Coming soon to airplanes, the fat seat?

[QuotaMan]

Probably a good idea these days.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3043242/Dawn-superwide-plane-seat-Designer-wins-award-specialist-chair-obese-passengers-switch-booster-seat-toddlers-parents.html

 

 

A plane seat specifically targeted at making plane travel more comfortable for obese passengers and small children has won a prize for its innovation vision this week. 

The adapted chair by SII Deutschland, beat off competition from 21 finalists to win the Passenger Comfort Hardware award at The Crystal Cabin Awards in Hamburg, Germany.

Sitting at one-and-a-half times the width of a standard seat, the SANTO seat (Special Accommodation Needs for Toddlers and Overweight Passengers) aims to improve aircrew procedure and passenger safety.

 

 

 

 

The adapted seat would make use of the usually wasted space at the back of aircraft, where the fuselage narrows.

It would be a larger version of the aircraft chairs, meaning a wider passenger could comfortably and safety fit in the chair, without disrupting the neighbouring customer. 

As the SANTO seat has an extra half a seat width, a baby seat could be fitted securely into the chair, with enough space for a regular customer to sit alongside without paying for an extra seat.

 

Not only being space effective, the larger chair aims to address the on-going debate about whether to charge obese passengers for two seats.

Some American airlines have adopted this principle if customers are unable to buckle their seatbelt without the use of a seatbelt extender. 

In 2011 a male passenger claims he was forced to stand for seven hours in the aisle of a plane on his US Airways flight, from Anchorage to Philadelphia, as a 400lb man took up a lot of his seat. 

Another solution was put forward by Samoa Air in 2013 charging customers depending on their weight, in a bid to reduce fuel costs.

 

 

 

[momo5]

I like the idea of it being in the back of the plane.

[soi23]

$$,,,,,,,twice the price

[Lucifer Rising]

They should also utilise any un-used space in the cargo hold.

[Short]

Lets turn the cargo hold into sleeping berths

[Billyboy294]

 I have seen a few like this in Pattaya.

 

[bluechef]

I like the idea of it being in the back of the plane.

I like the back of the plane, in the history of aviation, there has never been a case of an aircraft reversing into a mountain,

[stef74]

what will they name it?

 

will the passenger book that seat or be forced onto it?

 

does this mean that at time of booking you must input your weight/height, or will check in now include a weigh in?

[gimmesum]

Should charge by the kilo.  Just like freight.  If they are penalizing and basing charges on weight of luggage only makes sense to do the same for passengers.  Also an incentive for weight loss.

[T-T-T]

agree should charge by weight that includes you and your luggage. you get  popped on the scales with your luggage at check in so there is no big deal. 

 

Airlines should take up the idea pay by kilo for flight tickets.

[boxershrimp]

In every thread like this, the little people eventually make their appearance, saying just this same thing. Don't you ever get tired of it?

 

The main problem isn't that people are too fat, the problem is that airlines order their seats in a size that makes sure even the average person can't sit in them without intruding on the personal space of whoever's beside them.

[okdirl]

I like the back of the plane, in the history of aviation, there has never been a case of an aircraft reversing into a mountain,

No but there have been several where they just dropped onto one.

[okdirl]

In every thread like this, the little people eventually make their appearance, saying just this same thing. Don't you ever get tired of it?

 

The main problem isn't that people are too fat, the problem is that airlines order their seats in a size that makes sure even the average person can't sit in them without intruding on the personal space of whoever's beside them.

True

It's the same for tall people. Fucking knees up around your ears.

I think the average seat was invented by a guy with no elbows because there is no room for mine in any seat when some asshole with elbows sits beside me.

Although sometimes I am that asshole 555

[gimmesum]

In every thread like this, the little people eventually make their appearance, saying just this same thing. Don't you ever get tired of it?

 

The main problem isn't that people are too fat, the problem is that airlines order their seats in a size that makes sure even the average person can't sit in them without intruding on the personal space of whoever's beside them.

 

b.s. I am 85 kilos no problem in current seats.  What do you call small 120 kilos lol.  Lose some weight fatty.

[Oukiva]

The main problem isn't that people are too fat,

the problem is that airlines order their seats in a size that makes sure even the average person

can't sit in them without intruding on the personal space of whoever's beside them.

Absolutely not true. Just travelled again this month to/back Europe and on both way passengers around me were "average shape" or a bit over it; there was absolutely no "intrusion" problem. Seats and passenger spaces are more than enough for "average people" and even those slightly over average. Of course it's a "world average", so about 80+ kg (?) not a "USA average" (100+ kg?)

 

Getting a seat between 2 really fat guys for a long fly is one of my worse nightmares... :(

 

 

BTW it's only "some" people who are too fat. They should be forced to use business class that have bigger seats.

[Bigchaser]

Absolutely not true. Just travelled again this month to/back Europe and on both way passengers around me were "average shape" or a bit over it; there was absolutely no "intrusion" problem. Seats and passenger spaces are more than enough for "average people" and even those slightly over average. Of course it's a "world average", so about 80+ kg (?) not a "USA average" (100+ kg?)

 

Getting a seat between 2 really fat guys for a long fly is one of my worse nightmares... :(

 

 

BTW it's only "some" people who are too fat. They should be forced to use business class that have bigger seats.

 

Thats what I do, seats in cattle class are too small for me.

[Judge Dredd]

I'm just glad there is not this kind of argument amongst business class passengers.

[newone]

80% of the blokes walking around patts need this

 

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[biggles]

"agree should charge by weight that includes you and your luggage. you get popped on the scales with your luggage at check in so there is no big deal. "

 

Yes, if it is really all about weight on the plane this would be a good idea. if I weigh 75kg and am allowed 25 kg of luggage then total is 100kg. Anything more in luggage and I am slugged extra. A 100kg passenger already has that weight and is charged no extra for a total of 125kg, hardly fair.....even more so if you have slightly built asian passengers.

[Justaguy1954]

I'm just glad there is not this kind of argument amongst business class passengers.

Those business class seats fit my fat ass perfectly. Never paid much attention to the rest of the plane.

[THAJEC]

I wonder what the scales will already be thick and would not be still fat. It will be obliged to allow consideration before the flight? For kids, I invented the crib / cradle that is soundproof from the rest of the aircraft, because these kids crying disturbs the other passengers.

[nurass]

Bored of people complaining about seat sizes getting smaller. Long haul flight in economy has always been uncomfortable. It's always going to be. The fatties has to be pretty fucken enormous to make it significantly worse. Fly business class or remember how mindblowingly cheap air travel now is. Ps is it just me, or are the biggest whingers about flying often those who've done the least?

[joeaf]

Should charge by the kilo.  Just like freight.  If they are penalizing and basing charges on weight of luggage only makes sense to do the same for passengers.  Also an incentive for weight loss.

In 2013, Samoa Air started charging passengers by their weight for the 3 small aircraft they fly.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/02/travel/samoa-air-fare-by-weight/

 

When I flew coach to/from USA-Thailand, the 24+ hrs travel and layover was the worst part of my vacation.  I would not visit Thailand if I had to fly coach again, and I am fortunate to be able to ride in the “front of the bus” using miles which now makes my entire Thailand vacation something I look forward to.

[Highlander]

This seat is a great idea.

 

I always try and choose seat 5c or 5 d on Airbus A320/A330 because of a number of reasons.

 

1. if I don't choose a seat prior to the flight they usually put me next to a fat guy because I am a thin guy. (funnily enough in the same seat they are looking to modify)
2. I am also far enough away from screaming babies that they do not cause too much of an issue.
3. Close to the front toilet.
4. When we land at BKK, I can be out of the plane quickly with my carry on luggage and don't get slowed down by the inconsiderate wankers who decide that after landing is the best time to reorganise their duty free and hand luggage, thus blocking the isle and stopping me from getting through immigration quicker and into my pre-booked taxi.

I have nothing against fat people normally but why should it spoil my flight because someone cannot stay away from the fridge or deep fried food.

 

My ex-wifes uncle got charged for and given 2 seats because he was morbidly obese on a flight out of Perth, Australia, simply because he took up more than 1 seat.  So why can't other airlines do this?

 

A useful website is http://www.seatguru.com/ as it tells you the dimentions of specific airline seats , so people can make an informed decision about the seat / airline to choose

 

it is a catch 22 with seat sizes, as we all want cheap air fares but the more seats on a plane helps reduce the fare.

 

I normally fly with budget airlines, they normally cram us in so being next to a person who takes up more than their allotted space makes my flight a nightmare  (budget Airline = $400+ compared flying direct with Thai = $800+)

[Lucifer Rising]

 

 

The main problem isn't that people are too fat, the problem is that airlines order their seats in a size that makes sure even the average person can't sit in them without intruding on the personal space of whoever's beside them.

5555 and what exactly is your idea of "the average person"?

 

If you can't sit in one of those seats without intruding on the person next to you, you're fat. The word is fat. Don't try and sugar coat it now, because you'll eat that too.