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What's the point of going to a Gogo Bar Now ?

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malibu51

So, what is the point of going to a Gogo Bar now.

Up to a few years ago, it used to be that the best talent in Bangkok and Pattaya was in the Gogos on Walking Street.  Every bar had a plethora of happy beauties vying for your attention.

The routine was simple.  Get your 60 baht beer. Sit back in your second row seat and stare at the girl on stage that you liked. Often she would smile back and after her time onstage she would sit down with you.  The test was if she asked for a drink and if not, after a while you would buy her one. That confirmed she was really interested in you.  It was a watered down drink that she would sip.  You could maintain high standards for  chemistry, and not put up with that faked standard stuff. Often she would ask if she could come home with you.  She would act delighted and disappear in the back to change. Yes, her friends would come over and ask for a drink and sometimes you would get one for them because it would be remembered when you would return another time.  You would be told you are Jai Dee, have a good heart. The Bar Fine at most was 400 baht and you would take the girl for a short time, sometimes around 800 baht.  The other girls would give her congratulations with that finger in palm thing.  She held your hand as you walked to your motorbike and held on tight as you winded your way back to the hotel.  There was no hurry up, reo reo, in fact it was take your time, cha cha.  Often she would want to stay the night for a small increase and stay beyond 9 am and their could be real affection.  Often you had a real GF, girl friend, experience.  Going with a hooker in western society offers none of this.

Because the experience was relatively inexpensive, you could do this easily on a budget every other day.  BTW, there was a lot of talent in Beach Road in Pattaya or on Sukhumvit in Bangkok.  There was Thermae, with freelancers that were fresh from the farm.  There were all nude bars in Soi Cowboy.  There were lesbian shows at Mandarin.  There were amazing extravaganzas at Angel Witch.  There were nude dancers in the round at Carousel.  There were amazingly beautiful and fresh girls at Club Boeshe. Hell Club, later Devils Den in Pattaya, had awe inspiring girls that you would take two at a time.  There was a guarantee that you would have an amazing experience and you did !  For 4200 overnight, you had an heavenly GF experience in every way .  The girls were not demanding and it often led to travels outside of Bangkok and Pattaya to Koh Samui or Korat or at least to spend the day in Koh Larn. 

If you were an expat, you would meet girls everywhere and hire them as your geek.  You would have several different girls come to your condo, overnight, during the week for about 500 baht.  Soi 6 had the most talent on one street in the world and the girls were wild !  Soi 2 had Class Room, Soi 7 and Soi 8 had Beer Bars with girls that were actually quite hot !  You could wake up early, at your hotel on Soi 2 and see what talent was leaving at 6:30 am.  And by approaching them, you could often get their number so after their shift ended on Walking Street they would come to your room with no bar fine. Why not just spend time at the bus station seeing what talent is getting off the bus.  Just a little thai, Banai cap , where are you going, and you have a number. Go to Tuk Com in Pattaya, and look for a girl with tattoos, and find out she is a dancer and off you go.  Think that the Coyote Girls are unavailable, with a little effort and you had their number too. There were hotels like the VAULT.  Michael took you into his confidence. IF  you were not having a good time, he would take you out to unknown bars and find you a double in their dressing room.  Then girls know girls.  In the west a fix up is usually a disaster.  Not so in Old Thailand, the cousin, the girl friend, the acquaintance all were cute, somehow. Naglua and Jomtien, although out of the way and undiscovered bars and beer bars that had many diamonds in the rough.  I could go on and on about how good it used to be, really not that long ago.

It used to be the only mistake you could make on a holiday in Thailand was to stay home.  You don't have game ?  Youre not attractive ?  Your not Japanese ?  It didn't matter.  Just get out there and you WILL find what you are looking for !

So, what is on offer, now, in the Land of Smiles ?  I call it False Smiles.

Gogo Bars on Walking Street have minimal talent, a lot of fatties, and poor attitude abounds. If you are anything other than Japanese, you are ignored, unless they can press you into getting a Lady Drink.  Its no longer a watered down drink that they will sip and sit by you.  Now its a shot which they down quickly and press you to get another.  Did you ask how much ?  Now quite expensive and often double your drink.  And your drink is expensive too. You will be pestered non stop by the mamasans, the waitresses, and her friends to buy them a drink as well. BTW, they have no interest in going home with you unless you are Japanese.  They make more money now with lady drinks, in fact the bar prefers they not leave because  of the dearth of talent available.  To press my point about the decline of talent, take a hard look at what guys are settling for in the photo section, compared to what was there a mere three years ago. The amazing bars are gone. No amazing shows anymore either. Thermae girls only notice Asian men The Vault is gone too, You want a Girl Friend experience, better try Thai Friendly or take a Free Lancer. For 4000 to 5000 baht, you now get a plastic experience or a star fish. You might as well stay home for that expense.

Why do the Japanese fare so well ?  Money number one, short dick number two, and  really short time.  I understand the girls point of view, and good for them.  Its just a shame that the best way of getting high end talent with a Girl Friend experience for a reasonable cost in Bangkok or Pattaya, no longer is on offer in the GOGO BARS.

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malibu51

 

Phooy on the NightWish Group for making what used to be amazing, now a sterile experience !  Just try their  places and see if you agree !

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dingbat22
17 minutes ago, malibu51 said:

So, what is the point of going to a Gogo Bar now.

 

Why do the Japanese fare so well ?  Money number one, short dick number two, and  really short time.  I understand the girls point of view, and good for them.  Its just a shame that the best way of getting high end talent with a Girl Friend experience for a reasonable cost in Bangkok or Pattaya, no longer is on offer in the GOGO BARS.

Oh Dear, You brought back all the good time memories I have of LoS, Everything you wrote about is what I miss today in a nutshell Those were the days, we thought would never end, we would drink and fuck all night long and still have change left from 2000 baht that we got for £25..... Times have changed, BKK  and Pattaya are only a shadow of what you and I remember....Happy days

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dingbat22
17 minutes ago, malibu51 said:

 

Phooy on the NightWish Group for making what used to be amazing, now a sterile experience !  Just try their  places and see if you agree !

I have, and I agree with you.....but I am told thats progress........

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Joeg

I see a lot of nightwish posts and I can honestly say that I haven't been in any of the groups bars yet but have some girls on my to do list from there this next time. From what I gather, they seem to have a quality business model as they seem to be expanding quite a bit. 

 

What makes their business model successful? 

What makes them be a sterile experience? 

Asking because I genuinely don't know as I have never been. 

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K...

I really feel for the guys that are unable to enjoy themselves whilst in Pattaya, too busy moaning to have fun I guess. 

:wink:

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Komando
Posted (edited)

I'm glad I experienced the Pattaya the O.P. writes of.  Yes, what he says is true.  Pattaya used to be an adult male's heaven!!!

 

Now it is a commercial hustle.  Go-Go bar girls are NOT worth the prices they ask nor are the ridiculously high bar fines for LOW QUALITY girls.  I refuse to spend money in a Go-Go bar anymore.  The experience these days and nights is nothing like it was the first time I visited Pattaya in 2007.  Bar fines then were only 600 baht in a Go-Go.  Short time 1,000 baht.  Long time for 1,500 baht.  There were PLENTY of GREAT looking girls all over town!!! Girls did not have smart phones then either.

 

What goes on today is complete BULLSHIT compared to what Pattaya was 10 years ago. 

 

It is not even close...

Edited by Komando

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Essexman1961

Seriously; when are these prices from ? 60 baht beer etc?

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REAR_ENTRY

Also a bit off topic but something I'd like to add.

Bar fines in top end gogos in bangkok are a lot cheaper than your sapphires and whatsups on Walking Street

Can't remember being asked to pay more than 600b in any agogo in nana or patpong for a bar fine. In pattaya you'll get quoted almost double that before midnight even in the lamest of agogo. 

But fuck it once I'm drunk I'll pay it 555

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udontony
3 minutes ago, Essexman1961 said:

Seriously; when are these prices from ? 60 baht beer etc?

Draft beer in gogos early in the evening, it was not long ago you could get these prices.

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LeoTex
Posted (edited)

Based on the OP title of the thread, my point on going a gogo bar now is to view sexy looking girls scantly dressed and buy an overprice drink.

Not sure what the OP second posting about the NightWish Groups has to do the gogo's.

 

LeoTex

Edited by LeoTex

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England man

back in my hay day 2004. barfine was 500 bht and I could get girls 1000 bht long time.

I still go in them to have a flirt and feel with the girls. I don't mind buying a couple of lady drinks but I don't barfine from them. I just get freelancer from a disco.

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dingbat22
19 minutes ago, K... said:

I really feel for the guys that are unable to enjoy themselves whilst in Pattaya, too busy moaning to have fun I guess. 

:wink:

Its a case of "If you have never experienced, something I can never miss it " What we older mongers of today experienced in Pattaya and BKK is totally off the scale of what your imagination could possibly comprehend compared to today's pattaya... Back then it did not matter if you was a younger or older monger... We all experienced the same......................    

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birdhaus

I don't go to go-go's every night.
The WS ones are all 3000 ST and BF's are crazy.
So my method is the side soi's off WS. And they're really no better in terms of pricing.
So I treat gogo's like a steak dinner. You can't eat a steak everyday. So I space it out over a week, 2-3,(sometimes 4) visits to WS per week, I always avoid Fridays and Saturday nights. a
And the rest of my weekdays and nights I do this.

Beer bars and Massage shops are my main diet of punting.

I personally don't bother with Soi 6. The business model is the same across the entire street with varying degrees of quality. It's over hyped and there's too many punters.
Yeah I know we're all fuckin the same chicks but still how many cocks they've had in a day and how much of the "take care attitude" i'm searching for isn't really there on Soi 6.

So i switched. 
I hit the beer bars on MadeIn Thailand. Soi Diana. I don't do the WS beer bars, never bothered. Please comment if you've found talent here. 
Action Street is dead. Pub Street was the same off Buakhao. On Buakhao I recently tried Club 555 during the early arvo and the place was packed and wild.
And this got me into thinking about the other gents clubs. 
I recently tried the bunch on Soi Bongkot and while the business model of Soi 6 was similar the naughtiness and fun was moreso and I had a better time. I'm unsure why. Maybe because it was my first time there. J-Club was very relaxed and I had the most fun in Pirates.

The other thing I do is for afternoon delight is massage shops.
It's a steady rotation of Soi Chiayapoon,  Soi Honey.
I haven't done Soi Lengkee. or the other massage shops off the back of Triangle bar on Chaiyapoon. But I will, someday.
I like the quickies in Massage shops. It's procedural as it gets but if that's what i want at that time of the arvo it fits the budget and mood perfectly.

In June/July I was disappointed with Soi Honey soapy 1 and 2. I passed on PP Body massage once I saw a bus out front. Is Rasputin's still good, I heard it was?

Beer bars seem to fit my mood and my budget. 300 BF and 1000 ST to 2000 LT.
I'm ok about taking a woman in her 30's. If her attitude is right then the night usually and next morning is a treat.
Sometimes you get a younger girl who's either from the bush or been through the gogo's, but the ages I usually go with are early 30's and late 20's.

Go-go's get interspersed during the week. I can't be a beer bar bar fly every night. So its it's off to WS or Metro.
Then after some recon and searches either that night or in the nights previously, once I see something I like I tend to follow that old Elastica song lyrics - Riding on anything, 
Anything's good enough, Who would've thought it of 
Someone like you, and then  -  but somehow the connection is made, so with that thought in mind I go for it.
But it's usually a 24 year old. Who is as skinny as a greyhound. Unlike a woman, she' still a girl,  her mind ain't steady, her experience and attitude is a "quickie" and i'm okay for that. You go there knowing that's the set up. If that's what i want on that night then so be it. It's usually a terrific sportsfuck and that why i like it.
 

But if I want the take care attitude, it's a beer bar. But it does involve a shit tonne of recon. Lots of visits. But thankfully Patts has an over abundance of beer bars with nice and friendly girls and women waiting to be found. So I enjoy the hunt. 

Tinder and TF are hit and miss. Photos aren't updated and even while I ask and receive recent pics iit feels like shopping from an escort website or a shopping catalogue.
So far in my experience the sex, (but not always), has been mechanical. 

It might be the future, but while beer bars exist I will enjoy the hunt and search from red neon bar to bar each night in search of that diamond in the rough. 
 

end rant.

 


 

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dingbat22
30 minutes ago, Komando said:

I'm glad I experienced the Pattaya the O.P. writes of.  Yes, what he says is true.  Pattaya used to be an adult male's heaven!!!

 

Now it is a commercial hustle.  Go-Go bar girls are NOT worth the prices they ask nor are the ridiculously high bar fines for LOW QUALITY girls.  I refuse to spend money in a Go-Go bar anymore.  The experience these days and nights is nothing like it was the first time I visited Pattaya in 2007.  Bar fines then were only 600 baht in a Go-Go.  Short time 1,000 baht.  Long time for 1,500 baht.  There were PLENTY of GREAT looking girls all over town!!! Girls did not have smart phones then either.

 

What goes on today is complete BULLSHIT compared to what Pattaya was 10 years ago. 

 

It is not even close...

You got to admit, times were "fucking" good back then, and we were spoilt rotten with what we all had on offer during those times....They were really "Happy Days" 

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regyai

Concur with the O.P. a concise synopsis of the Pattaya I remember

 

 

 

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taylor1975
35 minutes ago, Komando said:

Girls did not have smart phones then either.

What goes on today is complete BULLSHIT compared to what Pattaya was 10 years ago. 

I say thank you to the smartphone/wifi/4g developments. Phonecalls on VOIP ...amazing!

10 years ago, my options would be limited. Now limitless.

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Komando
26 minutes ago, taylor1975 said:

I say thank you to the smartphone/wifi/4g developments. Phonecalls on VOIP ...amazing!

10 years ago, my options would be limited. Now limitless.

Point taken.

 

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Cerby666
Posted (edited)

 OP said "Going with a hooker in western society offers none of this."

You hit the nail on the head with that. For us more recent converts it is still an adult Westworld that offers something that just cant be found at home.Each trip I've seen people walking about with that slack jawed face of delighted wonderment that I probably had on my mug the first time I went.

What it used to be like is irrelevant, what it offers now is flippin amazing, I adore it, I go to Gogo's most nights and couldn't give a fuk what it costs. I enjoy it, I can afford it, and nowhere else can I be so immersed in so many options 24 hours a day.

Edited by Cerby666
Spalling

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rob63

The op's post was too @#$@*ing long.

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Old Scratch
Posted (edited)

No matter how many times guys try to convince me that Beach rd girls or beer bar girls are the same as gogo girls, I just can't seem to find a Lala on beach rd.

Edited by Old Scratch

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Shrapple
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What's the point of going to gogos now? 

From Reading the forum; if you weren't part of the supposed pattaya Hay day, there is no point as it's moved on from what you have described, and will most likely never go back. Which we can accept and keep going or we can keep whining and keep generating threads for  all to Jack off too and reminisce over the good old days. 

Now as someone whos first trip to pattaya was 2017,and have been 5 times since with a 3 week trip coming up in September. I would think the point of going is 3 fold:

1.they are still where all the best looking girls congregate. Although only in limited few gogos:saphire, Skyfall, Palace, imagine etc (these are where I mainly barfine from). I agree some gogos I see absolutely nothing in, and just walked straight out off 

2.they are good for predrinks before hitting up ibar or other clubs, I like the layout of saphire and spend alot of time in there. 

3. Even though the likes of Skyfall is 5k plus 2k barfine(pre midnight), plus maybe 1k in lady drinks and for yourself. 8k baht is a hell of alot cheaper than what I can get back home for a lady of that standard all night and usually all afternoon. 

I still love pattaya for what it is, reading these posts makes me glad I wasn't there 10 years ago, as  I would hate to spend my trips complaining:' I remember when'.

5 weeks this Saturday until Touch down and I can't wait. 

Edited by Shrapple

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kash buc

More sad laments from the left behind Pattaya old timers. Our time has come and gone and we can no longer afford the new Pattaya 

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dingbat22
14 minutes ago, Shrapple said:

What's the point of going to gogos now?  

I still love pattaya for what it is, reading these posts makes me glad I wasn't there 10 years ago, as  I would hate to spend my trips complaining:' I remember when'.

5 weeks this Saturday until touch down and I can't wait. 

Basically what you now pay £250 for, used to cost £25.... Also the attitude of the girls was so much more of a Genuine fun filled GFE experience compared to what it is today.... Its getting to the point without the GFE that we used to have ,and the cheaper pussy,for some veteran mongers  Pattaya has become somewhat Jaded because it no longer comes close to meeting the expectations of what Pattaya used to be

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sulu

{sigh} The older I get the better things used to be,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :Laugh1:

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