internet speed

[Kahoy]

16 minutes ago, eXplosief said:

If you're going to change provider, I suggest you find someone preferably in your area that already uses this provider and test first. 

My knowledge of providers in Thailand is pretty outdated, but a few years ago CAT was indeed one of the providers that offered the best connectivity to US based servers.

My livelihood depends on solid, reliable internet. CAT is still the best imo. Only a brief outage a couple of times in the past year. One time, something got broken and they fixed it that day.

[CyberPro]

17 hours ago, Kahoy said:

My livelihood depends on solid, reliable internet. CAT is still the best imo. Only a brief outage a couple of times in the past year. One time, something got broken and they fixed it that day.

What is your backup connectivity method during those downtimes? Thanks for the info. 

[Spellforce]

@CyberPro

With True Internet, when there is one outage you can call the call center and they'll give you free unlimited 4G for 24H (then I launch an hotspot app on my smartphone to share internet via wifi).

[English rose]

On 19/08/2019 at 13:56, forcebwithu said:

That's probably the reason right there, you're sharing your connection with multiple other users. If you and they are all streaming porn at the same time, you're going to run into buffering issues. 4G service is pretty good now. Suggest getting a good data plan for your phone and then using your phone as a hotspot for your own personal internet connection.

Each room would only need 10 mbps (which i have) for sufficient porn watching..as regards the phone if i was to leave the bar then no hotspot.

On 19/08/2019 at 14:00, Kahoy said:

20 metres from router to an android box? You probably also want to upgrade to cat 6.

My initial thought was too long a cable so i checked..90-100 mts wouldnt be a problem apparently

On 19/08/2019 at 15:27, Spellforce said:

- First go to https://www.speedtest.net/

and tell us what is your real upload speed ? (try do to 2 tests: one to one server in Bangkok and another to the country where your streaming server is located)

- Don't forget that if your camera is near to your WIFI router (a few meter without obstacles), you'll have a better speed with 5GHz rather than 2,4GHz

- As someone asked you before, how do you stream ? The server maybe is the issue, not your connection. Have you tried to stream on Youtube, Twitch or Mixer ?

- True has a new promotion 1,000 mbps for 900 

I went to true this morning to see what they had and this seemed to be their best package;

As you said 999 for 1gbps/100 discounted down 200 baht = 799 + vat approx 850..i currently pay tot 750 for 200/200..the package included an android box with air mouse and 5gb per month for my phone...new installation of fibre optic and new router in my office which will feed the other 4 routers at a cost of 850 baht down from 2000, hopefully tomorrow in time for the 3rd test..if this doesn't fix it you all might hear a lot of swearing and screaming and then i will know its an app issue.

Watch this space.

Alan.

[JAI DEE MAK]

59 minutes ago, English rose said:

Each room would only need 10 mbps (which i have) for sufficient porn watching..as regards the phone if i was to leave the bar then no hotspot.

My initial thought was too long a cable so i checked..90-100 mts wouldnt be a problem apparently

I went to true this morning to see what they had and this seemed to be their best package;

As you said 999 for 1gbps/100 discounted down 200 baht = 799 + vat approx 850..i currently pay tot 750 for 200/200..the package included an android box with air mouse and 5gb per month for my phone...new installation of fibre optic and new router in my office which will feed the other 4 routers at a cost of 850 baht down from 2000, hopefully tomorrow in time for the 3rd test..if this doesn't fix it you all might hear a lot of swearing and screaming and then i will know its an app issue.

Watch this space.

Alan.

You need to use Cat 6 cables however there are many fake Cat 6 sold in Thailand if its very cheep ask your self why.

Also when you test the speed what is the ( Ping/ms ) this will tell you a lot about your connection you can goggol it.

I have 3BB fibre optic at home its blistering fast and a ping of 2 is almost unheard of considering the junction box is 1k away.

JDM

[English rose]

12 minutes ago, JAI DEE MAK said:

You need to use Cat 6 cables however there are many fake Cat 6 sold in Thailand if its very cheep ask your self why.

Also when you test the speed what is the ( Ping ) this will tell you a lot about your connection you can goggol it.

JDM

thanks for that jdm, i do have cat5e, would that be sufficient? i will however endeavour to check if this is real or copy, as regards the 'ping' i will get the tech guy to check it...i do have a speed test app on my android and as i said before i constantly have 90-130 but i'm guessing this is speed and not 'ping' or are they the same same but different?

Cheers

Alan.

[English rose]

17 minutes ago, JAI DEE MAK said:

You need to use Cat 6 cables however there are many fake Cat 6 sold in Thailand if its very cheep ask your self why.

Also when you test the speed what is the ( Ping/ms ) this will tell you a lot about your connection you can goggol it.

I have 3BB fibre optic at home its blistering fast and a ping of 2 is almost unheard of considering the junction box is 1k away.

JDM

Well...it seems mine is absolute shite compared to yours..this is my laptop off the wifi.

 

[English rose]

And this was taken a minutes later, as you can see the fluctuations are considerable.

[taylor1975]

Getting 50mbps is incredibly fast for sport streaming. Way more than you need.

I think you're focusing on the wrong problem.

What source are you using to get the sport? Free kodi app things? peer to peer streaming? 

[J.D.Be.]

28 minutes ago, English rose said:

thanks for that jdm, i do have cat5e, would that be sufficient? i will however endeavour to check if this is real or copy, as regards the 'ping' i will get the tech guy to check it...i do have a speed test app on my android and as i said before i constantly have 90-130 but i'm guessing this is speed and not 'ping' or are they the same same but different?

Cheers

Alan.

Cat 5e is sufficient for 1Gb if the length off the cable is not to long. Currently using an old 25 meter Cat 5e cable to connect my garage to the router and i have full speed 1Gb when doing file transfer to my NAS.

[English rose]

43 minutes ago, taylor1975 said:

Getting 50mbps is incredibly fast for sport streaming. Way more than you need.

I think you're focusing on the wrong problem.

What source are you using to get the sport? Free kodi app things? peer to peer streaming? 

I'm using a sports app called live net tv...i have had the thought of deleting this and reloading it, if someone has a better app i would appreciate the heads up...i did consider venom but thats 3k a years subscription.

35 minutes ago, J.D.Be. said:

Cat 5e is sufficient for 1Gb if the length off the cable is not to long. Currently using an old 25 meter Cat 5e cable to connect my garage to the router and i have full speed 1Gb when doing file transfer to my NAS.

the cable is 20mts and only 2 months old, before that i was using the wifi and it was worse than it is now!!!!

[Kahoy]

3 minutes ago, English rose said:

I'm using a sports app called live net tv...

This is your problem I think. I have buffering issues with most of these apps. I don't watch sports but the news channelsa re terrible. To get any reliable speed out of internet TV you really need to be paying a subscription. The old adage...

[taylor1975]

23 minutes ago, English rose said:

I'm using a sports app called live net tv...i have had the thought of deleting this and reloading it, if someone has a better app i would appreciate the heads up...i did consider venom but thats 3k a years subscription.

lol at the tech geeks, not seeing the wood for the trees!

these free streams are not wholly dependent on your wifi speed. Above maybe 10mbps you will see no difference, it will still buffer. This is your problem, not an ethernet cable lol.

[English rose]

1 minute ago, taylor1975 said:

lol at the tech geeks, not seeing the wood for the trees!

these free streams are not wholly dependent on your wifi speed. Above maybe 10mbps you will see no difference, it will still buffer. This is your problem, not an ethernet cable lol.

thanks but not what i wanted to hear...

[taylor1975]

2 minutes ago, English rose said:

thanks but not what i wanted to hear...

Look for a thread by BM footymadstreams ....he uses dedicated servers for sport. Thats what you need.

[English rose]

Just now, taylor1975 said:

Look for a thread by BM footymadstreams ....he uses dedicated servers for sport. Thats what you need.

thanks..he's actually one of my links, i think...

[dirkdeee]

Kahoy and Taylor have nailed this, the problem is with the source which is free.  They will always buffer.  Most paid IPTV services will run $5-$10 a month and will have far less strain on the servers.  This will eliminate most buffering, though the amount differs from service to service.  You're not on contract so if a particular service is no good, move on to another.  Just make sure you only pay month to month not lump sum in advance.

I'll throw out a recommendation for Helix(UK based?) which is approx. $10/mth and also has a feature called "catch-up", the ability to watch a program after the fact.  So for me North American Sports is on in the morning in Thailand and I'd rather watch sports either during the heat of the day or early evening.  I can watch games whenever I want up to 4 days after it aired.  Most IPTV services don't have catch-up or  is very limited.

[dave01]

For the cricket if using livenet tv... DON'T use the UK links.  Go across the top menu to the Australian section and use either Channel 9 or GEM... It depends if there is NRL games on, which channel the cricket will be on.. these are pretty stable... most evenings they will run non stop for the full day's play. Every now and then (rarely) they buffer, but not to any great extent. I don't know why they are good, but they are far better than Sky Cricket or Main Event.. and good quality.  

I was a True TV and net customer on the old cable.  They changed us over for free to fibre. We have full platinum TV and unlimited net for about 2.6K per month. EPL is on True,  so that is the main reason for the TV...  

Good luck with it

[English rose]

well, did anyone hear me scream?.....true came yesterday and installed my kick ass new 1gbms router....what a load of shite, still got the buffering and in fact my speed is probably slower than when I had 200/200,how can that be???? now it is for certain the app's I'm running although the other guys using the same app's are not have the same issues.

 

Thanks to dirkdeee and dave01...I have been watching sports on the sky streams and it's those that have the problems and yes, I did find the cricket on gem or 9 also on willow, true does have the epl so at least some people will be happy.

 

Cheers to all the advise guys.

ER

 

 

[Spellforce]

@English rose

According to your tests, the issue was the server and not your internet speed.

I dont know what sport chanel do you want to receive ? You'll always have buffering issues if you are using a free service.

You have many options in Thailand:

- True Move H (can be streamed in 4K) http://truevisionsgroup.truecorp.co.th/channellineup_web/5

- Bein Sport Thailand https://connect-th.beinsports.com/en

- Thai IPTV for Android http://www.dreamboxt.com

The cheapest way is the thai IPTV, but 1 subscrption works for only 1 android box. The quality is not as good as True Move H & Bein Sport, but no buffering and you'll have most sport chanels !

You can test it first, 250 bahts for 30 days. If it works fine, you can even choose a subcription for life ! (that's what I did).

 

[Spellforce]

@English rose

Give me the name of the chanel you want to watch and I'll do a test for you with the thai iptv.

 

[English rose]

1 hour ago, Spellforce said:

@English rose

Give me the name of the chanel you want to watch and I'll do a test for you with the thai iptv.

 

Hi and thanks for the information, it's really just the cricket and F1 at the moment, EPL is sorted with the true package.

Cheers

Alan.