Diagianosed with diabetes

[SkippyRoo]

2 points if you ignore it then yes it could kill you but at the moment living  with type 2 ain't that bad . 

Just learning what to eat and what not to eat will go a long way. As you probably worked out from my beer questions I am learning as I go. Biggest and hardest but most important thing I cut out was full strength coke and soft drink in general.. drop 10 kg in the first few months a combination of that and the metformin but for the metformin to work effectively in eliminating the sugar you have to eixercise. In the next few weeks I am hoping sexercise will do it.

Anyway good luck and if you listen to the diabetes educators you will be fine. Take it as a learning curve and to be honest it is a good time to ask those diet questions you always wanted to ask but the doctor seemed too busy to answer

Skippyroo.

 

[alex1981]

17 minutes ago, bluechef said:

 Nobody dies from diabetes, but lots die from the complications caused by it. Lose weight , exercise eat less empty carbs, like spuds,  white rice,  sugary drinks, i'm type 2 but with exercise and weight loss . I can more or less eat and drink what I like. Within reason.

Can i ask do you use the blood glucose monitor everyday and what would a reading be if yiu dont mind?

and is dairy products ok still to eat,i love cheese 

and guys if your middleaged please consider having a blood test for diabetes ,it may be better as for  me to look at changing my lifestyle 

i have been getting tired a lot lately and the miserable DR said this was a symptom so i cant go on like that everyday feeling sluggish

so please get your blood sugar level tested 

 

[Trevor]

I was diagnosed with Type 2,  7 years ago when I was 46.

My fasting glucose level then was over 20!!

I take it seriously and with medication, exercise and a largely sugar free diet it's under control, with typical fasting readings of less than 6.

My palate has adjusted to the extent I simply cannot face any of the sugary foods I used to enjoy.

It does change your life.

In my case it was a wake up call to look after myself, eat healthily and exercise. I was probably heading for a heart attack or stroke with my previous lifestyle so I consider it has been a blessing in disguise. 

Everybody is different but when I go to Thailand I also lose weight but my morning readings go up by a full point, pretty much from the day I land and drop almost instantly when I get home.....I suspect it's the sugar that's added to almost everything you order. 

As others have said get yourself a testing kit, and it will help you figure out what how your body reacts to various foods, alcohol etc.

Feel free to fire away with any questions.

 

 

 

 

[bluechef]

14 minutes ago, alex1981 said:

Can i ask do you use the blood glucose monitor everyday and what would a reading be if yiu dont mind?

and is dairy products ok still to eat,i love cheese 

and guys if your middleaged please consider having a blood test for diabetes ,it may be better as for  me to look at changing my lifestyle 

i have been getting tired a lot lately and the miserable DR said this was a symptom so i cant go on like that everyday feeling sluggish

so please get your blood sugar level tested 

 

No I don't test , my diabetes was brought on by two lots of very major surgery, five weeks apart. so my doctor tells me, no one in my family has ever been diabetic. I lost a lot of weight very quickly, but when you are ill. you tend to lose muscle mass rather than fat. When you regain your weight it tends  to come back as fat as your metabolism is lowered, Now I have retired a year ago, I have lost over 30 kilos. I have come off my bp meds and cholesterol meds. soon I hope to be off metformin. Exercise is the key. never felt better since I was a young man.

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[bluechef]

23 minutes ago, alex1981 said:

Can i ask do you use the blood glucose monitor everyday and what would a reading be if yiu dont mind?

and is dairy products ok still to eat,i love cheese 

and guys if your middleaged please consider having a blood test for diabetes ,it may be better as for  me to look at changing my lifestyle 

i have been getting tired a lot lately and the miserable DR said this was a symptom so i cant go on like that everyday feeling sluggish

so please get your blood sugar level tested 

 

Cheese dairy are no problem .

[Luv2Phuket]

I guess they use different testing equipment in other countries, because some of the referenced numbers do not line up with my testing and equipment.

With USA monitors, I try to get my blood glucose reading around 100 pre-meal; maybe 150 post-meal.  A1C readings ideally would be 4.8 to 5.6; pre-diabetic is 5.7 to 6.4.  Adult diabetics should shoot for below 7.0.  I am consistently below 8, but don't think I have ever cracked 7.0.

I am Type 1 Diabetic -- had an illness as a child and my pancreas completely shut down.  I have been on insulin shots since I was 9.  Mine is incurable, and, although diet and exercise can go a long way to controlling my blood glucose levels, they can never reverse the disease.

While Type 2 is necessarily different, my advice for you would be to test you glucose levels as much as possible early on.  You will start to learn/see how certain foods and exercise have a direct impact on you.

I could be wrong, but I think Type 2 has less risk of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar), but it can be a bitch for someone in my shoes.  Type 1 means your blood sugar can go incredibly high (I've topped 400) or very low (I hit 19 once....could barely function)

Pay attention to it and do NOT ignore it -- that is how people have serious complications

[j_d66]

22 minutes ago, Luv2Phuket said:

I guess they use different testing equipment in other countries, because some of the referenced numbers do not line up with my testing and equipment.

With USA monitors, I try to get my blood glucose reading around 100 pre-meal; maybe 150 post-meal.  A1C readings ideally would be 4.8 to 5.6; pre-diabetic is 5.7 to 6.4.  Adult diabetics should shoot for below 7.0.  I am consistently below 8, but don't think I have ever cracked 7.0.

I am Type 1 Diabetic -- had an illness as a child and my pancreas completely shut down.  I have been on insulin shots since I was 9.  Mine is incurable, and, although diet and exercise can go a long way to controlling my blood glucose levels, they can never reverse the disease.

While Type 2 is necessarily different, my advice for you would be to test you glucose levels as much as possible early on.  You will start to learn/see how certain foods and exercise have a direct impact on you.

I could be wrong, but I think Type 2 has less risk of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar), but it can be a bitch for someone in my shoes.  Type 1 means your blood sugar can go incredibly high (I've topped 400) or very low (I hit 19 once....could barely function)

Pay attention to it and do NOT ignore it -- that is how people have serious complications

Yes they are different tests

My understanding is the A1C test is more of an average over time. The Doctors like that to see how you are doing over a period of months.  

The blood glucose test  shows you more of a range and how it changes day to day or for example pre meal and post meal.  It helpful to see if the meds you are taking are helping to control your blood sugar.  

A1C testing kits are a little more expensive and since you are supposed to fast before a A1C test it probably is not the best indicator for daily testing.

My Doc told me people who have Type 1 its not their fault.  Luck of the draw while people who develop type 2 it generally is there fault since they have developed lifestyle habits that contribute to the disease.

Rarely will a type 2 be given insulin right away.  There are other medicines they will prescribe first and only go to insulin when the others are not working sufficiently.

I started on metformin but it made me feel worse than not having any medicine.

Now I am on Invokana and Victoza.  For me Victoza works wonders. It dropped my numbers 100 points immediately.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jim71]

Type 2 diabetes is reversablw with a Ketogenic diet of high fats very low carbs. I lost 30kg in 2.5 months eating high fat. I was eating lots of bacon,avos,eggs ,cheese and heaps of butter. Easiest diet to be on.

[Luv2Phuket]

2 hours ago, j_d66 said:

 

Now I am on Invokana and Victoza.  For me Victoza works wonders. It dropped my numbers 100 points immediately.

 

Even though they expressly say it is NOT for people with Type 1 diabetes, my Dr has me on Victoza, too.

Started on it years ago, and lost a ton of weight and EVERY test improved by 10%+ (including cholesterol and some others), but my insurer refused to cover it.  Eventually, I went off of it, gained the weight back and my numbers fell.

My insurer finally agreed to let me get back on it, but the results have not been near as good as last time (although, admittedly, I am not on the diet and exercise kick I was on then).

 

[Zeb]

Alex, Coffee is fine - but skip the sugar.

Your Specialist will put you on medication quicker then you can say Cocoa Cola but ask him if he is familiar with Roy Taylor's work. Prof Taylor has recently undertaken the largest trial even funded by Diabetes UK.

Your nutritionists will talk about the food pyramid, balanced diets, but your aim has to be to cut back on starchy and sugary carbs - in all its forms. If you do that you will be well on your way to keeping your blood sugar levels stable which in turn will keep your insulin levels low and stable.

San Miguel Lite Beer is definitely the way to go if you go ahead with your Thai trip. Spirits without sugary soft drinks are also fine as is Red wine.

Plenty of lower carb beers in Australia as well. One that surprised me was the ALDI lower carb beer. Bought some, was expecting to be disappointed but it went down really well. Still 5% alcohol. Also half the price of some of the bigger names, eg Hahn low carb etc.

The PDF of Dr Michael Mosley's Book, The 8 Week Blood sugar Diet is attached. Good idea to also buy a paper copy.

The 8 Week Blood Sugar Diet.pdf

Roy Taylor -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vsrB_dlUzI

and other Roy Taylor stuff -

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=roy+taylor+reversing+diabetes

Best wishes.

 

[alex1981]

Thanks Zeb,what a excellent book !

Very interesting it has made me go out and get a watch to do 10,000 steps a day

I would like to follow the Mediterranean diet so im looking more into but yes excellent book and i have downloaded itthanks 

[dave01]

What surprises me, is that with an initial test in the 7's, the OP's doctor wanted to head straight to meds without trying lifestyle adjustment first. 

I was originally diagnosed in the low 8's. My doctor told me to strip off some weight, move around a bit, and be careful about foods I was eating. Because of the job I held, that diagnosis made me unfit for normal duties.. Within a couple of months, I had dropped the weight needed, started eating healthy foods, before I was diagnosed, there wasn't a Macca's I could drive past, and my fasting BGL had returned to about 5... I was then allowed to resume my normal duties.

The OP talks about future job ops. Sadly, if operating machinery, like trains, buses, planes or anything that involves the travelling public, it will be taken into consideration. The other thing to consider with those sort of professions, is the periodic medical exams. They use a points method to calculate your cardiac risk score. Having type 2 increases the score, and thus the cardiac risk... In the latter part of my career, after every medical I was marched off for a cardiac stress test, even tho I had no symptoms of diabetes. And there was nothing untoward with me.

If I was the OP, I would ask his doc to hold off on the meds for a couple of months and see if lifestyle changes leads to an improvement, if after that time there is no improvement, then give the meds a go.  Just my opinion and experience.

[alex1981]

You maybe right dave, i have just starting to go for my Bus drivers licence training so when i see the DR on friday i will tell him this,otherwise i think i have to disclose my diabetes IF I was on medication,if im not then i suppose i wouldnt have to disclose

yes my BSL was 7.1 

the dictor said it should be under 6.4

Is anyone here work on the public transport network a diabetic.?

 

[joeaf]

Does diabetes run in your family history? Go ask your diabetes specialist your questions. 

 

I am a Type 2 diabetic since age 49 (2001) on pills, then on insulin since 2003-present, now age 66.  When I was first diagnosed with diabetes, my A1C was 11.0, I had other symptoms, and diabetes runs in my family. My doctor is ok if my A1C is between 6.5-7.0 and does not want me below 6.5 because of hypoglycemia concerns. 

 

Type 1 affects people at a young age as stated by Luv2Phuket.  Type 2 affects older people and risks increase with being over 45 yrs of age, …

https://www.healthline.com/health/type-2-diabetes-age-of-onset#risk-factors

 

I have experienced hypoglycemia as a Type 2 diabetic so I always try to carry glucose pills with me. 

https://mysugr.com/low-blood-sugars-with-type-2-diabetes/

 

Most people with type 2 diabetes will eventually require insulin… Type 2 diabetes is a progressive disease, so treatment plans will change. When it's not possible to meet blood sugar control goals with lifestyle changes or other medication, insulin is the next step…

https://www.everydayhealth.com/type-2-diabetes/treatment/insulin/

 

Drink in Moderation, meaning 2 drinks/day for a man. 

https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/guide/drinking-alcohol

 

My doctor does not require fasting for only an A1C test.

https://www.healthline.com/health/type-2-diabetes/ac1-test

[Zeb]

1 hour ago, dave01 said:

If I was the OP, I would ask his doc to hold off on the meds for a couple of months and see if lifestyle changes leads to an improvement, if after that time there is no improvement, then give the meds a go.  Just my opinion and experience.

Yep sounds like the way to go, but most Doctors will want to prescribe medication. Potential to be sued be a factor in this, but most believe it is the correct approach.

In Michael Mosely's Book, Roy Taylor does the Preface in which he says -

Quote

In 2006 I was turning the pages of a scientific journal when one particular page leaped out at me. It was a study of weight loss (bariatric) surgery carried out on obese people with type 2 diabetes.

 

This particular page showed a graph of blood sugar levels following the surgery. Within days of the

operation the blood sugar levels had returned to normal and many were able to come off their

medication.

 

This was a striking finding because it was believed that type 2 diabetes was a lifelong,

irreversible disease.

 

People are usually advised that they have a condition that requires first pills, then possibly insulin, and they must get used to living with diabetes.

 

But what really grabbed my attention was the fact that the return to normal blood sugar levels was

so rapid. This fit in with a theory I was developing at the time: that type 2 diabetes is simply the

result of too much fat in the liver and pancreas interfering with insulin production.

 

The sudden return to normal blood sugars had nothing to do with the surgery itself, but merely that eating had suddenly been cut down. If this theory was right, type 2 diabetes should be able to be completely reversed by

food restriction alone.

 

Now we have completed careful studies, which have shown that people who really want to get rid

of their type 2 diabetes can, in just 8 weeks, lose substantial amounts of weight and return blood sugar

to normal or near normal.

 

They remain free of diabetes provided they keep the weight off. We have shown that it is possible to reverse a disease that is still widely seen as irreversible.

 

Dr. Michael Mosley is highlighting the importance of using weight loss to control blood sugar levels.

 

This book is about the biggest health problem of our time, he pulls together hard scientific

information from reliable sources.

 

Dr  Mosley makes the important point that there is not one diet which suits all, and describes alternatives in a helpful fashion. The relevance of increased daily physical activity as part of long-term avoidance of weight regain is nicely summarized, as is the important interaction between mind and body.

 

If you have type 2 diabetes and are interested in trying to regain full health, this is a book for you.

 

[plahgat]

Avoid all processed food with added sugar from your diet, and don't eat too often!

Do intermittent fasting between meals, two or even one meal a day gives the body time to take care of the food you eat before you stuff in the next meal!

A constant intake of sugary foods will make the Insulinpump work overtime, and sooner or later it will break down!

Excersise/walk a lot!

It can be reversed if treated in time!

Plahgat

 

[regyai]

11 hours ago, Luv2Phuket said:

I guess they use different testing equipment in other countries, because some of the referenced numbers do not line up with my testing and equipment.

With USA monitors, I try to get my blood glucose reading around 100 pre-meal; maybe 150 post-meal.  A1C readings ideally would be 4.8 to 5.6; pre-diabetic is 5.7 to 6.4.  Adult diabetics should shoot for below 7.0.  I am consistently below 8, but don't think I have ever cracked 7.0.

I am Type 1 Diabetic -- had an illness as a child and my pancreas completely shut down.  I have been on insulin shots since I was 9.  Mine is incurable, and, although diet and exercise can go a long way to controlling my blood glucose levels, they can never reverse the disease.

While Type 2 is necessarily different, my advice for you would be to test you glucose levels as much as possible early on.  You will start to learn/see how certain foods and exercise have a direct impact on you.

I could be wrong, but I think Type 2 has less risk of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar), but it can be a bitch for someone in my shoes.  Type 1 means your blood sugar can go incredibly high (I've topped 400) or very low (I hit 19 once....could barely function)

Pay attention to it and do NOT ignore it -- that is how people have serious complications

 

Some countries (and their testing strip readers) use mg/dL others mmol/L

Dont let it confuse as there are many conversion charts on the net

[yozz]

On 6/4/2018 at 12:37, alex1981 said:

Today the doctor my GP got my blood test results back he said your glucose is 7.3 ,didnt mean anything to me actually,then he said the cut off is 6.1 

he said you have diabetes and i need you to urgently see a diabetes specialist this friday to give you medication 

he looked actually more sadder than me and i felt like hugging him

i said but i feel ok and i have no sickness other than peeing a lot during the night i feel strong

Just the way he told me looking sad has got me sad now,poor bastard i hope he recovers.

Anyway he said you need to lose weight and diet but he will send me to a diabetess educator after the specialist.

Anyone here have diabetes? Next month im off to Thailand for 6 weeks,should i see anyone in Thailand that could cure it.

my age is 50 so i thought i would get it one day eating too many choc biscuits,but im 115kg so i guess my weight ...?..

I was diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes about 8 years ago, my blood sugar was off the charts and my weight was nearly 100+kg, the doctor prescribed all the medication to get it under control,  he never suggested i needed to be sent to a diabetes specialist to be prescribed medication,  he did suggest i went to diabetes management classes to educate me about diabetes with regards to problems and diet, also he sends me for eye tests and foot tests once a year,  the Diabetes management classes i have never been to,  but the eye and feet testing i do attend. as blindness and amputations can arise from complications with not managing the condition properly.

I find that different doctors have different thoughts about blood glucose levels regarding what is too high and what is too low, mine says he wants it to be reading between 4 and 7, mine occasionally goes over 7 and i am advised it should be lowered, last reading was 6.5 . I do not even take my own blood/sugar levels anymore, i just go to my doctors every 3 months for tests.

Since my initial diagnosis i have reduced my weight from 100kg to 74kg,  i still eat some things that are frowned upon, but now i only eat these things in moderation, for example i will not sit and eat a whole bar of chocolate in one go, i will just eat a few segments,  but i have though, stopped all sugary soft drinks like Coke, Iced coffee's, and similar high sugar drinks, i now only drink sparkling mineral water or just plain water, and the only time i drink beer is when i am on  my annual 2 months holiday in Thailand and even then i do not drink every day,  also i have virtually stopped eating bread/ starchy food and processed foods, i now eat a lot more vegies and salads and mostly lots of fish and lean meat  in small portions., i personally think if you keep things in moderation regarding the sweeter foods then you can still enjoy most things. you can go online and the Diabetes Australia site will give you information on good eating. https://www.diabetesaustralia.com.au/

Anyway over the last few years i have been more responsible for the control of my condition than i was during the first 3 or 4 years, and while my diet is not perfect,  combined with my meds, Diaformin XR 2x1000mg, plus Januvia 1x100mg  once a day,  it seems to have it under control,  and if i can reduce the readings down to between a constant 5 to 6, my doctor will try reducing my meds...

Going to Thailand you will not find a cure, but you may have to watch what amounts you drink if you like you alcohol,  it was after returning from a trip to Thailand when i was first diagnosed, but that could have been caused from eating far too much of that sweet Thai Pussy......

[worldpunter]

10 hours ago, alex1981 said:

Thanks Zeb,what a excellent book !

Very interesting it has made me go out and get a watch to do 10,000 steps a day

I would like to follow the Mediterranean diet so im looking more into but yes excellent book and i have downloaded itthanks 

you can get an app on your phone to help  , 

[Pumpuynarak]

I went for me 3 month check up yesterday and me A1C was 6.5 and BFS was 180, doc said the BFS was high but not to worry as me A1C was good.

[twilight1234]

You're going to want to control your diabetes as best you can. Despite the fact that you can feel alright with uncontrolled blood sugars, long-term I've seen people with damaged vision, unhealing ulcers, etc. Not a fun way to spend your final years. 

[philkrenshaw]

I got diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. 4 or 5 years ago.

My A1C was 13.6. A1C is an average over about 3 months (which is the lifetime of a blood cell). They measure it by checking the actual blood cells. They would, indeed, like to have a measurement below 6.1. For the first year or two, you will probably get your A1C measured every 6 months. [One major way diabetes causes problems is too much unconverted glucose in the blood cells makes them stiff so they have trouble getting through small capillaries. That can cause numbness or pain in regions like your feet and, worst case, amputation. If it affects you eyes, your vision can go. So, yeah, this is serious although it takes time to happen and you have time to correct it.]

Blood Glucose levels fluctuate during the day based on what you've eaten, how much and how long ago you ate it. My first test on a finger prick blood drop was 390 (they'd like it to be 120 or less but, if you're treating diabetes, they'd just rather it didn't peak over 170 after a meal). You will start out measuring this with a finger prick 3 times a day--once when you get up in the morning after a long fast, once right before you eat your largest meal of the day, and once 2 hours after eating said meal. I entered all these measurements in a spread sheet for a couple months and got a nice incentive as I saw the graphs continually drop. Make sure you wash your hands really well before the prick or you can get a false high measurement.

Glucose is blood sugar. The more sugar you eat, the higher your blood sugar level. It is not the only kind of sugar (table sugar is sucrose and fructose, milk has lactose) but other sugars are easily converted into glucose. Sugar is a "simple carbohydrate" while other foods have "complex carbohydrates" (starches, grains, etc. Think potatoes, rice, noodles, bread...). Even complex carbohydrates are fairly easily converted to glucose.

As I understand it, type 1 diabetes means you aren't producing insulin and need to take insulin drugs to control blood sugar. Type 2 means your pancreas can producs SOME insulin, but not as much as it used to and/or your body has become inefficient in using the insulin you DO produce. Sometimes this can be corrected, at least in part. (The reason you had to pee often was that your body was full of unused glucose so your kidneys got rid of in by using lots of water and flushing it out your bladder.) Given that you still produce some insulin, the goal is to keep your blood sugar from spikingt too high for your pancreas to handle it.

The corrective actions are:

You will be given some medication. Most likely Metformin or generic equivalent. It is so pervasive in the US that it commonly shows up in water tests of the Great Lakes. I started off at 2000 mg (4 @500 mg pills) per day. Make sure you take them with meals, and spread them over the day if possible. Otherwise you can get diarrreah. Metformin helps your body use insulin to convert glucose in your cells. I also got an initial pill which helped my pancreas produce more insulin but stopped it 3 or 4 months later when my blood sugar hit 50. You may be able to lower dosage or even eliminate the medication if the following work well.

Lose weight. Lower body weight helps you use what insulin you do have.

Get exercise. This not only helps you lose weight, but also helps your body use the insulin.

Adjust your diet to eat fewer carbohydrates. Stay away from sugary drinks like soda pop and fruit juice. Cut down on bread, potatos, rice, noodles, grains. Learn to read the ingredient lables on packaged food. Get a book or find a website which tells you how many grams of carbs are in most foods or in fast food restaurant menus. Shoot for a target of no more than 60 g of carbs per meal. Your blood sugar will spike about 2 hours after you begin eating your meal. If you want a sweet desert, wait until 3 or 4 hours later when your blood sugar has dropped back down, just keep the size of the desert fairly small. Milk has 13 g carbs per 8 oz. glass. You can get unsweetened almond "milk" which will only have 1 g. You can also buy a small squirt bottle of artificial sweetener. I bring one with me to Pattaya to use in the tea or coffee they usually give you with breakfast. They sell similar flavored squirt bottles which I sometimes squirt into the bottled water I drink. I don't see many sugar free things in Thailand outside of Coke Zero or Diet Coke, but you should be able to find them at home, you'll just have to do some initial searching.

Take note of "fiber" on the nutrition lables. It is included in the carbohydrate total but does NOT raise your blood sugar, so subtract it from the total number. There are high fiber breads and buns (usually labled "light" bread, at least in the US) that have half the carbs of regular bread. Also high fiber breakfast cereals. When you eat a high fiber diet you will poop more often but that also turns out to be good for your colon health. Whole fruits are much healthier than fruit juice because they have a lot of fiber, but you still need to count the carbs..

There are many foods labled "no sugar added" or "sugar free" such as cookies, ice cream, candy, etc. They will either use "fake" sugar (sucralose, aspartame, etc. used in things like Diet Coke) or sugar alcohols which are molecules which can trigger your "sweetness" taste buds but are slow to digest and often make it out your back end before digesting [note: these can sometimes feed gut bacteria and cause increased farting]. You can look up on the internet which of these have the least impact and check the ingredients on pre-packaged foods to see which are being used. Canned fruits are usually packed in a sugary syrup, but there are some "Light" ones packed in water.

I followed the above. I lost 40 pounds, got my A1C down in the 5's (one time as low as 4.9) I rarely do the finger prick blood test any more as I know fairly well how many carbs I eat and how it will come out. I am now only taking 2 Metformin pills per day and could possible go lower in the future. I think you caught it sooner than I did so you may come out even better.

Good luck.

[Jaws56]

Diagnosed 4 years ago and the main thing I did was lose 20 kilos which was easy all I  did was stop drinking soft drinks especially Coke. My sugar level dropped to 6 and has been the same since. Oh and I take two tablets a day.

[Shaggydog67]

On 04/06/2018 at 14:37, alex1981 said:

Today the doctor my GP got my blood test results back he said your glucose is 7.3 ,didnt mean anything to me actually,then he said the cut off is 6.1 

he said you have diabetes and i need you to urgently see a diabetes specialist this friday to give you medication 

he looked actually more sadder than me and i felt like hugging him

i said but i feel ok and i have no sickness other than peeing a lot during the night i feel strong

Just the way he told me looking sad has got me sad now,poor bastard i hope he recovers.

Anyway he said you need to lose weight and diet but he will send me to a diabetess educator after the specialist.

Anyone here have diabetes? Next month im off to Thailand for 6 weeks,should i see anyone in Thailand that could cure it.

my age is 50 so i thought i would get it one day eating too many choc biscuits,but im 115kg so i guess my weight ...?..

Don't kid yourself mate, unless you want your feet amputated, blindness & multiple system breakdown it is serious shit.

I work in the health system & there is an epidemic in the western world now.

Realize the last 50 years have fucked your body over & you need to take drastic action unless you want a premature death & drastically reduced quality of life...

- Jason Fung check him out...

- Carbohydrates are your enemy now you are diabetic...check out primal. paleo or vegetarian diets.

 

Continue living your life & die, your choice mate, but will take work & discipline to turn it around. The world will keep spinning regardless & the fact that big corporations & the US recommendations for diet(That were driven by the grain industry) have meant that your government guidelines have allowed you to be a walking death sentence are irrelevant - you know you have a problem now, the question is whether you have thee intestinal fortitude to do what you need to fo to overcome the problem...

 

All the best, big task in front of you, but with some research you can overcome it & have great life...

 

[likeaking]

On 6/4/2018 at 09:30, bluechef said:

 Nobody dies from diabetes, but lots die from the complications caused by it. Lose weight , exercise eat less empty carbs, like spuds,  white rice,  sugary drinks, i'm type 2 but with exercise and weight loss . I can more or less eat and drink what I like. Within reason.

This. The complications of type 2 diabetes are blindness, kidney failure, heart disease, neuropathy (loss of feeling), amputations, etc. With unaddressed diabetes, any skin break or irritation can easily become an infection, eventually necessitating amputation. The insidious part is you feel no pain due to neuropathy, so don't know when you have a potential problem or your newly impaired sight won't let you see the problem. A blister or ingrown toenail can infect a toe leading to successive amputations all the way to above the knee, then there's nothing left to do. Trivializing or procrastinating addressing a diabetes diagnosis can result in a long, slow, but not painful, death. Exercise, diet, medication and monitoring are useful in controlling diabetes. Work closely with a physician to address your illness. 

You know what they say about hospitalized diabetics? The longer they stay, the shorter they get.