime, easy to find someone to inject for you

TRT is not about achieving some gains but about keeping test levels in the mid to higher range, so even if effectiveness drops off on day 7-8-9 it does not make that much of a difference to your general well being

I rotate delts, quads and glutes, left and right.

Agree that scar tissue build up can become an issue. I have a former bodybuilder friend who used to abuse steroids and has major issues with his glutes, to the point he can't train legs because it hurts too much (he's in his 50s).

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Posted
58 minutes ago, Aussie Whoremonger said:

Everyone is different with this shit. 

I pop 125mg a week, my levels sit around 1000. I pop 250 a week I’m 1600 plus. 

on another note, I have been pinning my test sub q for the last year. No difference in levels, 27g 0.5 inch in the stomach easy as. 

Same here: 100 mg / week, 2x week, keeps me around 1000, no AI needed (and I convert a lot).

Should give sub-q another go.

Posted

Pinning subq is a game changer for me.

27g needle, rotate body sites and sides between arse cheek, saddle bag, stomach (although I avoid stomach as most painful for me).

Gently lift and squeeze up a good bit of fat, you barely feel the needle going in, give the site a good rub after to dissipate the oil, and get on with your day.

I’ve found it only works well with small amounts, so I pin 3x per week but only 0.25ml. Any more and I get big painful lumps.

This keeps my levels bang on.

I use HCG too, to keep my balls from disappearing and it also seems to help keep my Estrogen under control.

My advice is not to start this shit until you’ve tried raise your T naturally, because once you start that’s it! And it is a pain in  the arse (literally sometimes)

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Is it easy to get prescriptions for TRT from dr Oliver. 
Im only 29 but in my early 20s went very hard with AAS/performance enhancing drugs and now my levels are very low, im regularly in Australia and Bangkok for work but my Australia docter will Not give me a prescribe TRT ?  

Posted
2 hours ago, Tatted_aussie said:

Is it easy to get prescriptions for TRT from dr Oliver. 
Im only 29 but in my early 20s went very hard with AAS/performance enhancing drugs and now my levels are very low, im regularly in Australia and Bangkok for work but my Australia docter will Not give me a prescribe TRT ?  

he will not give one, refused it to a mate who is triple your age,

Just an idea, may be get on Nibido, its 1 shot every 3 months. Can get a shot while in Thailand, then take 1 shot with you, and if you come over often, easy solution

Posted
12 hours ago, bck said:

he will not give one, refused it to a mate who is triple your age,

Just an idea, may be get on Nibido, its 1 shot every 3 months. Can get a shot while in Thailand, then take 1 shot with you, and if you come over often, easy solution

That sounds interesting. Do you have any experience with it? I could get it also back in my home country with a proper prescription.

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