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Exiled
On 12/09/2019 at 22:52, Taa_Saparot said:

So why when someone goes to Jomtien to do a Tourist Visa extension, they have to fill in a TM30?

If the residence they are staying is on the up and up, majority of the time it is done online should get a copy when doing the extension visa provide a copy with your passport, this was exactly what was done when my cousin did an extension last month at Jomtien. 

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Taa_Saparot
4 hours ago, Exiled said:

If the residence they are staying is on the up and up, majority of the time it is done online should get a copy when doing the extension visa provide a copy with your passport, this was exactly what was done when my cousin did an extension last month at Jomtien. 

Still have to fill in a TM30.

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talung66
7 hours ago, Exiled said:

If the residence they are staying is on the up and up, majority of the time it is done online should get a copy when doing the extension visa provide a copy with your passport, this was exactly what was done when my cousin did an extension last month at Jomtien. 

Yes for a extension if your staying in a condo you will need  to provide immigration

With the filled in form called the TM7 a passport photo plus  photocopy copies  of the photo page of your passport plus TM6 and TM30 and arrival visa stamp about to expire.

 

 

TM7 three.pdf

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Explorer8939
5 hours ago, talung66 said:

Yes for a extension if your staying in a condo you will need  to provide immigration

With the filled in form called the TM7 a passport photo plus  photocopy copies  of the photo page of your passport plus TM6 and TM30 and arrival visa stamp about to expire.

 

 

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If the condo landlord is responsible for the TM-30, how are you supposed to have a copy?

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talung66
31 minutes ago, Explorer8939 said:

If the condo landlord is responsible for the TM-30, how are you supposed to have a copy? Where dose it say that

From the photocopy machine think you call it a xerox .

Think your misunderstanding you have the TM 30 from the landlord then photo coy it where is the issue.

 

33 minutes ago, Explorer8939 said:

With the filled in form called the TM7 a passport photo plus  photocopy copies  of the photo page of your passport plus TM6 and TM30 and arrival visa stamp about to expire.

Here is my TM 30 i then photo copied it and gave it to immigration with the rest of paperwork.

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malibu51

I have a multiple entry visa .  I will be entering Thailand on September 28th.  I will be staying at the View Talay 6 renting a condo for three months.  During that time, I will leave by air to the Philippines after about 60 days.  Then I will return.  I might take another trip to Vietnam and returning before January 28th which is the end of the multi entry visa period. I can then stay in Thailand, I believe, for another 60 days since I flew in and out of Thailand.  Does the TM30 affect me in anyway ? 

Does the hotel I will be staying at, in Bangkok, in Pattaya, in Phuket, have to notify them ?  Do I have any responsibility in this ?

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Taa_Saparot
2 hours ago, malibu51 said:

I have a multiple entry visa .  I will be entering Thailand on September 28th.  I will be staying at the View Talay 6 renting a condo for three months.  During that time, I will leave by air to the Philippines after about 60 days.  Then I will return.  I might take another trip to Vietnam and returning before January 28th which is the end of the multi entry visa period. I can then stay in Thailand, I believe, for another 60 days since I flew in and out of Thailand.  Does the TM30 affect me in anyway ? 

Does the hotel I will be staying at, in Bangkok, in Pattaya, in Phuket, have to notify them ?  Do I have any responsibility in this ?

Depends if you are going to have any dealings with Jomtien Immigration?

If not, then it should not affect you.

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tuga

I am sorry but this is only applied for extended visa? If you come on a visa on arrival for lets say 20 day you need to do it? Even if I go to Pattaya and some of the time to Phuket or Krabi?

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Explorer8939
10 hours ago, malibu51 said:

I have a multiple entry visa .  I will be entering Thailand on September 28th.  I will be staying at the View Talay 6 renting a condo for three months.  During that time, I will leave by air to the Philippines after about 60 days.  Then I will return.  I might take another trip to Vietnam and returning before January 28th which is the end of the multi entry visa period. I can then stay in Thailand, I believe, for another 60 days since I flew in and out of Thailand.  Does the TM30 affect me in anyway ? 

Does the hotel I will be staying at, in Bangkok, in Pattaya, in Phuket, have to notify them ?  Do I have any responsibility in this ?

The hotels and condo owners should register you, and the process should be invisible to you.

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talung66
11 hours ago, malibu51 said:

I have a multiple entry visa .  I will be entering Thailand on September 28th.  I will be staying at the View Talay 6 renting a condo for three months.  During that time, I will leave by air to the Philippines after about 60 days.  Then I will return.  I might take another trip to Vietnam and returning before January 28th which is the end of the multi entry visa period. I can then stay in Thailand, I believe, for another 60 days since I flew in and out of Thailand.  Does the TM30 affect me in anyway ? + As long as you arrive on or before january 28th  you will get a new 60 

Does the hotel I will be staying at, in Bangkok, in Pattaya, in Phuket, have to notify them ?  yes Do I have any responsibility in this ? NO but  if your going to inigration then get the TM 30 in a hard copy  from them VT 6 is not a hotel 

Your explanation is very hard to decipher each entry i think reads 60 days or less and using the end instead of specific dates.

it sound ok as below indicates .

 

9 hours ago, Taa_Saparot said:

Depends if you are going to have any dealings with Jomtien Immigration?

If not, then it should not affect you.

 

 

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piloter

 Nothing so far has been done to ease my mind and that of my friends here.  We're all long  expats  on retirement extensions who stay at our own condos.    So we are simultaneously foreign visitors and house masters.     Immigration is taking steps to reduce the burden on visitors but have done nothing for house masters.   So it seems that as house master I still need to register myself as a visitor living at my condo.  

  Jomtien told me last month that I need only re-register when I as a visitor leave Thailand and return.   At that point I as housemaster must fill out the TM-30 to report myself returning to Thailand to live at my condo.

  I like that Immigration is still considering this and I hope they don't forget about the burden on the house master as well.

 

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Taa_Saparot

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-immigration-clarifies-tm28-24-hour-reporting-exceptions-72888.php#AHdgip9fRekXTbYg.97

 

Phuket Immigration clarifies TM28, 24-hour reporting ‘exceptions’

PHUKET: Phuket Immigration Chief Col Kathathorn Kumthieng clarified to The Phuket News today (Sept 16) a notice posted by the Immigration Bureau announcing that certain visitors to Thailand no longer need to report their change of address.
By Tanyaluk Sakoot - Monday 16 September 2019

The notice, posted on Friday (Sept 13), read, “During the visit to Thailand, for purposes of tourism sports, business, investments, education, practicing of skilled craftsmen or specialists, aliens are not required to notify the competent official in case of moving their residence.”

Col Kathathorn this morning admitted that the announcement may be confusing.

“The notice announces exceptions to the TM28 requirement for foreigners to report their whereabouts within 24 hours of arriving at their destination,” he said.

“Specifically, it exempts any foreigners who enter Thailand for tourism purposes (including “TR” visas and tourists entering Thailand on visa on arrival and visa exemptions), sports visas (S), business visas (B), investment visas (IM, IB), education visas (ED, RS) and skilled craftsmen or specialists visas (EX).

“These people are now exempt from having to file a TM28 reporting their whereabouts,” he said.

However, Col Kathathorn stressed that only people staying in the country on these types of visas are exempt.

“The TM28 requirement still applies to everyone else not covered by these visas,” he said.

“Filing a TM28 is no longer required by these people because of the TM30 requirement, which mandates that owners of properties must report any foreigners staying there,” he explained.

“So the foreigner’s whereabouts will be recorded by the TM30.,” he said.

“But other foreigner staying in the country for purposes not listed in the notice must still complete the 24-hour reporting (TM28),” Col Kathathorn repeated.

Col Kathathorn explained that the immigration rule change follows a meeting held last Monday (Sept 9).

Asked when the exemptions came into effect, he said. “They are active now.”

Col Kathathorn also noted that the 90-day reporting rule for all foreigners staying in the country remains in effect.

“This is still required. Foreigners still have to report themselves to Immigration once every three months,” Col Kathathorn said.

The notice directed any enquiries about the rule change to the Immigration Hotline 1178.

On 12/09/2019 at 15:33, Taa_Saparot said:

No doubt, something is coming, but as usual, it will be as confusing as ever.

https://twitter.com/8td/status/1172120499133927424

This was just circulated to the media by the Immigration Police bureau PR.

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Taa_Saparot

Finally: Immigration Bureau to replace TM30, TM6, TM47 forms with new TM83 super-form

Responding to frequent complaints from long term expat residents of the amount of red tape required to maintain their residence in the Kingdom, Immigration Bureau chief Pol Lt Gen Sompong Chingduang has announced a new super-form will replace the existing TM6 form (arrival card), TM30 form (registration of address) and TM47 form (90 day reporting).

The new TM83 form, which gets its name from adding together forms 6, 30 and 47, is designed to further the Immigration Bureaus stated policy of “Good guys in, bad guys out”.

The new form simply requires aliens on any type of long term visa to declare if they are a “good guy” or a “bad guy”.

Immigration Bureau officials are expected to perform extra checks on those declaring themselves as “bad guys”.

The new form is expected to be rolled out soon subject to Cabinet approval.

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Taa_Saparot

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1752429/europe-trade-body-wants-end-to-tm30

Europe trade body wants end to TM30
PUBLISHED : 18 SEP 2019

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The European Association for Business and Commerce (EABC) has proposed an immediate end to the TM30 24-hour reporting and TM28 change-of-permanent-address immigration forms.

The EABC represents the interests of the European business community in the kingdom.

It submitted the request to Thai officials including Kobsak Pootrakool, deputy secretary-general for political affairs to the prime minister; Gen Anupong Paojinda, the Minister of the Interior; and Pol Lt Gen Sompong Chingduang, the Immigration Bureau chief.

Jan Eriksson, President of the EABC, said, "The immigration form TM30, or 24-hour reporting, requires property owners and lessors to report the movements of foreigners using such properties.

Both Thai citizens and foreigners have found the situation difficult and unnecessary, and the situation has caused some unfortunately negative views about Thailand, both as an investment and a 'doing-business' location, and as a tourism destination. This is surely not good."

A completed TM30 form is now a prerequisite to using normal visa services. "We commend the government for taking positive steps to make it easier to do business. Currently, we feel that the TM30 is undoing those good achievements," he said.

"It is hard to see how security which relies on self-disclosure can be a useful solution," he added.

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Spellforce
On 15/09/2019 at 13:22, Taa_Saparot said:

Still have to fill in a TM30.

I"ve just done it in Jomtien and it works: just do a screenshot of the online registration, print it and ask the landlord to sign it.

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wido
On 09/09/2019 at 03:52, talung66 said:

Did the form from the juristic office look like this if yes that is a TM 30 they got for you.

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It wasn't that form. Grand Avenue doesn't have a juridisic person for do this.

 

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talung66
42 minutes ago, wido said:
On 09/09/2019 at 08:52, talung66 said:

 

It wasn't that form. Grand Avenue doesn't have a juridisic person for do this.

And you point is.

 

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talung66
18 hours ago, wido said:

It wasn't that form. Grand Avenue doesn't have a juridisic person for do this.

 

disregard did not  read reply properly had a few to many beers at the time 

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