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Proof of Onward Travel--How to Avoid Problems?

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expatdude

I've got a friend who travels out here on one-way tickets, spends some time in SE Asia, then gets a ticket back home. On this trip he got hassled a bit by the airline when he was coming, though they allowed him to come and he had no problems getting a 30-day visa exemption when he got here. Currently he's in Cambodia and is flying back to Thailand soon. He's worried about getting hassled by either the airline or Thai immigration because he still doesn't have a flight home.

He's willing to get a ticket home before he comes to avoid any problems, but I'm wondering if anyone knows any techniques to avoid this so he can leave things more open and leisurely for his return. I see there are places online that will sell a ticket for maybe $7 US, are they any good? Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance for any expertise.

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Crushed

I was told to buy an onwards ticket at the Air Asia check-in counter in Hong Kong last week.  I bought a flight from Bangkok to KL right there and then for around US$60.  I didn't have time to search for flights I could cancel but maybe your friend does!

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Crushed
36 minutes ago, Crushed said:

I was told to buy an onwards ticket at the Air Asia check-in counter in Hong Kong last week.  I bought a flight from Bangkok to KL right there and then for around US$60.  I didn't have time to search for flights I could cancel but maybe your friend does!

I meant cancel and get a refund.

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talung66

You can make a booking on expedia and take the free cancellation option tab or there are websites that do onward ticket booking for around $15 USD found that info in another thread.

He should have done what i am going to do in pattaya when he was there.

Make  a booking for  visa run  the charge should be minimal  i will be  going to go to 5 star visa and make one but i will end up using it so ill pay in full.

Maybe even  a hotel booking in malaysia will be ok and say your going there by land then use the free cancellation 

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jaynewcastle

POOT (proof of onward travel) as usually required by the airline (generally long haul flights, though I have been asked on Air Asia flights the last couple of years for POOT too), is met only by a flight ticket out of Thailand within 30 days of arrival.

I am surprised your friend has been allowed to travel with just a single flight, and no POOT or visa in place before flying. Which country are they flying from and which airline are they using ?

Bus, train & ferry tickets are not POOT, nor are hotel bookings in other countries or flights departing from other countries at a later date

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Daz Manc

There are a few websites specialising  in exactly this problem, you can buy an onward tickey from them for USD 12, and it is Real and checkable

onwardticket.com

onewayfly.com

onwardticketvisa.com

aironwardticket.com

 

That should sort out the problem
Obviously you cannot actually use the ticket at that price, but if Immigration check it, it does really exist.

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logboy

Or buy a bus ticket from Bangkok to Siem Reap about 700 - 800 BHT.

3 years ago I used a bus ticket as proof for onward travel, no problem at check-in.

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K...

Just get a cheap throw away ticket from AirAsia

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talung66
3 hours ago, jaynewcastle said:

Bus, train & ferry tickets are not POOT, nor are hotel bookings in other countries or flights departing from other countries at a later date

i gather your replying to my suggestion below thai embassy website.image.thumb.png.bc562c45d727b89513f7791fe9809ef1.png

+ hotel is a suggestion to blag your way on plane here is an other 

the op is asking for suggestion here is another one  https://aironwardticket.com/#how-it-works from similar thread.

or the op mate can just get a SETV in cambodia there heaps on options without wasting money on a plane ticket you dont use. 

 

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talung66
11 hours ago, expatdude said:

I've got a friend who travels out here on one-way tickets, spends some time in SE Asia, then gets a ticket back home. On this trip he got hassled a bit by the airline when he was coming, though they allowed him to come and he had no problems getting a 30-day visa exemption when he got here. Currently he's in Cambodia and is flying back to Thailand soon. He's worried about getting hassled by either the airline or Thai immigration because he still doesn't have a flight home.

He's willing to get a ticket home before he comes to avoid any problems, but I'm wondering if anyone knows any techniques to avoid this so he can leave things more open and leisurely for his return. I see there are places online that will sell a ticket for maybe $7 US, are they any good? Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance for any expertise.

End the drama tell him to get a SETV in cambodia after that no issue.

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Kandinski

Book a flight with any carrier who has a free cancellation policy - Print itinerary - Cancel ticket - Good to go
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wadman
13 minutes ago, Kandinski said:

Book a flight with any carrier who has a free cancellation policy - Print itinerary - Cancel ticket - Good to go
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How does this cancel for free work?  Do they charge your credit card and then refund you (after God knows how long), or do they not charge your credit card at all?

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Kandinski
24 minutes ago, wadman said:

How does this cancel for free work?  Do they charge your credit card and then refund you (after God knows how long), or do they not charge your credit card at all?

Yes, they charge your CC and, typically, you'll get the refund back within 24 hours

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dayo202

get a bus ticket online from Udon Thani to Laos Vientiane, printout the ticket for less than 300B.

No need to book a flight out of Thailand 

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bobblobfish
19 hours ago, expatdude said:

I see there are places online that will sell a ticket for maybe $7 US, are they any good?

All manner of fake or semi-legit tickets are good enough for a visa application, since the worst thing they can do is reject you.

However, I wouldn't dare present one to an immigration officer on entry, since there could be serious consequences if they check, and checking is trivial, just go to the airline website and enter a code.

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wadman
2 minutes ago, bobblobfish said:

All manner of fake or semi-legit tickets are good enough for a visa application, since the worst thing they can do is reject you.

However, I wouldn't dare present one to an immigration officer on entry, since there could be serious consequences if they check, and checking is trivial, just go to the airline website and enter a code.

These websites book a real (although temporary) ticket for you.  I have used them many times, been asked a number of times (by the check-in agent).  On a few occasions, the check-in agent has looked at the ticket, and then tapped away on his computer, possibly checking the ticket.  There has never been any problems.

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mr21
7 hours ago, Kandinski said:

Yes, they charge your CC and, typically, you'll get the refund back within 24 hours

Expedia has been great in the past with quick refunds after cancelling within 24 hours of booking flights. Off topic but last year I had to return home from the Philippines 2 weeks earlier than my return ticket and Expedia only charged me $40 to change the flight. 

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Kane137

It is the responsibility of the airline you are departing the country with to ask why you only have a one-way ticket and then ask for evidence of onward travel. This has happened to me on the past 3 occasions I have flown from the UK - with differing airlines and differing airports - to Thailand.

Immigration at the arriving country have never asked me for evidence of onward travel (or funds etc.). That isn't to say it wouldn't happen; I think they'd need real reason to start looking into that, such as if you're doing multiple, long stay trips back-to-back on waivers and tourist visas. 

As many have suggested, the best course of action is to have a inexpensive onward ticket already booked. There's no need to buy expensive flights with Air Asia etc.; you can get bus tickets out of Thailand for £10-odd.

There are also the onward ticket services as you mentioned. Those are normally restricted to certain periods of time and you end up paying close to the aforementioned bus ticket option anyway.

6 hours ago, wadman said:

These websites book a real (although temporary) ticket for you.  I have used them many times, been asked a number of times (by the check-in agent).  On a few occasions, the check-in agent has looked at the ticket, and then tapped away on his computer, possibly checking the ticket.  There has never been any problems.

On the occasions the agent has started typing on their computer, I've asked them what they're doing. They've replied saying they're simple adding a note on the system to say they've seen evidence of a onward ticket. An agent at a London airport, for example, will never have access to Air Asia's internal system in Kuala Lumpur. At most they can do a search on the airline's website to see such a flight, date and time actually exists.  

 

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wadman
2 hours ago, Kane137 said:

On the occasions the agent has started typing on their computer, I've asked them what they're doing. They've replied saying they're simple adding a note on the system to say they've seen evidence of a onward ticket. An agent at a London airport, for example, will never have access to Air Asia's internal system in Kuala Lumpur. At most they can do a search on the airline's website to see such a flight, date and time actually exists.  

 

That onward ticket will have a booking reference number on it.  Couple that with your name, and you/the check-in agent can just go to that airline's website, and lookup whether that person is indeed booked on that flight.

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Ru4Real
18 minutes ago, wadman said:

That onward ticket will have a booking reference number on it.  Couple that with your name, and you/the check-in agent can just go to that airline's website, and lookup whether that person is indeed booked on that flight.

Not sure about that, privacy legislation wouldn't allow it IMO.

Had issues with my mums flights one time (wasn't sure if she made a connecting flight due to delays) no one at the airport would confirm either way due to "privacy and security issues" even though I was there at the airport, in their face as it where, showing our connection (as in being her son) and a copy of her itinerary and messages about the flight issues. All they would tell us was the flight was in the air and due to arrive a couple of hours late.

Obviously hell of a difference between an individual and a government agency but ...

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wadman
7 minutes ago, Ru4Real said:

Not sure about that, privacy legislation wouldn't allow it IMO.

Had issues with my mums flights one time (wasn't sure if she made a connecting flight due to delays) no one at the airport would confirm either way due to "privacy and security issues" even though I was there at the airport, in their face as it where, showing our connection (as in being her son) and a copy of her itinerary and messages about the flight issues. All they would tell us was the flight was in the air and due to arrive a couple of hours late.

This is the ticket that I got from one of those onward ticket services last year.  I printed this out, and showed it to the check-in agent.  You can see the Reservation code and ticket number on it.  It also has my name on it, under "prepared for" (it's blacked out for obvious reasons).

With those pieces of info, the check-in agent could have gotten onto the Vietnam airlines websites and checked if the ticket was real.  Dunno whether he did, he looked at it, punched a few things in his computer, but I didn't ask him what he was doing.

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pimnoinok

i booked a one way on nok air to vietnam for around 1000 baht.  nobody asked about my onward ticket, but it was cheap peace of mind

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mr joshua

While in the airport about to hand my bags over I basically open the Expedia app and book a flight, screenshot the confirmation n emails then cancel it and get the refund

worked for me in thailand and philippines 

 

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Jarrod2518

I had proof of onward travel issues with Thai Air in Sydney. I had more than US$2000 cash with me. I  had earlier checked on the Thai Immigration Website it was an  acceptable option.  Worked for me. 

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