Region 2 police promise stricter enforcement of seven rules for entertainment venues, say no to later closing for World Cup

[The Pattaya News]

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Pattaya – Region 2 Police are using seven RULES to clean up and crackdown on Pattaya entertainment venues, including strict enforcement of legal closing times. Major General Nantawut Suwanlaong told the Pattaya News on November 18th, 2022, at a major meeting with the press, Pattaya City officials, and bar owners “In Banglamung district there are […]

Region 2 police promise stricter enforcement of seven rules for entertainment venues, say no to later closing for World Cup
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[Thomaz73]

Mind boggling stupidity. 

[simon6666]

"There are many incidents and chaos that have happened in Pattaya recently which have caused public nuisances."

Show us the statistics on crimes committed between 2am and 4am in the area then, boys, and how it compares to the rest of the 24-hour period.

All these people angry because they can't stay out to party. Businesses stunted, pissed off because they can't earn the good money that's traditionally spent during those hours.

Years prior to COVID none of this was of such concern so as to move on it.

What's changed?

Let's see the data you're basing these decisions on, so people can understand why you're doing it.

[Edge]

Anyone know what happened at Slutz AGoGo last night?

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2022 by Edge

[FROST MEDIC999]

2 minutes ago, Edge said:

 

 

Anyone know what happened at Slutz AGoGo last night?

 

Now I know 555 will PM you later 

[Farangkie]

22 minutes ago, Edge said:

Anyone know what happened at Slutz AGoGo last night?

 

 

 

It wasn't the police that raided them.

[Farangkie]

No under 20 year olds allowed to enter an entertainment venue now at all.

So that would mean any 18 and 19 year old girls, don't have a job in a bar anymore.

Edited November 19, 2022 by Farangkie

[Farangkie]

Number 8 on the list, should be, cracking down on the amount of really young kids, and babies that should be in a bed at 2am, but they're not.

Instead they're being dragged around the bars by their mothers, trying to sell tourists crap like flowers or gum or some other shit that nobody wants, and the police choose to completely ignore it. Makes me furious every time I see it.

 

[simon6666]

26 minutes ago, stickyfingers said:

Lots of car and motorbike accidents n fatalities happen early hours remember as many try to drive home pissed up n Thailand has 1 of the worst RTA statistics of anywhere. 

Did you read the article? Nothing was mentioned along those lines.

Besides, the majority of the road stuff - the peak of it - both alcohol-induced and otherwise, happens much earlier than that.

This is what he said:

""Pattaya must be clear of underage users at entertainment venues, human trafficking, weapons, drugs, and overstaying foreigners.” Nantawut added."

Also:

"There are many incidents and chaos that have happened in Pattaya recently which have caused public nuisances."

They're not talking about road accidents.

Sounds more like cops are sick of dealing with drunkards - fights, robberies, that sort of thing - with a little bit of posturing about image (national and international) thrown in.

[simon6666]

1 hour ago, Farangkie said:

No under 20 year olds allowed to enter an entertainment venue now at all.

So that would mean any 18 and 19 year old girls, don't have a job in a bar anymore.

Technically read, yeah, although I assume the spirit of that is to avoid underage drinking.

I thought bars tended to avoid employing under-20 girls anyway. Not strictly, but as a bit of a general thing in order to avoid trouble when it came to the distinction between serving and drinking alcohol.

Could be wrong. Maybe bar owners/managers could clarify.

[Farangkie]

11 minutes ago, simon6666 said:

 

I thought bars tended to avoid employing under-20 girls anyway. 

There are 18 and 19 y.o girls working in the bars, I’ve bar fined quite a few of them in the last few months.

[Farangkie]

18 minutes ago, simon6666 said:

Technically read, yeah, although I assume the spirit of that is to avoid underage drinking.

I thought bars tended to avoid employing under-20 girls anyway. Not strictly, but as a bit of a general thing in order to avoid trouble when it came to the distinction between serving and drinking alcohol.

Could be wrong. Maybe bar owners/managers could clarify.

You’re correct in using the word technically, it will be up to the individual bar owners, whether they want to test the new directive or not.

[simon6666]

4 minutes ago, Farangkie said:

There are 18 and 19 y.o girls working in the bars, I’ve bar fined quite a few of them in the last few months.

Do you feel that a tendency away from something indicates elimination?

If I say I have a tendency towards choosing apples over oranges, have I just said I don't eat oranges? Probably not, right?

That's why I used that phrasing, because that's what it means.

If I meant they didn't hire them, that's what I would have said. Some obviously do.

 

As stated, bar managers/owners would be best-placed to comment on this. It's what I've both been told and heard from managers.

STs in-house not as big a deal, but there's talk that a lot of hotels have policies against having under 20s as well, which would be a PITA to get back her back to yours and they won't let her in - so it's not just the alcohol that might play a part in the decision.

[Farangkie]

Giant electronic billboard outside As Friends in LK

First time I’ve ever seen anything like this.

 

Edited November 19, 2022 by Farangkie

[simon6666]

19 minutes ago, Farangkie said:

it will be up to the individual bar owners, whether they want to test the new directive or not.

No, it's not just that.

It's whether the directive is intended in the way that you've taken it.

They may have no intention at all to remove any under-20 girl from their job in a bar.

Like most of the RULES and laws that are announced to be enforced, that's an area that would need to be clarified.

[petehoax]

2 hours ago, stickyfingers said:

Lots of car and motorbike accidents n fatalities happen early hours remember as many try to drive home pissed up n Thailand has 1 of the worst RTA statistics of anywhere. 

then they should enforce helmet wearing on bikes and have regular DUI check points at night (and check & fine all thais and farang!). that's easy enough to solve. 

restricting the closing times will only have a small influence on drunk driving. as the covid years have shown, people simply start drinking earlier if everything has to close at midnight. 

[Edge]

3 hours ago, Farangkie said:

It wasn't the police that raided them.

 

I thought I saw a couple of uniform type shirts....the rest could've been Banglamung urologists I suppose. 

[Soi7]

While at Babydolls The police told us 18 YO was ok for working. The Army said had to be 20 so.......................

[Edge]

4 minutes ago, Soi7 said:

While at Babydolls The police told us 18 YO was ok for working. The Army said had to be 20 so.......................

As you suggest, there used to be lots of 18 and 19 year olds in GoGos (as the R.les appear to be)..
Then the Army took control and said it was 20 to be in the bar, so GoGos which wanted to keep out of trouble complied re' workers and did ID checks on Thai guests (for a while).
The Army seems to be less involved these days (?) but it seems the BiB are sticking with that interpretation ?

[Shuggy]

Several posts removed. 

A reminder of the RULES folks.

[Billy Shears]

Maybe you guys should be pissed off at qatar for starting football games at 10pm local qatar time.

I mean who does that? 

[Pheat]

Any one know if the bars in Nana Bangkok be open till 4.00am?

[Thomaz73]

5 minutes ago, Pheat said:

Any one know if the bars in Nana Bangkok be open till 4.00am?

Almost certainly not. Hopefully a sensible decision will be made on the 29th. 

[Sloracer]

6 minutes ago, WhiteThai said:

Maybe you guys should be pissed off at qatar for starting football games at 10pm local qatar time.

I mean who does that? 

I believe it's that time so they don't play 40c + degree heat.

[Greg_B]

In the past when this was being enforced, you could take your passport and have a small laminated copy made at most Travel Agencies. They also made a copy of your entry stamp. 

It's better than carrying your passport around and I was once checked and it was acceptable to the BIB