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.. holy! .. shit! .. despite all the pressure brought down on Thailand this last year, the bans and yellow cards and shame and international condemnations, the shit here just keeps going on, and on, and on! .. these soulless f#*king animals just do not give up!

 

.. a lengthy, detailed investigative report by the Associated Press on the thriving Thai seafood industry slave labor .. disturbing first-hand reporting.

 

 

 

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/794021/

 

Shrimp peeled by slaves in Thailand

 

·         14 Dec 2015

 

·         WRITER: ASSOCIATED PRESS

 

 

RELATED STORIES

 

·         'Hellish' human-trafficking trade to resume, Amnesty warns

 

·         Thai Union calls shrimp slavery report 'another wakeup call'

 

·         hotels accused of poor pay, ill-treatment of migrant staff

 

 

 

SAMUT SAKHON - Every morning at 2 o'clock, they heard a kick on the door and a threat: Get up or get beaten. For the next 16 hours, No.31 and his wife stood with their aching hands in ice water in the factory that owned them. They ripped the guts, heads, tails and shells off shrimp bound for overseas markets, including grocery stores and all-you-can-eat buffets across the United States, Europe and Asia.

 

After being sold to the Gig Peeling Factory, they were at the mercy of their Thai bosses, trapped with nearly 100 other Burmese migrants. Children worked alongside them, including a girl so tiny she had to stand on a stool to reach the peeling table. Some had been there for months, even years, getting little or no pay. Always, someone was watching.

 

No names were ever used, only numbers given by their boss - Tin Nyo Win was No.31.

 

Pervasive human trafficking has helped turn Thailand into one of the world's biggest shrimp providers. Despite repeated promises by businesses and government to clean up the country's US$7 billion seafood export industry, an Associated Press investigation has found shrimp peeled by modern-day slaves is reaching the US, Europe and Asia.

 

·         See also'Slave Labour' labels sought for Thai food exports

 

·         Activist urges EU to rethink approach

 

 

The problem is fuelled by corruption and complicity among police and authorities. Arrests and prosecutions are rare. Raids can end up sending migrants without proper paperwork to jail, while owners go unpunished.

 

More than 2,000 trapped fishermen have been rescued this year as a result of an ongoing Associated Press investigative series into slavery in the Thai seafood industry. The reports also have led to a dozen arrests, millions of dollars' worth of seizures and proposals for new US federal laws.

 

 

Hundreds of shrimp peeling sheds are hidden in plain sight on residential streets or behind walls with no signs in Samut Sakhon, a port town an hour outside Bangkok. The AP found one factory that was enslaving dozens of workers, and runaway migrants led rights groups to the Gig shed and a third facility. All three sheds held 50 to 100 people each, many locked inside.

 

As Tin Nyo Win soon found out for himself, there's no easy escape. One woman had been working at Gig for eight years. Another man ended up peeling shrimp there after breaking free from an equally brutal factory.

 

"I was shocked after working there a while, and I realised there was no way out," said Tin Nyo Win, 22, who has a baby face and teeth stained red from chewing betel nut.

 

"I told my wife, `We're in real trouble. If something ends up going wrong, we're going to die."'

 

Last month, journalists followed and filmed trucks loaded with freshly peeled shrimp from the Gig shed to major Thai exporting companies and then, using US customs records and Thai industry reports, tracked it globally. They also traced similar connections from another factory raided six months earlier, and interviewed more than two dozen workers from both sites.

 

US customs records show the shrimp made its way into the supply chains of major US food stores and retailers such as Wal-Mart, Kroger, Whole Foods, Dollar General and Petco, along with restaurants such as Red Lobster and Olive Garden.

 

It also entered the supply chains of some of America's best-known seafood brands and pet foods, including Chicken of the Sea and Fancy Feast, which are sold in grocery stores from Safeway and Schnucks to Piggly Wiggly and Albertsons. AP reporters went to supermarkets in all 50 states and found shrimp products from supply chains tainted with forced labour.

European and Asian import and export records are confidential, but the Thai companies receiving shrimp tracked by the AP all say they ship to Europe and Asia as well.

 

The businesses that responded condemned the practices that led to these conditions. Many said they were launching investigations when told their supply chains were linked to people held against their will in sheds like the Gig factory, which sat behind a gate off a busy street, between railroad tracks and a river.

 

Inside the large warehouse, toilets overflowed with faeces, and the putrid smell of raw sewage wafted from an open gutter just outside the work area. Young children ran barefoot through suffocating dorm rooms. Entire families laboured side-by-side at rows of stainless steel counters piled high with tubs of shrimp.

 

Tin Nyo Win and his wife, Mi San, were cursed for not peeling fast enough and called "cows" and "buffaloes." They were allowed to go outside for food only if one of them stayed behind as insurance against running away.

 

But escaping was all they could think about.

 

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Shrimp is the most-loved seafood in the US, with Americans downing 589.7 million kilogrammes (1.3 billion pounds) every year, or nearly 2kg per person. Once a luxury reserved for special occasions, it became cheap enough for stir-fries and scampis when Asian farmers started growing it in ponds three decades ago. Thailand quickly dominated the market and now sends nearly half of its supply to the US

 

The Southeast Asian country is one of the worst human trafficking hubs on earth. It has been blacklisted for the past two years by the US State Department, which cited complicity by Thai officials. The European Union issued a warning earlier this year that tripled seafood import tariffs, and is expected to decide next month whether to impose an outright ban.

 

Consumers enjoy the convenience of dumping shrimp straight from freezer to skillet, the result of labour-intensive peeling and cleaning. Unable to keep up with demand, exporters get their supply from peeling sheds that are sometimes nothing more than crude garages adjacent to the boss's house. Supply chains are so complicated that, on any given day, buyers may not know exactly where the shrimp comes from. 

The Thai Frozen Foods Association lists about 50 registered shrimp sheds in the country. However, hundreds more operate in Samut Sakhon, the country's main shrimp processing region. Here the humid air hangs thick with the smell of dead fish.

 

Refrigerated trucks with seafood logos barrel down streets straddled by huge processing plants. Just as ubiquitous are the small pick-ups loaded with migrant workers from neighbouring Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar being taken to gut, fillet, de-vein and peel the seafood that fuels this town's economy.

 

Abuse is common in Samut Sakhon. An International Labour Organisation report estimated 10,000 migrant children aged 13 to 15 work in the city. Another UN agency study found nearly 60% of Burmese labourers toiling in its seafood processing industry were victims of forced labour.

 

Tin Nyo Win and his wife were taken to the Gig Peeling Factory in July when they made the long drive from Myanmar across the border, crammed so tightly into a truck with other workers that they could barely breathe. Like many migrants, they were lured from home by a broker with promises of good-paying jobs, and came without visas or work permits.

 

After being sold to the Gig shed, the couple learned they would have to work off what was considered their combined worth - $830. It was an insurmountable debt.

 

Because they were illegal workers, the owners constantly threatened to call police to keep them in line. Even documented migrants were vulnerable because the boss held onto identification papers so they could not leave.

 

Under the US government's definition, forced labour and debt bondage are considered slavery. 

In the Gig shed, employees' salaries were pegged to how fast their fingers could move. Tin Nyo Win and his wife peeled about 175 pounds of shrimp for just $4 a day, less than half of what they were promised. A female Thai manager, who slapped and cursed workers, often cut their wages without explanation. After they bought gloves and rubber boots, and paid monthly "cleaning fees" inside the trash-strewn shed, almost nothing was left.

 

Employees said they had to work even when they were ill. Seventeen children peeled alongside adults, sometimes crying, at stations where paint chipped off the walls and slick floors were eaten away by briny water.

 

Lunch breaks were only 15 minutes, and migrants were yelled at for talking too much. Several workers said a woman died recently because she didn't get proper medical care for her asthma. Children never went to school and began peeling shrimp just an hour later than adults.

 

"We had to get up at 3 in the morning and then start working continuously," said Eae Hpaw, 16, whose arms were a patchwork of scars from infections and allergies caused by the shrimp. "We stopped working around 7 in the evening. We would take a shower and sleep. Then we would start again."

 

After being roughed up one night by a supervisor, five months into their captivity, Tin Nyo Win and his wife decided they couldn't take the threats any more.

 

"They would say, `There's a gun in the boss's car and we're going to come and shoot you, and no one will know,"' he said.

 

The next morning, the couple saw an opportunity when the door wasn't being watched.

 

They ran.

 

Less than 24 hours later, Tin Nyo Win's wife was captured at a market by the shed manager. He watched helplessly as she was dragged away by her hair, terrified for her - and the baby they recently learned she was carrying.

 

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Tracking shipments from just the Gig Peeling Factory highlights how fast and far slave-peeled shrimp can travel.

 

The AP followed trucks from the shed over five days to major Thai exporters. One load pulled into N&N Foods, owned by one of the world's largest seafood companies, Tokyo-based Maruha Nichiro Foods. A second drove to Okeanos Food, a subsidiary of another leading global seafood supplier, Thai Union. Still more went to Kongphop Frozen Foods and The Siam Union Frozen Foods, which have customers in the US, Canada, Europe, Asia and Australia. All the exporters and parent companies that responded said they abhor human rights abuses.

 

Shrimp can mix with different batches of seafood as it is packaged, branded and shipped. At that point, there's no way to tell where any individual piece was peeled. Once it reaches American restaurants, hospitals, universities and military chow halls, all the shrimp from those four Thai processors is considered associated with slavery, according to United Nations and US standards.

 

US customs records linked the exported shrimp to more than 40 US brands, including popular names such as Sea Best, Waterfront Bistro and Aqua Star. The AP found shrimp products with the same labels in more than 150 stores across America - from Honolulu to New York City to a tiny West Virginia town of 179 people. The grocery store chains have tens of thousands of US outlets where millions of Americans shop.

 

In addition, the Thai distributors state on their websites that they export to Europe and Asia, although specific records are confidential. AP reporters in Germany, Italy, England and Ireland researched shrimp in supermarkets and found several brands sourced from Thailand. Those stores said the names of their Thai distributors are proprietary. Royal Greenland - an importer whose shrimp was seen under store brands as a product from Thailand but has not been linked to the sheds - said it now has shifted its sourcing to Ecuador.

 

By all accounts, the work at the Gig shed was off the books - and thus even businesses carefully tracking the provenance of the shrimp called the AP's findings a surprise.

 

"I want to eliminate this," said Dirk Leuenberger, CEO of Aqua Star. "I think it's disgusting that it's even remotely part of my business."

 

Many companies asked for more details. Some, including Whole Foods and H-E-B Supermarkets, said they were confident their particular shrimp was not associated with abusive factories.

 

The Thai company that supplies most of the shrimp to the US admitted that it hadn't known where all of it was coming from, and sent a note outlining corrective measures to US businesses demanding answers last week.

 

"I am deeply disappointed that despite our best efforts we have discovered this potential instance of illegal labour practice in our supply chain," Thai Union CEO Thiraphong Chansiri wrote. His statement acknowledged "that illicitly sourced product may have fraudulently entered its supply chain" and confirmed a supplier "was doing business with an unregistered pre-processor in violation of our code of conduct."

 

After AP brought its findings to dozens of global retailers, Thai Union announced it will bring all shrimp-processing in-house by the end of the year and provide jobs to workers whose factories close as a result. It's a significant step from the industry leader whose international brands include John West in Britain, Petit Navire in France and Mareblu in Italy; shrimp from abusive factories in Thailand has not been associated with them.

 

Susan Coppedge, the US State Department's new anti-trafficking ambassador, said problems persist because brokers, boat captains and seafood firms aren't held accountable and victims have no recourse.

 

"We have told Thailand to improve their anti-trafficking efforts, to increase their prosecutions, to provide services to victims," she said. She added that American consumers "can speak through their wallets and tell companies: `We don't want to buy things made with slavery."'

 

The US State Department has not slapped Thailand with sanctions applied to other countries with similarly weak human trafficking records because it is a strategically critical Southeast Asian ally. And federal authorities say they can't enforce US laws that ban importing goods produced by forced labour, citing an exception for items consumers can't get from another source. Thai shrimp slips right through that loophole.

 

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Thailand is not the only source of slave-tainted seafood in the US, where nearly 90% of shrimp is imported.

 

The State Department's annual anti-trafficking reports have tied such seafood to 55 countries on six continents, including major suppliers to the US Earlier this year, the AP uncovered a slave island in Benjina, Indonesia, where hundreds of migrant fishermen were trafficked from Thailand and sometimes locked in a cage. In November, food giant Nestle disclosed that its own Thai suppliers were abusing and enslaving workers and has vowed to force change.

 

Human trafficking in Thailand also stretches far beyond the seafood industry. Earlier this year, high-ranking officials were implicated in a smuggling syndicate involving tens of thousands of Rohingya Muslims fleeing persecution in Myanmar. A crackdown came after dozens of victims died in Thai Jungle camps because they were unable to pay ransoms.

 

The junta military government has singled out the country's fisheries sector for reforms. It says it has passed new laws to crack down on illegal activities aboard fishing boats and inside seafood-processing factories and is working to register undocumented migrant workers.

 

"There have been some flaws in the laws, and we have been closing those gaps," said M.L. Puntarik Smiti, the Thai Labour Ministry's permanent secretary. "The government has made human trafficking a national agenda. The policy is clear, and every department is working in the same direction. ... In the past, most punishments focused on the labourers, but now more focus is put on punishing the employers."

 

Police point to a new law that goes after officers involved in human trafficking, and say rooting out corruption and complicity is a priority.

 

Critics argue, however, the changes have been largely cosmetic. Former slaves repeatedly described how police took them into custody and then sold them to agents who trafficked them again into the seafood industry.

 

"There are laws and regulations, but they are being selectively enforced to benefit one side," said Patima Tungpuchayakul, manager of the Thai-based non-profit Labour Rights Promotion Network Foundation. "When you find there is a child working 16 hours a day and getting paid ($2.75) ... the government has to put a stop to this."

 

The peeling sheds that supply to major Thai seafood companies are supposed to be certified and inspected, but the stamp of approval does not always prevent abuses.

 

A factory just a few miles away from Tin Nyo Win's shed provided shrimp to companies including Thai Union; a half-dozen former workers said a Thai Union employee visited the shed every day. A runaway worker, Moe Pyae Soe, alerted a local migrant labour group about slave-like conditions there after being brutally beaten across his ear and throat with iron chains. Police raided the factory in May.

Former employees told the AP they had been locked inside and forced to work long hours with no days off and little sleep.

 

The conditions they described inside were horrific: A woman eight months pregnant miscarried on the shed floor and was forced to keep peeling for four days while haemorrhaging. An unconscious toddler was refused medical care after falling about 12 feet onto a concrete floor. Another pregnant woman escaped only to be tracked down, yanked into a car by her hair and handcuffed to a fellow worker at the factory.

 

"Sometimes when we were working, the tears would run down our cheeks because it was so tiring we couldn't bear it," said Moe Pyae Soe, 33, who was trapped inside with his wife. "We were crying, but we kept peeling shrimp. We couldn't rest. ... I think people are guilty if they eat the shrimp that we peeled like slaves."

 

Shrimp from that factory entered the supply chains of Thai Union, which, in the six months prior to the bust, shipped 15 million pounds of frozen shrimp to dozens of US companies, customs records show. Those included Red Lobster and Darden Restaurants, which owns outlets such as Olive Garden, LongHorn Steakhouse and several other popular American chains.

 

Moe Pyae Soe was a free man after the May raid. But five months later, running low on cash with a pregnant wife, he felt desperate enough to look for a job in another shrimp factory. He hoped conditions would be better this time.

 

They weren't. His wages were withheld, and he ended up in the Gig factory peeling shrimp next to Tin Nyo Win - No.31.

 

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Modern-day slavery is often just part of doing business in Thailand's seafood export capital. Some shed owners believe they are providing jobs to poor migrant workers in need. Police are paid to look the other way and say officers frequently do not understand that practices such as forced labour and debt bondage are against the law.

 

"We just need to educate everyone on this issue," said Jaruwat Vaisaya, deputy commissioner of Bangkok's Metropolitan Police. "I don't think they know what they're doing is called human trafficking, but they must know it's wrong."

 

News surfaces about an abusive shed only when workers become so hopeless they're willing to risk everything to escape. Once on the street, without documentation, they are in some ways even more vulnerable. They face possible arrest and deportation or being resold.

 

After fleeing the Gig shed, Tin Nyo Win was alone. He didn't even know where the shed manager had taken his wife. He sought help from a local labour rights group, which prompted police to take action.

At dawn on Nov 9, nearly two weeks after running away, he returned to the shed wearing dark glasses, a hat and a mask to keep the owners from recognising him. He burst through the gate with dozens of officers and military troops, and frantically searched for his wife in the dim quarters on both floors of the maze-like complex.

 

Frightened Burmese workers huddled on the dirty concrete floor, the men and women separated. Some could be heard whispering: "That's 31. He came back." One young mother breast-fed a 5-month-old baby, while 17 children were taken to a corner.

 

Tin Nyo Win's wife was nowhere.

 

With law enforcement leading the way, it didn't take long to find her, though: Mi San was at a nearby fish factory. After being caught by the shed manager, she was taken to police. But instead of treating her as a trafficking victim, she said they put her back to work. Even as police and her husband escorted her out of the second factory, the Thai owner followed them into the street, complaining that Mi San still owed $22 for the pork and chicken she ate.

 

For Thai police, it looked like a victory in front of the cameras. But the story does not end there.

 

No one at the Gig shed was arrested for human trafficking, a law that's seldom enforced. Instead, migrants with papers, including seven children, were sent back there to work. Another 10 undocumented children were taken from their parents and put into a shelter, forced to choose between staying there for years or being deported back to Myanmar alone. Nineteen other illegal workers were detained.

 

Tin Nyo Win and his wife soon found out that not even whistleblowers are protected. Just four days after being reunited, the couple was fingerprinted and locked inside a Thai jail cell without even a mattress. They were held on nearly $4,000 bail and charged with entering the country illegally and working without permits.

 

Back at the shed where their nightmare began, a worker reached by phone pleaded for help as trucks loaded with slave-peeled shrimp continued to roll out.

 

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Epilogue:

 

 

The Gig Peeling Factory is now closed, with workers moved to another shed linked to the same owners, local police said. A Gig owner reached by phone by the AP declined to comment.

 

A senior Bangkok police officer was alerted to how the case was being handled and has ordered local authorities to re-investigate it for human trafficking. Tin Nyo Win and his pregnant wife were released from jail 10 days after they were locked up and are now being housed in a government shelter for victims of human trafficking.

 

Chaiyuth Thomya, the superintendent of Samut Sakhon's main police station, called a meeting to explain human trafficking laws to nearly 60 shed owners, some of whom were confused about raids that swept up illegal migrants. Later, Chaiyuth quoted one shed owner as saying, "I'm not selling drugs, why did they take possession of my things?"

 

Meanwhile, the AP informed labour rights investigators who work closely with police about another shed where workers said they were being held against their will. It is being examined.

 

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.. thinking about this more, maybe the only way to stop Thai slavery of migrants is to just f*#king ban all Thai seafood exports .. all of it! .. just collapse the industry.

 

.. economically painful, yes .. return it to a domestic industry .. that might be the only thing that registers with them .. they now get nothing!

 

.. these soulless animals just .. do .. not .. f*#kin' .. stop!

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Shoot the 'bosses' like rabid dogs.

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Its The Economy, Stupid.

 

Major retail buyers give more of fuck about free-range chickens than people slaving away in factories throughout Asia and other poor countries.

 

"Greed, for want of a better word.... Is Good"

 

 

Tip of the goddamn ice-berg.

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.. thinking about this more, maybe the only way to stop Thai slavery of migrants is to just f*#king ban all Thai seafood exports .. all of it! .. just collapse the industry.

 

.. economically painful, yes .. return it to a domestic industry .. that might be the only thing that registers with them .. they now get nothing!

 

.. these soulless animals just .. do .. not .. f*#kin' .. stop!

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Although I read this. Is it really true, Brutox?  In this day and age. I just saw a Documentary on the Kmer Rouge. 

What the F***K is wrong with HUMANity????

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Thai Union: Australian supermarkets implicated in slave labour accusations against giant seafood company

By Heidi Pett

 

 
Major Australian supermarkets have been implicated in a child labour and human trafficking scandal in Thailand.

 

Coles, Woolworths and Aldi supermarkets have confirmed that they source seafood from the giant company Thai Union.

 

Thai Union has been accused of slave-like conditions in its prawn peeling factories, including bonded and child labour.

 

A report by the Associated Press newsagency revealed that hundreds of workers at the Gig Peeling Factory outside of Bangkok, owned by Thai Union, had been subject to human rights abuses.

The report described workers being sold to factories where they were beaten, detained and forced to work 16-hour days.

 

 

These shrimp peeling sheds, these places where these traffic labourers were found by AP have not been a secret, they have been in existence here for years.

Phil Robertson, deputy director of Human Rights Watch in Asia

The company is a major seafood supplier to international markets, including supermarkets in Australia.

 

Australian supermarket chain Coles issued a statement that said that they sourced some frozen prawns from Thai Union via an Australian agent.

The Coles statement said that the agent has confirmed that the prawns supplied to Coles were not sourced from the prawn peeling facility named in the AP report.

"Notwithstanding these assurances, Coles has initiated an investigation of our supply chain to ensure that our ethical compliance program is being properly followed," the Coles statement said.

 

German-owned supermarket chain ALDI confirmed they did not source prawns from Thai Union or Thailand.

But they said that Australian ALDI stories do sell canned tuna, canned chicken and canned salmon supplied by Thai Union.

It has promised to keep a close eye on the company's labour practices.

"If ALDI is notified of any issues within the supply chain, we will investigate and act swiftly to address any situation that does not meet our high standards and supplier terms and conditions," the ALDI statement said

 

Woolworths was unavailable to speak to ABC.

 

 

Not the first case of mistreated workers in Thai seafood industry

 

Phil Robertson, the deputy director of Human Rights Watch in Asia, said if Australian supermarkets and restaurants want to ensure that their supply chains do not involve bonded labour, then they would need to be more aggressive with Thai exporters to ensure that the products they are supplied are not produced with forced labour.

 

"These shrimp peeling sheds, these places where these traffic labourers were found by AP have not been a secret, they have been in existence here for years," Mr Robertson said.

"There have been various different instances where people have gone in and raided them."

 

Mr Robertson said between 2007 and 2008 there were raids on two factories which had similar abuse uncovered as that of the recent AP report on the Gig Peeling Factory.

 

One was the Ranya Paew shrimp processing factory in Samut Sakhon, which was raided by police and immigration officials in September 2006.

 

"There has been an ongoing systematic abuse of migrant workers who are brought from the border owing debts for the travel, basically smuggling to bring them down here and put in debt bonded labour," he said.

"Now the question is whether Thailand has the political commitment to clean it up or not."

 

Mr Robertson said the problem remains in Thailand because of a lack of commitment from many of the employers.

"They are very comfortable with this model, which allows them maximum flexibility and very low cost labour," he said.

"I think there are problems with corruption, at least the local level officials to look the other way on these kinds of abusive workplaces.

"And a lack of effective enforcement by police and the local authorities," Mr Robertson said.

 

He said that in some cases it appeared that local police were involved, either in terms of dealing with the brokers bringing in the labourers to the sweat shops, or in other instances being paid to look in the other direction.

 

Thailand's prime minister has spoken about the treatment of workers at Thai Union, but it is not clear that police will take action against the factory or its owners.

"The prime minister just came out with a statement yesterday swearing that everybody who was involved, who had broken the law, would be held accountable," Mr Robertson said.

"Hopefully that takes place, we hope that they go beyond the rhetorical commitments of the past and effectively enforce this and bring some of these those employers into the courts and if they are found guilty send them to jail for long periods of time.

"Let's see less talk and more action for a change."

 

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Thai Union: Australian supermarkets implicated in slave labour accusations against giant seafood company ...

 

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.. the way to force Thais to civilized behavior seems only to come from non-Thais .. as LRanger offers, in his ham-fisted way, it is all about the money .. Thais are not so spiritual as they purport .. money is to Thais obviously far stronger than the Buddha.

 

.. I believe consumers outside of Thailand who learn what Thailand has become, and what they continue doing, will give up their discounted priced Thai-processed products, manufactured on the backs of migrant slave laborers .. (and f*#king children?! .. are they f*#king kidding us?!) .. with such weak Thai cultural values, what this nation is becoming is just reprehensible .. I am so deeply disgusted.

 

.. ban Thai seafood exports globally, perhaps others, to stop this .. the Thai's (non)solution is just not worth it anymore .. if wholesale banning of Thai products from the civilized world's markets destroys Thai industry, then so be it .. even migrant slaves love their children no less than Thais love theirs.

 

.. this is .. so .. f*#ked!

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... What the F***K is wrong with HUMANity????

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.. I wonder myself, happy888 .. what is happening to the human species?

 

.. I spend a lot of time thinking about human behaviors, mostly Thai, and conclude that much of what they do is a logical consequence of Thai cultural values .. these I believe are driven over the generations by the Thai social environment.

 

.. seems simple enough, and consistent with evolution theory .. "We .. are evolutionary products .. of our environment .. both our physical selves .. and .. our social selves."

 

.. as you, I've ruminated over the question of humans behaving as soulless, wretched animals for some time now .. while we witness it here up-close and personal, Thais have no monopoly on this ugliness .. it seems to be springing up all over.

 

.. to explain it, I have a theory:

 

"The human species is devolving .. our social selves are devolving as a consequence of the social environment in which the world's population now lives.

 

While our bodies evolve, adapting to physical environmental changes over thousands of years, our brains, which control our behaviors, respond far quicker to social environmental changes.

 

Just like our physical traits are passed along to the next generation, so too are our social behaviors .. but, much more quickly.

 

Reverting to uncivilized animal behavior now seems an acceptable choice for meeting our social needs."

 

.. I'll leave it at that for now .. maybe start a new thread.

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