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Evil Penevil

Under 300 Baht ... And Mediocre (updated 2020)

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Evil Penevil

The all-you-can-eat international buffet at the Atlantis Restaurant at the Centara Azure on Soi 15 falls squarely in the mediocre column.  It runs Monday through Thursday, 6.30 p.m. to 10.30 p.m, and costs  299 baht.  
 
There isn't much variety- about eight main dishes ( four each of Asian and farang food), a measly salad bar and a few side dishes, appetizers and desserts to choose from. It's not a bountiful buffet. The food is undistinguished and dining can be hassle due to Chinese and other tour groups.  We got there at 7.00 p.m. but the serving trays had already been heavily plundered and the staff was slow to refill them.


 
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It's a rather off-putting experience to see Chinese tourists hit a buffet and much worse if you have to compete with them.  I'm not going to say more, but I think you get the idea. 
 
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The best thing about the Atlantis is the decor and huge aquarium. Kids love it, but it's sad when watching fish in a restaurant is more enjoyable than eating fish.

 

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I haven't tried the BBQ buffet and never will, but a friend who did try it thought it was not just mediocre but bad considering the price.

 

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Evil

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cc7up

So,  there Are 'Pound Shops' in Thailand, eh?

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SirL

Good thread idea and good start, but IMO you should call a spade a spade.  That Centara Azure buffet would count to me as "bad".  Maybe you're being a bit American about not criticising and talking positive?  That said, there's a fine line between too much food out in a buffet (goes cold and stale) and too little (staff slow to replenish, chafing dishes messy and empty), and a single unpredicted coachload of Chinese would shift many buffets from good to bad.  If on entering I saw the scene in your second and third Centara Azure pics, of many Chinese around the buffet, I'd consider leaving and returning another time.

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semi-retired member
15 hours ago, cc7up said:

So,  there Are 'Pound Shops' in Thailand, eh?

Yes IME, known as 19-Baht shops, although prices are usually all-sorts !

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Saddic
19 hours ago, SirL said:

Good thread idea and good start, but IMO you should call a spade a spade.  That Centara Azure buffet would count to me as "bad".  Maybe you're being a bit American about not criticising and talking positive?  That said, there's a fine line between too much food out in a buffet (goes cold and stale) and too little (staff slow to replenish, chafing dishes messy and empty), and a single unpredicted coachload of Chinese would shift many buffets from good to bad.  If on entering I saw the scene in your second and third Centara Azure pics, of many Chinese around the buffet, I'd consider leaving and returning another time.

Centara: ...ditto...  bad...

Lee's Diner:... meh...

Take Away:  bad... how do you screw up a bacon sandwich?  go and find out...

Robin Hood:  Under new(current mgt)..  mediocre to good... I do like their cod & chips...  Will never do the carvery again...  held under heat lamps all day (I guess you get there at noon, or you get worn out shoe leather...

 

Anyplace with tour buses: agree, mediocre to extremely bad...

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Taa_Saparot
20 hours ago, cc7up said:

So,  there Are 'Pound Shops' in Thailand, eh?

Yes, apart from everything is 60 baht.

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petermik
11 hours ago, Taa_Saparot said:

Yes, apart from everything is 60 baht.

not the 20 baht specials...oh no......:Laugh1:

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Evil Penevil

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A lot of people favor the Sailor Restaurant on Soi 7, mainly because it is cheap, but I've never had much luck. I've eaten there five times in the past six years  Three meals were bad (one totally inedible), one was good and the most recent (last night) was mediocre.

I tried one of the more expensive items on the menu, the T-bone steak for 150 baht. It came with a choice of potatoes, boiled vegetables and a smattering of cabbage salad.  I'm fully aware that for that price you're not going to get imported beef, so my expectations weren't too high.  I asked for the steak to be done medium and that's how it came.

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As soon as I had a piece of it in my mouth, I was reminded of the children's story "The Little Engine That Could."  Chew, chew, chew and me tell myself, "I think I can, I think I can."  It wasn't impossibly tough, but tough enough to place it in the mediocre category.  The mashed potatoes tasted weird and the veggies had been boiled way too soft for me, but some like them that way.

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I knew before I stepped into the Sailor I was entering the heart of Cheap Charlie darkness, where price and portion size are much more important than taste.  I figured I'd get a mediocre meal and that's exactly what happened.  But whatever its culinary faults, the Sailor has been in operation for many years and remains popular.  I sat down at the last available table about 8.00 p.m. At least 30 people were dining, including three groups of  eight. It thinned out a bit as I ate my meal, but still had plenty of customers when I finished.

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 The day the zombie apocalypse comes to Pattaya, the Sailor Restaurant will be one of the last outlying bastions of Cheap Charliedom to fall before the final stand at New Plaza.  I'll check back in 2019 to see if the Sailor has changed.

Evil

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jpmelville

I never have eaten in Sailor Bar as I have heard too many horror stories about the food. I have done fair share of drinking there and the drinks are cheap and cheerful.

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Crushed

Sailor bar was all about the breakfasts for me as I would stay in the area and my hotel breakfast stopped serving breakfast at 10 am whereas sailor serve until much later.  I have eaten dinner there twice and it was Thai food both times.  Second time I ate dinner there was with a BF, she was unimpressed and got street food while I ate.  Other than breakfast I wouldn't bother with the Western food there.  

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hetepatat

I had breakfast once in Sailor Bar.
The way they were shouting and bashing on people who asked for some salt etc there is enough to never return.
Bad attitude servers that day.
Breakfast i had was cheap but less than mediocre in portion size, taste and quality.

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baddog666
On 8/10/2018 at 03:49, Evil Penevil said:

 

A lot of people favor the Sailor Restaurant on Soi 7, mainly because it is cheap, but I've never had much luck. I've eaten there five times in the past six years  Three meals were bad (one totally inedible), one was good and the most recent (last night) was mediocre.

I tried one of the more expensive items on the menu, the T-bone steak for 150 baht. It came with a choice of potatoes, boiled vegetables and a smattering of cabbage salad.  I'm fully aware that for that price you're not going to get imported beef, so my expectations weren't too high.  I asked for the steak to be done medium and that's how it came.

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As soon as I had a piece of it in my mouth, I was reminded of the children's story "The Little Engine That Could."  Chew, chew, chew and me tell myself, "I think I can, I think I can."  It wasn't impossibly tough, but tough enough to place it in the mediocre category.  The mashed potatoes tasted weird and the veggies had been boiled way too soft for me, but some like them that way.

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I knew before I stepped into the Sailor I was entering the heart of Cheap Charlie darkness, where price and portion size are much more important than taste.  I figured I'd get a mediocre meal and that's exactly what happened.  But whatever its culinary faults, the Sailor has been in operation for many years and remains popular.  I sat down at the last available table about 8.00 p.m. At least 30 people were dining, including three groups of  eight. It thinned out a bit as I ate my meal, but still had plenty of customers when I finished.

 

 The day the zombie apocalypse comes to Pattaya, the Sailor Restaurant will be one of the last outlying bastions of Cheap Charliedom to fall before the final stand at New Plaza.  I'll check back in 2019 to see if the Sailor has changed.

Evil

I have to say.... you really go above and beyond to TOFTT.....   That is a truly frightening example of a T Bone steak , even at 150B and I can't even tell what that white side item is.... potato ?  rice ?  grits ?     I have never seen something referred to as a T Bone steak that is almost round in shape.

I do love your reports......

 

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PBear66

Slightly mystified why you keep ordering steaks in these restaurants. It is as clear as day that they are going to be dreadful.

It may have only cost 150 baht but it was still 150 baht wasted.

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stubby

I had the t-bone there once was like shoe leather so never again but the yellow curry had plenty of potato chunks and surprisingly good.

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Evil Penevil
17 hours ago, PBear66 said:

Slightly mystified why you keep ordering steaks in these restaurants. It is as clear as day that they are going to be dreadful.

It may have only cost 150 baht but it was still 150 baht wasted.

I sometimes eat in restaurants where I don't have high expectations to be able to write a review backed up by recent pics.  Of the 186 reviews of the Sailor on TripAdvisor, 25% rate it as Excellent and 46% as Very Good.  Even on the punter boards I've read the T-bone steak at Sailor is good value for money.

All I can say is that anyone who thinks the food at Sailor has been luckier than I have or they have  a very different concept of good food.

Evil

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PBear66

No problem and i really enjoy you taking the time and effort to post these reviews.

My point was that it's hard to get bad chicken or pork but beef and steak normally fall into 1 of 2 catagories good or bad with nothing in between.

Keep up the good work. Thanks. 

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baddog666
2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

I sometimes eat in restaurants where I don't have high expectations to be able to write a review backed up by recent pics.  Of the 186 reviews of the Sailor on TripAdvisor, 25% rate it as Excellent and 46% as Very Good.  Even on the punter boards I've read the T-bone steak at Sailor is good value for money.

All I can say is that anyone who thinks the food at Sailor has been luckier than I have or they have  a very different concept of good food.

Evil

Food , beer, women..... all can be subjective.   I enjoy your reviews and respect that it is your opinion.

The problem is , some guys can't seem to understand that tastes differ..... what may be crap to you or I may be " the dogs bollocks " to someone else....even if the dish in question was actually made from canine testicles.....

When I stayed at Areca a while back , I ate often at Lee's and enjoyed their food.... Thai dishes and pizza... but I also respect your opinion.

We used to make a joke when out picking up girls , as the night wore on... our motto would be " when all else fails, lower your standards "....   When it comes to good food , some guys begin with low standards.

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Evil Penevil
1 hour ago, baddog666 said:

 When it comes to good food , some guys begin with low standards.

That's very true.  Some people who have eaten low-quality food all their lives tend to prefer it even when much better food is available.  Children from disadvantaged families will often want spaghetti from a can; fish sticks; instant mashed potatoes; mac and cheese from a box; White Castle hamburgers, etc. rather than home-made stuff.  Some carry over these preferences into adulthood.

Another factor is the inconsistency in Pattaya restaurants.  Menu items that were  good one day can be horrible the next, depending on who's in the kitchen.  Add to that many Thai cooks don't eat farang food and have no idea how it should taste.  They are simply unaware they are serving bad food.

Evil

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hetepatat

Many other reasons are possible to make bad food as an Asian cook.
Maybe they just had the fresh ingredients for breakfast 'German style' like ham and cheese, etc on bread.. (sandwich) today and it will be nice.
Maybe just got them a week ago and saved them in the fridge that barely works.. or even worse : froze it , then defrosted it 'to order' = too fast anyway for an ingredient that should never be frozen.

Had a spaghetti bolognese once in China :   just the spaghetti with a little bit of tomato sauce. No meat. And most of the noodle stuff even stayed white. It's like you said : they have no idea what it should look like.

I saw people there who thought ketchup was the same as spaghetti sauce.  What can you do about that ? Make them a real spaghetti , let them watch how to make it, then taste it.. and hope they never forget.

A good restaurant owner should check on the staff and the foods regularly, supervise the buying of fresh ingredients, and correct what goes wrong along the way. Without this : no good restaurant .. Seen many examples of this in LOS.

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hetepatat
9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 Of the 186 reviews of the Sailor on TripAdvisor, 25% rate it as Excellent and 46% as Very Good.  Even on the punter boards I've read the T-bone steak at Sailor is good value for money.

But then again, most punters get drunk every day and don't get sober until after the flight home.
So ...   what do they care or even realise about the food.
Their mind is on drinking and shagging.

IMHO Sailor Bar's food can only end up in the top of a ranking if the customer only looks at the price and just checks 'yes' for any food (or what looks like it) at all being on the plate.
Half of them will give a good rating if the food doesn't make them puke again. The other half will be very happy it does make them throw up, just to make room for more beer, and will give a good rating too.


Soi 6, 7 or 8 visitors are not really a reference if you want to find good food critics. I bet you can serve rat meat for some of them and they wouldn't mind if the price is ok.

No pun intended. Just an opinion.
I fully respect any other person's views on the matter. As for you, Evil : i guess you were just generous calling them 'mediocre'.

Keep on doing the good job of reviewing places for us please.

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Evil Penevil

Early this week I tried the daily special (roast chicken dinner, 139 baht) at Malee Restaurant on Soi Honey.  I've had several meals at Malee 3 off Soi Buakhao and the Malee branch on Soi Lengkee  and they had been pretty good.

Unfortunately, the meal at Male Soi Honey wasn't. It was merely mediocre. It consisted of a quarter chicken (thigh and leg), mashed potatoes, mixed vegetables and packet gravy.

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The chicken was dry and the skin had a weird texture, as though it had been cooked, left to stand and reheated. The potatoes were crudely mashed with a fork.  The veggies were OK and not overcooked.

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On the positive side, portion size was fine and the service was friendly.  The restaurant was clean and well-lit.

Bottom line: a mediocre meal at a cheap price.

Evil

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baddog666
11 hours ago, hetepatat said:

But then again, most punters get drunk every day and don't get sober until after the flight home.
So ...   what do they care or even realise about the food.

Excellent point....the fact is , a person who drinks a lot on a regular basis has limited taste ability , needs more salt than the average person , and generally has a damaged palate .  Same for heavy smokers.

http://www.harbourhealthdc.com/7-things-can-kill-sense-taste/

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superroo

Shame about the meal you got at Malee .  Can't fault the breakfast they serve ,it's excellent.

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stubby

I tried the fish and chips special at pitini's and i am sure it was freshwater Pangasius (Shark Catfish) very mushy and the best thing about it was the batter fortunately the chips were ok.

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