UPDATE: Special team on hunt for merciless gunman who killed British ex-pat in Pattaya

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Pattaya — Chonburi Police Region 2 is hunting down a mysterious murderer who shot and killed a retired British engineer yesterday, January 5th. First our previous story: A retired British engineer was shot to death in Pattaya while traveling home last night, January 5th. The cause of the incident remains a mystery. Now for our […]

UPDATE: Special team on hunt for merciless gunman who killed British ex-pat in Pattaya
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[jocky king]

First Suspect is always a spouse . RIP 

[petermik]

9 minutes ago, jocky king said:

First Suspect is always a spouse . RIP 

My best mate here Neil and I should have been out with him tonight....just an ordinary bloke who never bothered anyone....he was not married to the lady she was his housekeeper only....what has happened I do not know RIP

[jocky king]

3 minutes ago, petermik said:

My best mate here Neil and I should have been out with him tonight....just an ordinary bloke who never bothered anyone....he was not married to the lady she was his housekeeper only....what has happened I do not know RIP

I’m sorry about your mate .  Good of you for saying that about him . RIP Neil

[stickyfingers]

Sad news but prob be about tarts or bahts being in Pattaya. Not good for Pattayas family image or retirement image as all over Fbook n news channels now.

RIP.

[mwebster2]

Hopefully the suspect is caught fast, I'd be quite cautious if I was in Patts right now until this is dealt with. 

[rog555]

13 minutes ago, mwebster2 said:

 I'd be quite cautious if I was in Patts right now until this is dealt with. 

Why ?

You fear a serial killer on loose ?

Maybe, but unlikely.

[rog555]

46 minutes ago, stickyfingers said:

Sad news but prob be about tarts or bahts being in Pattaya. Not good for Pattayas family image or retirement image as all over Fbook n news channels now.

RIP.

I think you are correct.  There is an explanation behind this.   I doubt its an untargetted shooting of a random old guy on a motocycle.

Possible, but in general that does not happen in Pattaya.  If it did happen, then 70 year olds would be exercising caution.

Edited January 6, 2023 by rog555

[Thomaz73]

26 minutes ago, rog555 said:

There is an explanation behind this

Agreed. There's almost certainly something behind this. Probably a lady somehow. Not that that makes it ok, of course. 

[keepitfun]

Plenty of special forces folks in Patts could join this team.

[petermik]

16 hours ago, rog555 said:

I think you are correct.  There is an explanation behind this.   I doubt its an untargetted shooting of a random old guy on a motocycle.

 

Wrong and totally out of order

16 hours ago, Thomaz73 said:

Agreed. There's almost certainly something behind this. Probably a lady somehow. Not that that makes it ok, of course. 

This morning the killer has turned himself in to the police and blamed it on a road rage incident......

R.I.P. my good friend Neil

[Thomaz73]

5 minutes ago, petermik said:

R.I.P. my good friend Neil

Sorry for your loss. I probably shouldn't have been speculating above. My apologies! 

[Farangkie]

Update:

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2023/01/07/update-police-identify-prime-suspect-in-murder-of-british-ex-pat-in-pattaya-area/

Edited January 7, 2023 by Farangkie

[ssidewineder]

Is there is any info on what exactly happened in this "road rage" incident?

[Phoenix Dave]

9 hours ago, petermik said:

Wrong and totally out of order

This morning the killer has turned himself in to the police and blamed it on a road rage incident......

R.I.P. my good friend Neil

I didn't have the impression that @rog555was indicating that the victim was at any fault, particularly as he was reportedly shot from behind while riding on scooter.

4 hours ago, merman said:

Probably drug related

Even if the shooter was not using drugs at the time, this has become the go-to excuse for illegal and evil behavior. The public outcry will be used by the usual crowd as additional reasons to stop legal weed sales.

 

I never met the man, RIP

Edited January 7, 2023 by Phoenix Dave

[rhodie]

 

[petermik]

18 hours ago, ssidewineder said:

Is there is any info on what exactly happened in this "road rage" incident?

As there were just two people involved who knew exactly what went on and one is now dead do you really think the killer is going to give the honest truth about it....what I do know from being directly involved with Neils sister back in the UK he is from a quite wealthy family here and although still in custody he is attempting financial compensation as a means of escaping justice.....my instinct says when the press interest dies down he will be granted bail and released to do what exactly I am not sure at this moment....I have my doubts to be honest if he will serve any prison sentence in the future with his connections....but I hope I,m wrong.

R.I.P. Neil.

[mwebster2]

6 hours ago, petermik said:

As there were just two people involved who knew exactly what went on and one is now dead do you really think the killer is going to give the honest truth about it....what I do know from being directly involved with Neils sister back in the UK he is from a quite wealthy family here and although still in custody he is attempting financial compensation as a means of escaping justice.....my instinct says when the press interest dies down he will be granted bail and released to do what exactly I am not sure at this moment....I have my doubts to be honest if he will serve any prison sentence in the future with his connections....but I hope I,m wrong.

R.I.P. Neil.

Hope this is not the case as it would be a terrible look for Thailand. 

[Fire Bar Matt]

16 minutes ago, mwebster2 said:

Hope this is not the case as it would be a terrible look for Thailand. 

Only if the news goes international. @petermik if the sister wants any sort of justice, and she rightly should, perhaps advise her to seek out the media in the UK. 
 

If the story remains one sided story from a connected assailant, as you pointed out, it will fade away with little local media coverage but if the UK media start sniffing around it becomes a bigger story and the fall out may damage tourism if justice is not seen to be served. 

[petermik]

1 hour ago, Dr No said:

Only if the news goes international. @petermik if the sister wants any sort of justice, and she rightly should, perhaps advise her to seek out the media in the UK. 
 

If the story remains one sided story from a connected assailant, as you pointed out, it will fade away with little local media coverage but if the UK media start sniffing around it becomes a bigger story and the fall out may damage tourism if justice is not seen to be served. 

Already heavily reported in the UK press.

[PepeLePew]

8 hours ago, mwebster2 said:

Hope this is not the case as it would be a terrible look for Thailand. 

They don't really care

 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkgg87/red-bull-heir-thailand-killing

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2020/07/27/new-evidence-no-basis-to-prosecute-red-bull-driver-boss-vorayuth/

[Driedeker]

https://thepattayanews.com/2023/01/07/update-gunman-surrenders-for-murdering-british-ex-pat-in-pattaya-area-blames-road-rage/

is this the same story.

[gazO]

Just read the Thai guys account of what happened. Shocking English guy used his horn, did he damage the car. As the argument escalated English guy backed off but sounds that was not enough for the Thai ( lose of face ) . Murdered him. If connected as mentioned. Money will talk. Thai culture.  I have personal knowledge of this up in the sticks. 

[rog555]

4 hours ago, gazO said:

Just read the Thai guys account of what happened. Shocking English guy used his horn, did he damage the car. As the argument escalated English guy backed off but sounds that was not enough for the Thai ( lose of face ) . Murdered him. If connected as mentioned. Money will talk. Thai culture.  I have personal knowledge of this up in the sticks. 

The whole incident is shocking and surprising.

A minor issue about not turning a car fast enough, horn being used 'loudly', quickly builds into direct face to face confrontation between a thai man and a retired falang.   Somehow it ends with retired guy being shot 4 times.

I hope the full details emerge and we come to understand the events.  And something is learnt from it.

I'm not far off 70 and plan a much longer life.   Guns in civilians hands seems a big issue in several countries.    Anger control, thai Face, all needs to be examined and progress made.

Sorry for the dead guy and those who knew him.

I hope something good emerges.  Not a gloss-over, forget style, outcome.

 

Edited January 9, 2023 by rog555