Bicycle Accident - Who Was At Fault?

[irongate]

Pattaya - two lane, one-way road.  Taxi pulls over to the left side.  There's plenty of space between the taxi and the oncoming cars in their lanes.  Two passengers in the back seat.  One exits on the left (sidewalk side).  The other passenger opens the right side (road side) door and a bicycle hits the door. Bicycle and rider fall to the ground.

 

I know more information may be needed, but.....

 

Who is at fault (see poll above)?

[OoJohnnyoO]

 

Here in Australia, passenger opening the door is at fault.

Depends on what the law is in Thailand.

 

Didn't vote, can't see polls on Tapatalk.

[Harry Brown]

I'd say to some degree both are to blame, the passenger should have checked to see the way was clear before opening his door. Also the bicycle rider should have been alert for such a situation.

 

 

Or whoever has the most baht.

[Shuggy]

If anyone involved was farang, its their fault.

[Pattaya_Brian]

The person opening the door. 

[FROST MEDIC999]

The daft cnut who opened the door without looking

 

The daft cnut who was on a bike

 

The daft cnut who stopped his taxi allowing the passengers out

 

And finally any daft cnut who had already been parked along the road

 

The only person not at fault on this occasion was me as I wasn't there ☺

[yobbo]

Yeah the guy opening the door is at fault. He might as well opened it while a car was driving past and had a car wipe it out.

[davidge]

As a general rule of thumb, I blame cyclists in any situation like this.

Smug, self-centred bastards.

 

 

:-)

[muldoon]

Obviously, it was the ladyboy's fault that made the cyclist veer towards the taxi 

[irongate]

Yeah the guy opening the door is at fault. He might as well opened it while a car was driving past and had a car wipe it out.

 

As I stated in the OP, there was plenty of room between the taxi and the cars in their lanes, so no danger of a car hitting the door.  The bike was riding in the space between the car lane and the parked taxi.  I guess I should have made that clearer.

[ZRHuser]

It does not matter how much space there was, it's the fault of the person opening the door. You do have to look back if you open a Car door. 

[misteregg]

As already stated, if a non-Thai is involved it's gonna be his

[wadman]

It was your fault, irongate. If you weren't there to witness the accident, it wouldn't have happened (sort of like a reverse heisenberg uncertainty principle).

[Skalliwag]

The daft cnut who opened the door without looking

The daft cnut who was on a bike

The daft cnut who stopped his taxi allowing the passengers out

And finally any daft cnut who had already been parked along the road

The only person not at fault on this occasion was me as I wasn't there ☺

So in other words,the daft cnut that wasn't there?

How,is the bicycle BtW?

[ub6daveb9]

As a general rule of thumb, I blame cyclists in any situation like this.

Smug, self-centred bastards.

 

 

:-)

 

I agree

Keep arrogant cyclists off the road

[SLEUTH]

op lost me at onv

 

Pattaya - two lane, one-way road.  Taxi pulls over to the left side.  There's plenty of space between the taxi and the oncoming cars in their lanes.  Two passengers in the back seat.  One exits on the left (sidewalk side).  The other passenger opens the right side (road side) door and a bicycle hits the door. Bicycle and rider fall to the ground.

 

I know more information may be needed, but.....

 

Who is at fault (see poll above)?

Lost me at oncoming cars on a one way road

[keverton]

Taxi passenger for 2 reasons, firstly he should have checked to make sure it was safe to open the door, secondly he could have slid over the seat and got out safely on the kerbside.

[FROST MEDIC999]

So in other words,the daft cnut that wasn't there?

How,is the bicycle BtW?

I knew I missed a daft cnut somewhere ☺

[just hanging]

guy opening the door and I guess that would be any country in the world.    I watch carefully on my motorbike and bicycle, they do it often

 

when I park my car sometimes on a busy road it is really hard to open with all the bikes flying around

[Scuba+]

I agree

Keep arrogant cyclists off the road

I don't see arrogant cyclists in Pattaya, back home i would agree, cycling side by side blocking traffic is common and wanky.

 

In Pattaya riding aggresively or defensively depending on the situation is important.

 

The other week i was on my bike carry a couple of golf clubs, lost my balance filtering through traffic with the clubs and banged a trucks mirror out of place. Thai guy jumps out runs round, i quickly put mirror back in place and a miracle occurred, he didn't try to stitch me up for cash.

[regyai]

Blame is apportioned by the police and insurance agents in attendance

 

Usually it sways in favour of the person of perceived higher status

 

So Johnny Pushbike....zero status (especially if falang - kee nok) & no insurance

errr I wonder how that'll pan out.

[regyai]

 

The other week i was on my bike carry a couple of golf clubs, lost my balance filtering through traffic with the clubs and banged a trucks mirror out of place. Thai guy jumps out runs round, i quickly put mirror back in place and a miracle occurred, he didn't try to stitch me up for cash.

 

 

Good for you

 

Another Thai / time / place

 

might have shot you

[forcebwithu]

I agree

Keep arrogant cyclists off the road

 

Be nice if we could keep all arrogant drivers off the road, regardless of what they drive/ride.

 

I don't see arrogant cyclists in Pattaya, back home i would agree, cycling side by side blocking traffic is common and wanky.

 

 

Probably don't see as many arrogant cyclists in Pattaya as most are single riders.

 

I occasionally ride with friends that meet a couple of times a week for rides. A few in that group ride two and even three abreast, even on roads that in mind are only safe to ride single file. Mentioned this to the offenders, but they truly are the arrogant ones having no regard for their own safety, let alone the traffic that gets slowed down behind them. Can't fix stupid comes to mind.

[mbamber]

I agree

Keep arrogant cyclists off the road

Keep them off the Pavement, one hit my elbow when I was going to a meeting could not drive due to my arm being broken shouted abuse at me for not moving onto slippery grass.

[irongate]

op lost me at onv

 

Lost me at oncoming cars on a one way road

 

You're right.  It was a poor choice of words.  I meant the cars approaching from behind the taxi.