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France to introduce fines for people caught paying for sex

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Paris - People caught paying for sex in France are to face fines of up to 1,500 euros (1,714 dollars), France's lower house of parliament agreed on Wednesday.

 

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and we in america always heard how we were repressed and Europe was free with sex.......the world is coming to an end as we know it, they good thing is pattaya will be last

and we in america always heard how we were repressed and Europe was free with sex.......the world is coming to an end as we know it, they good thing is pattaya will be last

I believe it is everywhere in Europe EXCEPT France. My buddy went recently and said there was zero action.

So if you go with a hooker can you then legally refuse to pay her because it is against the law?

Ridiculous that it's ok to sell, but illigal to buy. Feminazis at work!

 

I suppose prostitutes in surrounding nations better start learning some French..

Edited by Hans Bumsel

Sex worker organisations criticised the plans, saying that increased punishment of paid sex would only make prostitution more dangerous.

 

Another instance of ignoring the truth about the consequences of these draconian laws to further a regressive agenda:

 

The Socialist deputy who first proposed the law in 2013, Maude Olivier, said the penalisation of customers would “reduce demand” and allow prostitutes to be considered as “victims and not offenders”.

 

It took 4 attempts to push this through, Sweden, Norway, iceland now France, the UK has been hearing similar rumbles by regressive leftists lately, look at what happened when Corbyn said that he thought it should be decriminalised.

 

The Labour leader sparked outrage when he called for a more "civilised" approach to the debate this week.

But Harriet Harman, the party's former deputy leader, hit out at his views, saying prostitution was "abuse", not an industry.

Ms Phillips (Backbencher Jess Phillips) also responded by suggesting that the law should be changed to criminalise the people paying for sex.

Before the General Election, some Labour MPs called called for the law to be changed to make paying for sex illegal - the so-called Nordic model.

Ex-Home Office minister Fiona Mactaggart put forward amendments to the law in 2014 – backed by Seema Malhotra, who is now in Mr Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet.

 

Just a matter of time.

I refer to the so-called "nordic model" as the "thai model". Just as many streetwalkers in Oslo as before (less agressive tho) and thai massage shops are popping up all over the place offering happy endings. Technically illegal in both countries but the police just occationally raid a place or slap a fine on some poor john who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Edited by Buttviking

I believe it is everywhere in Europe EXCEPT France. My buddy went recently and said there was zero action.

Germany and the Benelux countries are (still) free.

I do not live in Europe and am unfamiliar with the scene so I speak with no authority at all on the subject. I do feel however that given the lack of pussy for sale may lead to some more serious sexual crime against women by frustrated males. The massive influx of male refugees arriving in Europe will not help the situation.

Edited by gentleenforcer

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I do not live in Europe and am unfamiliar with the scene so I speak with no authority at all on the subject. I do feel however that given the lack of pussy for sale may lead to some more serious sexual crime against women by frustrated males. The massive influx of male refugees arriving in Europe will not help the situation.

 

Not sure I completely agree, but I have noted that many of the crazies behind school shootings in the US are in fact young male virgins who never had a girlfriend. A quick visit to a BJ bar might have averted dozens of deaths.....

Germany and the Benelux countries are (still) free.

I am not sure what you mean by free.

I am not sure what you mean by free.

 

I guess

free = prostitution is legal.

There are plenty of brothels in Spain and Germany

I guess

free = prostitution is legal.

I was saying everywhere in Europe was legal except France.

I was saying everywhere in Europe was legal except France.

No - paying for sex is also illegal in Sweden.

 

Posted from my mobile so I blame any spelling errors on that.

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No - paying for sex is also illegal in Sweden.

 

Posted from my mobile so I blame any spelling errors on that.

Well prostitution is illegal in LOS too. Illegal doesn't mean unavailable. It is actually hard to find in France (from what my friend told me).

Sex worker organisations criticised the plans, saying that increased punishment of paid sex would only make prostitution more dangerous.

 

Another instance of ignoring the truth about the consequences of these draconian laws to further a regressive agenda:

 

The Socialist deputy who first proposed the law in 2013, Maude Olivier, said the penalisation of customers would “reduce demand” and allow prostitutes to be considered as “victims and not offenders”.

 

It took 4 attempts to push this through, Sweden, Norway, iceland now France, the UK has been hearing similar rumbles by regressive leftists lately, look at what happened when Corbyn said that he thought it should be decriminalised.

 

The Labour leader sparked outrage when he called for a more "civilised" approach to the debate this week.

But Harriet Harman, the party's former deputy leader, hit out at his views, saying prostitution was "abuse", not an industry.

Ms Phillips (Backbencher Jess Phillips) also responded by suggesting that the law should be changed to criminalise the people paying for sex.

Before the General Election, some Labour MPs called called for the law to be changed to make paying for sex illegal - the so-called Nordic model.

Ex-Home Office minister Fiona Mactaggart put forward amendments to the law in 2014 – backed by Seema Malhotra, who is now in Mr Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet.

 

Just a matter of time.

Since June last year, Northern Ireland has been using the Swedish model even though the justice minister and PSNI said it couldn't be properly enforced. Basically the wording means that a husband buying his wife a present then shagging that night could be prosecuted. From what I've heard similiar legistlation has been passed in the Republic, prob because the don't want the horny northerners crossing the border, but I'm not sure when this comes into effect.

 

It seems their attempts to stop people trafficking and child exploitation will just drive it further underground and make it dangerous for all those who choose tow work in the industry.

No - paying for sex is also illegal in Sweden.

 

Posted from my mobile so I blame any spelling errors on that.

Also illegal in Finland, Norway, and who knows where too.

I wonder if this law also applies to women paying for sex or gay prostitution?

 

I'm guessing it won't, at the end of the day it's just another way to further repress heterosexual males, nothing more, nothing less..

Edited by Hans Bumsel

Also illegal in Finland, Norway, and who knows where too.

Add Albania, Andorra, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Lithuania, Macedonia, Malta, Moldova, Russia, Serbia, Iceland, Lichtenstein, Ukraine and, unsuprisingly the Vatican. The law is unclear in Spain, Romania recently decriminilized it.

 

In addition brothels are illegal in Armenia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Faeroe Islands, France, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Luxembourg, Monaco, Poland, Portugal,

Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey and United Kingdom. 

 

Obviously enforcement of the law is rather lax in many places.

 

All brothels in Turkey on the other hand are gorvernment owned. 

 

About Finland tho, is it not only illegal to solicit a prostitute if it is done in public or said person is a victim of trafficing?

Edited by Buttviking

Add Albania, Andorra, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Lithuania, Macedonia, Malta, Moldova, Russia, Serbia, Iceland, Lichtenstein, Ukraine and, unsuprisingly the Vatican. The law is unclear in Spain, Romania recently decriminilized it.

 

In addition brothels are illegal in Armenia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Faeroe Islands, France, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Luxembourg, Monaco, Poland, Portugal,

Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey and United Kingdom. 

 

Obviously enforcement of the law is rather lax in many places.

 

All brothels in Turkey on the other hand are gorvernment owned. 

 

About Finland tho, is it not only illegal to solicit a prostitute if it is done in public or said person is a victim of trafficing?

Prostitution and pimping (brothels) are two different things.

Prostitution and pimping (brothels) are two different things.

Which is why I made the distinction.

 

Btw pimping is only legal in Greece and the Netherlands. Brothels in a few more of the European countries.

Edited by Buttviking

Well the prostitutes can advertize inca National newspaper and the customers does not get arrested (yet) in Denmark. The customers sometimes get arrested in Sweden. Really big difference.

Germany is even more relaxed - but some rumours that it might be changed there too.

 

Posted from my mobile so I blame any spelling errors on that.

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Well prostitution is illegal in LOS too. Illegal doesn't mean unavailable. It is actually hard to find in France (from what my friend told me).

No, it isn't. Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand.

No, it isn't. Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand.

Let me rephrase.. It is not legal (and thus regulated).

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