Diagianosed with diabetes

[alex1981]

Today the doctor my GP got my blood test results back he said your glucose is 7.3 ,didnt mean anything to me actually,then he said the cut off is 6.1 

he said you have diabetes and i need you to urgently see a diabetes specialist this friday to give you medication 

he looked actually more sadder than me and i felt like hugging him

i said but i feel ok and i have no sickness other than peeing a lot during the night i feel strong

Just the way he told me looking sad has got me sad now,poor bastard i hope he recovers.

Anyway he said you need to lose weight and diet but he will send me to a diabetess educator after the specialist.

Anyone here have diabetes? Next month im off to Thailand for 6 weeks,should i see anyone in Thailand that could cure it.

my age is 50 so i thought i would get it one day eating too many choc biscuits,but im 115kg so i guess my weight ...?..

[CyberPro]

15 minutes ago, alex1981 said:

Anyone here have diabetes? Next month im off to Thailand for 6 weeks,should i see anyone in Thailand that could cure it.

my age is 50 so i thought i would get it one day eating too many choc biscuits,but im 115kg so i guess my weight ...?..

Hoping to find a doctor in LOS who can "cure" diabetes is the wrong way to look at it. 

115kg is 254 lbs according to an online converter. Presumably this is overweight for your height? 

Diabetes puts one at risk for a number of horrible things: blindness, loss of sensation in extremities leading to physical damage, gangrene, amputation, etc. 

If you are overweight and have a bad diet, start dealing with that immediately. 

See the specialist and take whatever is prescribed...for now. 

I prefer natural remedies to big pharma, whenever that works. There is a HUGE business selling natural supplements, SOME of which work. Do your research and choose wisely. 

Good luck and get on that weight loss and nutritional improvement program now. 

[j_d66]

I have been diagnosed with diabetes several years ago.

There is good medicine now and with that i am under control.

Funny thing is I told my Doctor that every time I travel to Thailand my numbers always drop dramatically.

I asked him to prescribe me some trips to Thailand as a treatment.  He laughed and thought that was funny.

Actually I think it is a combination of the food and exercise since I do alot of walking while there.

Take it serious enough to get your numbers under control and it won't really be that big of a deal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[alex1981]

6 minutes ago, j_d66 said:

I have been diagnosed with diabetes several years ago.

There is good medicine now and with that i am under control.

Funny thing is I told my Doctor that every time I travel to Thailand my numbers always drop dramatically.

I asked him to prescribe me some trips to Thailand as a treatment.  He laughed and thought that was funny.

Actually I think it is a combination of the food and exercise since I do alot of walking while there.

Take it serious enough to get your numbers under control and it won't really be that big of a deal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do u mean by numbers?

sorry to ask but he just diagnosed me a few hours ago and i will see a diabetes educator on friday to start medication

not sure why he couldnt give me medication straight away,i was feeling bloody good and energetic until i went to the doctors this morning about a cold.

im really feeling sad now,even the GP seemed miserable telling me 

I guess the specialist will let me know what to do from Friday

7.3 is my BSL is that the numbers your talking about?

[jocky king]

Numbers ... low numbers while in Thailand . ( that what j-d66 mean ) 

I think Thai foods will help you to reduce  the level . Try do excerise everyday .  Avoids cakes , sweets , cokes etc.  if you listened to the dietary advice , you will be ok . You can check blood by using testing equipment by yourself . Many people has it , my brother has it for a decade , he is fine cos he is doing what the doctor told him to do . You may not be able to eat your favourite foods or drink , but that’s life Best of luck . 

[j_d66]

21 minutes ago, alex1981 said:

What do u mean by numbers?

sorry to ask but he just diagnosed me a few hours ago and i will see a diabetes educator on friday to start medication

not sure why he couldnt give me medication straight away,i was feeling bloody good and energetic until i went to the doctors this morning about a cold.

im really feeling sad now,even the GP seemed miserable telling me 

I guess the specialist will let me know what to do from Friday

7.3 is my BSL is that the numbers your talking about?

Numbers are your sugar levels in your blood.

Most Doctors will use A1C to test because it is the best and most reliable indicator over a period of time.

On a daily basis I will test my blood sugar or glucose levels a little different test than A1C.  They have meters and test strips.

I do it in the morning before eating as that is when your levels should be the lowest.  

A normal person has sufficient insulin in their body to reduce blood glucose to normal levels when they eat which is when it tends to go up.  A person with Diabetes typically doesn't have sufficient levels of insulin to keep it under control so they need medicine and probably a change in diet to help it.

You do the monitoring to make sure it is not getting to high or low.

It really is nothing to freak out about.  Do some reading about it there is lots of information on the internet and talk to your doctor but there is no reason you can't live a normal life with it.

For most normal is around 70-120 ish.

I shoot to be between 100-150 every time I test and my Doctor is happy with those levels as well.  

By the way when I was diagnosed at the Doctor my level that day was 450.  Not a recommended level for sure as some are dead at that level.

Once I learned more about it I found out I had many of the symptoms of diabetes.

 

Probably my biggest change was to cut out sugar sodas which wasn't that big of a deal.

With proper management you don't have to totally give up all the foods you like.  

Just get educated and get your weight under control and all will be ok

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Pumpuynarak]

Do something serious about it NOW you have been diagnosed, diet, eat the right foods and daily strenuous exercise. I've had it for 17 years having been diagnosed at 50, i take meds (not insulin injections) to keep it somewhat under control. My A1C is always good so my doc is happy, i have 3 monthly check ups and am usually in the 150 range (Thai Type).

I too have an Accu-Chek monitor to check myself at infrequent intervals just to see how i'm doing between doc visits.

Take this complaint deadly serious and deal with it with gusto and enthusiasm whilst its in its infancy, you will not regret it, it will kill you prematurely if you don't take it serious, i did'nt when first diagnosed as like you i felt fine then things got progressively worse, good luck.

[SkippyRoo]

pumpuynarak. A couple of question if I may. What beers are okay foryour type  (I am assuming you have type 2) diabetes. .?

How do you say diabetes in Thai?

I am concerned that they will (TiT) mix up cokes and put sugary coke in my drink rather than diet

does Manteo soda have much sugar?

cheers Skippyroo 

 

 

[Pheat]

43 minutes ago, jocky king said:

I think Thai foods will help you to reduce  the level

This is totally not the case .

Thailand has one of the worst rate of raising diabetes cases in the world.

Due mainly to all the sugary drinks drank and all the added sugar put into a lot of Thai food. Inc white rice and the almost total lack of exercise by most Thai folks.

Not easy sticking to a very low carb diet in Thailand unless you prepare nearly all your own meals.

Stick to a very low carb diet you will have to do if you have diabetes  and lose a few kilos and take regular exercise.

[jocky king]

1 minute ago, Pheat said:

This is totally not the case .

Thailand has one of the worst rate of raising diabetes cases in the world.

Due mainly to all the sugary drinks drank and all the added sugar put into a lot of Thai food. Inc white rice and the almost total lack of exercise by most Thai folks.

Not easy sticking to a very low carb diet in Thailand unless you prepare nearly all your own meals.

Stick to a very low carb diet you will have to do if you have diabetes  and lose a few kilos and take regular exercise.

Really !!!! Ok ... I lost two stone last trip 555

[Pheat]

7 minutes ago, SkippyRoo said:

pumpuynarak. A couple of question if I may. What beers are okay foryour type  (I am assuming you have type 2) diabetes. .?

How do you say diabetes in Thai?

I am concerned that they will (TiT) mix up cokes and put sugary coke in my drink rather than diet

does Manteo soda have much sugar?

cheers Skippyroo 

 

 

You should not really drink any beer if you have type2 diabetes.

But SM is the best option in Thailand the lowest carb beer available 

Manteo soda has a  crazy amount of sugar about 30% ore than regular coke.

 

[Pheat]

20 minutes ago, jocky king said:

Really !!!! Ok ... I lost two stone last trip 555

You probably walk miles every day whilst in Thailand just around the pool table 555

[Zeb]

2 hours ago, alex1981 said:

Today the doctor my GP got my blood test results back he said your glucose is 7.3 ,didnt mean anything to me actually,then he said the cut off is 6.1 

Anyone here have diabetes? Next month im off to Thailand for 6 weeks,should i see anyone in Thailand that could cure it.

 

I assume you have been diagnosed with diabetes type 2. If you are not taking insulin which is used for diabetes type 1, then you are probably type 2.

Thailand is the last place to look for a 'cure' - but there are some excellent treatments around which can reverse type 2 in many people. Not all people but many.

Professor Roy Taylor from Newcastle University in the UK is a leading diabetes expert and has found that reversal is possible. It requires significant weight loss, about 15% of body weight to reverse insulin resistance which is a precursor to diabetes itself.

But, BIG BUT - you must be committed to seeing it through. The alternative is far far worse - diabetes will in all likelihood kill you in a very bad way unless to do something about it.

Steps to take -

1) Google Roy Taylor - Newcastle university to start with to confirm what I'm saying.

There is some very good stuff on him on youTube. Search YouTube for Roy Taylor - Reversing the Irreversal

2) The 8 Week Blood Sugar Diet by Dr Michael Mosley is an excellent and effective program - IF you knuckle down and commit to doing it properly. You can buy the book over the internet here in Australia for about $30. There is an accompanying cookbook as well.

This is all based on medical science using Roy Taylors work.

I can give you more info if you are really interested  & committed etc.

I did the Blood Sugar Diet for 12 weeks - lost 40kgs over about 7 months and all my blood tests came back into the healthy range. I was pre diabetic and caught it before it progressed.

Diabetes is a very bad way to die - and Roy Tayor's work has shown many people can avoid having to be on medicine for the rest of their lives - even then Diabetes may still kill them.

It can send you blind, make you impotent, accelerate heart disease, cause some cancers and limb amputations are not uncommon.

Do something mate. For starters you must reduce carbs and sugar intake.

Let me know if you want more info etc.

But please take some effective steps before its too late.

 

[davidge]

My father was diabetic for many years. He was on insulin for a while but it was mainly treated with meds.

Glimepiride was the starting point then Metformin was added but that gave him the shits so was replaced with Saxagliptin.

His blood sugar levels, which I took twice a day, varied between 8 and 22!!

HbA1C readings got as high as 120 but we ended up stabilising them between 60 and 80.

As I said, they did try insulin for a while, which he hated, but it was stopped as readings became a little low as he started eating less.

Diet is the main solution. Not just avoiding obviously sugary foods but also eating fewer carbohydrates.

Blood sugar reading if 7.3 isn’t too bad and something you can bring down with careful diet and exercise. Get one of the blood glucose monitors from a pharmacist and start checking your levels a couple of times a day & keeping a record.

[60minuteman]

Cut processed carbs and sugar now, the condition can be reversed quickly but if you don't radically change your diet you may increase your risk of a lot of nasty diseases and conditions

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/diagnosis-diet/201609/preventing-alzheimer-s-disease-may-be-easier-you-think

[dave01]

Look for lean meats, chicken (skin off), fish... protein is good.. Pretty well eat as much fresh protein as you like.. Eat fresh vegetables that you like, except for things like spuds, white rice etc.  If you like rice, use brown. A very general and loose rule of thumb, after about 3:00 pm, try to avoid eating anything white. Bread, Pasta, Spuds, white rice etc. A good substitute for spuds is sweet potato.

If you like stir frys, eat loads of 'em.  Some fresh chicken or meat or fish, and loads of vegies...Go easy on the rice, if you want rice, use brown rice. With white rice all the goodness is thrashed out of it, by removing the husk.  The husk has all the goodies, fibre etc... White rice is High on the glycemic index, and will cause Blood Sugar spikes. Brown rice is medium.

As others have said, cutting down processed carbs is the way to go. If you must eat bread, and many must, eat it of a morning. That way, the energy the carbs in bread provide, can be used as fuel for your body for the rest of the day. 

Beer such as San Mig and Singha light are OK... low carb beers. The worst here is Leo... Vodka and soda, tho pretty boring is also not a bad drink.  If you like Coke, sorry there is no good way for a diabetic to drink it. If you must, coke zero, or as they call it now, Coke No Sugar, will have very little impact on your blood sugar levels. I often have a Vodka and coke zero, and it does bugger all to BGL, in my case.

By removing processed carbs from your diet late in the day, you will see your  Fasting BGL steadily decline to the normal range. Also a bit of exercise  doesn't go astray. Just walking will help greatly.

 

[Pumpuynarak]

7 hours ago, jocky king said:

Really !!!! Ok ... I lost two stone last trip 555

That was the shagging lol

[Pumpuynarak]

Some great advice on here guys, i concur with it all, its a life changer, think shagging, something that is dear to us all lol 

[Pumpuynarak]

8 hours ago, SkippyRoo said:

pumpuynarak. A couple of question if I may. What beers are okay foryour type  (I am assuming you have type 2) diabetes. .?

How do you say diabetes in Thai?

I am concerned that they will (TiT) mix up cokes and put sugary coke in my drink rather than diet

does Manteo soda have much sugar?

cheers Skippyroo 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Pheat said:

You should not really drink any beer if you have type2 diabetes.

But SM is the best option in Thailand the lowest carb beer available 

Manteo soda has a  crazy amount of sugar about 30% ore than regular coke.

 

Bingo

[overseas516]

8 hours ago, jocky king said:

Really !!!! Ok ... I lost two stone last trip 555

But you had the shits after indulging in too much seafood Jocky? 

[j_d66]

9 hours ago, Pheat said:

This is totally not the case .

Thailand has one of the worst rate of raising diabetes cases in the world.

Due mainly to all the sugary drinks drank and all the added sugar put into a lot of Thai food. Inc white rice and the almost total lack of exercise by most Thai folks.

Not easy sticking to a very low carb diet in Thailand unless you prepare nearly all your own meals.

Stick to a very low carb diet you will have to do if you have diabetes  and lose a few kilos and take regular exercise.

what is the source of your information on this.

From what I can find Thailand is currently 106 out of 194 countries.  Not to bad really

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SH.STA.DIAB.ZS/rankings

I often try to test the girls I am with when I am doing my own testing in the morning and when I can talk them into the fact that the test doesn't hurt they will do it.  In 100% of the girls I have tested they all have been below 100. 

 

 

[regyai]

9 hours ago, SkippyRoo said:

 

How do you say diabetes in Thai?

 

 

Ma Waan

 

 

The Newcastle Uni 600 calorie a day (+ a little leafy veg to keep the system moving) is totally dire but effective.

Apparently, it is severe enough to impact on fats within internal organs (liver etc). I completed it and for a time reversed my diabetes but the reversal reversed and was unsustainable.

In your shoes Id jump at doing it (I was I fear too far down the track), followed by low carbs and a life style change.

[alex1981]

Yes i will look at this diet,  i need more vegies in my diet 

i have to Friday to see the doctor to go on medication , i hope this disease doesnt impact on any future job applications 

im so angry with myself for letting my diet and lifestyle go !

maybe this is some kind of omen to get it back together

im not cutting out coffee however ,does anyone know if ciffee is still ok 

i will have to buy a blood glucose monitor machine and go through all this bullshit of taking this tablets from friday 

I dont want to die yet but the way that GP Doctor sat there and gave me the diabetes results really creeped me out almost like he knew something i didnt , 

I felt really good and strong before walking into that doctors office yesterday only went there for a fucking cold and now i come out fucking dying  and with all sorts of imaginary pain since going,chest,legs,feet bum

 maybe i will fucking cark it befire Friday who knows,the way that doctor gave me the news its almost like he knew isomething i didnt the cunt 

I tried to make a joke of it by saying i will run around the block ,but the miserable prick said “ this is no laughing matter”

oh well off to thailand next month hopefully go whilst getting a blowjob case of the smiling stiff 

 

[regyai]

Knowing only what you've written, I suspect you've misinterpreted your predicament and the dour Doc has freaked you with his antics out of all proportion to your condition.

This certainly won't kill you by Friday or anytime soon, whilst the condition has the potential to kill  the aim is to make that not until long after you die of old age first ;)

[bluechef]

 Nobody dies from diabetes, but lots die from the complications caused by it. Lose weight , exercise eat less empty carbs, like spuds,  white rice,  sugary drinks, i'm type 2 but with exercise and weight loss . I can more or less eat and drink what I like. Within reason.