Hospitals in Pattaya that will see Thais for 30B

[bigbill340]

Hi all,

 

 What hospitals in Pattaya will see a Thai under the 30B rule?

 

 

 Thanks

 

 

 

 Bill

[bigbill340]

Can a Thai be seen in Pattaya under that rule if they have been seen in another province?

 

 

 

 

Bil

[AngleWong]

I don't think this is the case Bill. I took a girl to pattaya memorial and because I was there they charged farrang prices. I even heard them talking in Thai about increasing the price. Had something similar in BKK in Bumrumgrad. Maybe some non private hospitals will see a Thai for 30 baht, but again I have been in a public hospital with a Thai girl for a whole day in the waiting room, and it was more than 30 baht, or certainly the drugs administered.

[bigbill340]

I don't think this is the case Bill. I took a girl to pattaya memorial and because I was there they charged farrang prices. I even heard them talking in Thai about increasing the price. Had something similar in BKK in Bumrumgrad. Maybe some non private hospitals will see a Thai for 30 baht, but again I have been in a public hospital with a Thai girl for a whole day in the waiting room, and it was more than 30 baht, or certainly the drugs administered.

Thanks for the reply matey!

 

I was unsure if it could be found in Pattaya? But maybe she is right and it can't be!

 

Thanks again

 

 

Bill

[tilac4u]

Maybe Im totally wrong and the Streetview info is 2 yrs old but it looks like there is a 'discrete' back enterance to PIH (www.pih-inter.com/) on Beach Road soi 5.

It's next to a pub/restaurant called Pic Kitchen and it has only Thai text on the outside but you can see the number 30 displayed as well.

 

https://goo.gl/maps/Ch9H7

 

 

Cheers

 

T

[filibuster]

The 30 Baht payment was discontinued several years ago.  If you meet the qualifying criteria, treatment (with a few exceptions) is free nowadays.

[Daddee]

don't you have to be in your own province to get the free stuff tho? like, where your id says you are from?  I seem to recall reading that somewhere, but I could be wrong.

[Ohyesuare]

don't you have to be in your own province to get the free stuff tho? like, where your id says you are from?  I seem to recall reading that somewhere, but I could be wrong.

 

I am almost sure this is the case. I asked my TGF about this before when she had to pay to go to a hospital in Pattaya and she said it's only 30 baht in her home town.

[QuotaMan]

http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2012/08/20/thailand-sustaining-health-protection-for-all

 

 

• Under Thailand’s health schemes, 99.5% of the population have health protection coverage.
• Thailand achieved universal coverage with relatively low levels of spending on health but it faces significant challenges: rising costs, inequalities, and duplication of resources.
• The government budget share allocated to health is high and steadily increasing and this trend is difficult to sustain in the long term.

50-year-old Somjai Trisirithanachote, a housekeeper who works at a building in Bangkok, was ill for several months.  “A health advocate told me about the Universal Coverage Health Scheme (UCS) and I applied for it. I went to a public hospital using the UCS card and the doctor there found the cause of my illness, hypertension. My health improved significantly after visiting the hospital twice,”

Thailand’s health achievements 

Ms. Trisirithanachote is one of the many Thais who has benefited from the UCS. Initially, under the scheme, no patient paid more than Baht 30.00 (about US$1.00) per visit to accredited hospitals and health centers for inpatient or outpatient care, including drugs. In 2007, the co-payment was abolished and UCS became free. As a result, Thailand was able to make healthcare more accessible to all and reduced the burden of health costs on the poor. 99.5% of the population now have health protection coverage. In addition, Thailand also saw an improvement in two-year survival rates for cancer and heart attacks. While Thailand’s health system achievements are undeniable, it is facing three challenges.

Inequalities in the health system

The UCS may have made healthcare more accessible to a significant share of the population but, even with universal coverage, inequalities persist. The distribution of health workers and other resources vary across geographic areas. In addition, Thailand has two other health financing schemes and the benefits differ from one another. For example, spending for the elderly under the Civil Servant Medical Benefit Scheme is four times higher per patient than those eligible only for the UCS. 

Rising costs

Thailand may have achieved universal coverage with low levels of spending on health but, unlike other middle income countries, a high share of spending on health is shouldered by the government. Government health spending as a share of GDP has nearly doubled- from 1.5% in 1995 to almost 3% in 2008. Costs are being driven by rising spending in the UCS and other health schemes due to the growing number of chronic diseases, an aging population, and more.

 “The steadily increasing government budget share allocated to health will be difficult to sustain in the long term,” says Dr. Sutayut Osornprasop, a human development specialist from the World Bank office in Bangkok and one of the authors of the Thailand Public Financial Management Report Discussion papers. 

He adds: “The government and other health stakeholders recognize the growing costs and have put into place some measures to deal with these. Some examples are better payment arrangements  and an increased emphasis on disease prevention and health promotion. However, more could be done.”

 

Dr. Osornprasop says that there could be a greater focus on hospital efficiency and more measures to deal with the unequal distribution of health facilities and staff.

Central and local government roles in health

Thailand’s health spending is spread across several ministries, government agencies, public insurance schemes, and local governments. These groups then use a variety of means to channel funds to health providers and local governments to finance health services. As a result, administrative systems duplicate and inefficiencies stem from the differences in administration, payment, reporting, and monitoring.

“There is a need to establish clearer roles and responsibilities of local governments and the Ministry of Public Health. Under the forthcoming Third Action Plan for Decentralization, Thailand should be able to systematically delegate different functions (such as disease prevention, health promotion, and health-related social and community functions) to various agencies. Mechanisms for better central oversight and accountability can also be established,” says Dr. Osornprasop.

Future steps

Thailand can be proud of its achievements in the health sector but there’s a need to avoid complacency in addressing its challenges. Fortunately, Thailand has a strong capacity for health system analysis and stakeholders in government and active civil society are pushing for public dialogue on health issues. As such, it is well-placed to manage complex choices for its universal health scheme.

For more information, please refer to the World Bank’s “Government Spending and Central- Local Relations in Thailand’s Health Sector” report.

 

[petermik]

At the new City Hospital on soi Bukhaow its 50 baht to see the doctor for a registered Thai..............500 baht for farang

[filibuster]

At the new City Hospital on soi Bukhaow its 50 baht to see the doctor for a registered Thai..............500 baht for farang

 

How much for a registered farang?  

[bigbill340]

Cheers lads!

 

She said it was 30B if she visits her home doctor, but she has to Pay for a Pattaya doctor.

 

She seems happy to wait until she goes home, this was just me interested in why she cant see a doctor in Pattaya the same as she can at home!

 

 

 

Bill

[petermik]

How much for a registered farang?  

Pattaya City Hospital only registers thai,s living in Patts from moo,s 10 and 12 the rest must register at Banglamung Hospital in Naklua same as farangs OK understand now

[filibuster]

Pattaya City Hospital only registers thai,s living in Patts from moo,s 10 and 12 the rest must register at Banglamung Hospital in Naklua same as farangs OK understand now

 

No, I don't.  Why would the social security office register you at a different hospital from your next door neighbour?  I've never heard of them splitting anyone out simply because they are farang.  As long as you're registered and paying into the scheme, you're treated exactly the same (in my experience).  Apart from that, why do they charge "registered" Thais - presumably you mean registered locally, rather than registered in, for example, Udon Thani.

[FTS]

Banglamung Hospital is the only place.

 

There are also i believe 2 clinics which are associated with Banglamung Hospital which also accept it, no one else.

Banglamung Hospital is the only place.

 

There are also i believe 2 clinics which are associated with Banglamung Hospital which also accept it, no one else.

[sbf]

I'm sorry filibuster but I think Petermik is right on this.  

 

The 30 baht (maybe its 50 baht now) is the fee for Thais registered at that hospital.  Most girls working in and around Pattaya are not registered in the Pattaya area and remain on the register at their home town.  

 

Its not hard to change where you are registered, but it does involve getting yourself onto the house-book for your Pattaya address (and hence off the house-book of your home village) and getting a new ID card and photo with your Pattaya address on it..  Most Thais don't change their official address when they move around and just keep their home village address on their ID card.  

 

However that said, emergency treatment is available to all at any government hospital.  If there is an extended recovery period or ongoing follow-up needed then the patient will have to go back to their home village area and be treated there (they will transport the patient by ambulance where necessary.

[sbf]

Banglamung Hospital is the only place.

 

There are also i believe 2 clinics which are associated with Banglamung Hospital which also accept it, no one else.

 

The new Pattaya City Hospital (Soi Bukhao) is also a government hospital - kind of a sub-branch if you like - of the Banglamung Hospital.  But as Petermik said earlier - it has a limited area that it services under the scheme.

[FTS]

The new Pattaya City Hospital (Soi Bukhao) is also a government hospital - kind of a sub-branch if you like - of the Banglamung Hospital.  But as Petermik said earlier - it has a limited area that it services under the scheme.

 

Not yet, It not yet fully functional, they do not accept any schemes at the moment but cash.

 

Petermilk is not 100% correct, they do not need to be registered to receive 30 baht care. Parkan Sankom assigns hospital for them and all people in Pattaya get assigned to Banglamung.(proving they are working)

 

However he is 100% correct if they are officially unemployed, they get assigned to hospital where Tabian baan is registered.

 

The new hospital is semi private, i do not recall the exact wording(was in Parkan Sankom news letter) it will not accept 30 baht care as it was built to cater to cash and private insurance clients.

[filibuster]

I'm sorry filibuster but I think Petermik is right on this.  

 

The 30 baht (maybe its 50 baht now) is the fee for Thais registered at that hospital.

I don't doubt what he says, I just don't understand why it charges folk who are registered there, and why it (apparently) doesn't accept farangs who are registered with the Social Security Scheme. I've never heard of that before.

 

Most girls working in and around Pattaya are not registered in the Pattaya area and remain on the register at their home town.

 

Its not hard to change where you are registered, but it does involve getting yourself onto the house-book for your Pattaya address (and hence off the house-book of your home village) and getting a new ID card and photo with your Pattaya address on it.. Most Thais don't change their official address when they move around and just keep their home village address on their ID card.

Yes, I understand all that, I was more interested in farangs who pay into the Social  ... I think FTS subsequently cleared things up.

[QuotaMan]

Ok I'm confused.

 

I thought the 30 baht scheme was abolished in favor of a universal health care system that was free.

 

I think there's also different levels of health care coverage besides the UHC, like those who work for the government and the like.

 

So if it's free, why are Thai's who fall under the UHC still paying money for coverage.

 

Or am I confusing things?

[FTS]

Ok I'm confused.

 

I thought the 30 baht scheme was abolished in favor of a universal health care system that was free.

 

I think there's also different levels of health care coverage besides the UHC, like those who work for the government and the like.

 

So if it's free, why are Thai's who fall under the UHC still paying money for coverage.

 

Or am I confusing things?

 

Only public hospitals offer the 30 baht care.

 

They have to be registered at that hospital to receive the free care.

 

All others claiming to need money to pay for mama or papa are bullshitting.

 

If the hospital where they are registered unable to provide care, hospital would refer to another government hospital, where again there i no payment.

 

However there are queues for complicated matters, so to speed it up payment might be required, also if you wanted a private room, it requires extra payment.

 

However  with cancer, surgery and care is free, chemo is not. There is no care like back in the West, there are no hospice or anything like that.

 

If diagnosed with cancer, if you do not have the money, it would mean slow, painful death with minimal medication.

 

I know someone(Thai) sent home with tylenol as a pain killer for cancer.