VT6 - New Building Walking Street Side

[striderman]

 

Possibly until after high season as mentioned above....?

end of november is also the end of the rainy season

[kash buc]

I'm not an engineer, so just a guess. But it might take time for the concrete in the pilings to set and dry before they can start building again

[Kandinski]

Passed the "construction" site this morning and absolutely nothing is going on. Anyone know what happened?

 

             

          

[altec123]

Passed the "construction" site this morning and absolutely nothing is going on. Anyone know what happened?

 

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I noticed this a weeks weeks ago.  It looks as if the contractor de-mobilized off of the site, as all of the equipment and material is gone.  I saw another thread here about someone representing the owner on a large parcel of land on 2nd Road within a 2-3 minute walk of Central Festival.  Maybe the initial deal fell thru or the project was no longer viable. 

[striderman]

i'm sure they will be back sooner or later but not the same team.

the guys that did the piling were specialists ( by thai standards anyway) in that line of work

[Jnl]

i'm sure they will be back sooner or later but not the same team.

the guys that did the piling were specialists ( by thai standards anyway) in that line of work

Got a similar answer when i asked in coffeshop, in vt6 a few weeks ago.

Said company that does the next stuff, did not have time yet.

 

Enjoy while it last-

[Kandinski]

i'm sure they will be back sooner or later but not the same team.

the guys that did the piling were specialists ( by thai standards anyway) in that line of work

Yeah, unfortunately they will likely be back but for now the the short walk up to Seven on BR is as peaceful and tranquil as it always been........unless thr hangover is really bad

[Puttuyu]

One month since last update on this thread.

 

Is the site next to VT6 still deserted at the moment or are they coming back to restart the construction ?

[striderman]

One month since last update on this thread.

 

Is the site next to VT6 still deserted at the moment or are they coming back to restart the construction ?

deserted.

there are dedicated foot patrol members who stroll beach rd looking for any changes at asttd sites

[Edge]

deserted.

there are dedicated foot patrol members who stroll beach rd looking for any changes at asttd sites

 

I'm still betting that there was enough influence to get a hiatus until the end of high season.........

 

.............whenever that is.

 

Does anyone know whether the method of making the footings requires a settlement period anyway?

[Puttuyu]

deserted.

there are dedicated foot patrol members who stroll beach rd looking for any changes at asttd sites

 

 

Thanks mate.

 

I really wonder what happened for such a long pause...

[beachroadlover]

I was walking up second road  last week and noticed some thais disconnecting the power lines to the lot next door. I don't have a photo so maybe someone with a camera could take a photo and post it here.  The second road side at the corner is where you will see it. I know a lot of people are holding off from booking rooms because of the fear of building.  It looks like they don't intend to build anytime soon if they are having the power disconnected.    Beachroadlover 

[muldoon]

I took a gamble on a Walking Street side apartment for March.

 

Fingers crossed!

[Edge]

I was walking up second road  last week and noticed some thais disconnecting the power lines to the lot next door. I don't have a photo so maybe someone with a camera could take a photo and post it here.  The second road side at the corner is where you will see it. I know a lot of people are holding off from booking rooms because of the fear of building.  It looks like they don't intend to build anytime soon if they are having the power disconnected.    Beachroadlover 

 

I don't know, but I'd have thought a development like that would need its own 'fit for purpose' supply.

 

If those are just the old overhead cables which fed the site being taken down from poles then it might mean the opposite to what you think.

 

Beware the Ides of March someone said, when High Season is officially over.

I'm betting that the 'footings' ground needed time to settle anyway but that there was enough influence to hold up the noise til then.

Just guessing.

Edited February 9, 2016 by OnTheEdge

[Leon25]

I'm not an engineer, so just a guess. But it might take time for the concrete in the pilings to set and dry before they can start building again

 

Footings will set, regardless of the ratio (amount of cement in the mix) in a maximum of 28 days. That's the rule we go by in the UK anyway, (although admittedly my experience is with slabs for domestic builds rather than high rise blocks).

 

The reality is concrete sets much quicker than this, usually within 7-14 days, especially in a warmer months, but the old "heath and safety" comes into play in the UK with our building regulations.

 

Footings shouldn't 'settle' at all if done correctly. The big test of this is when weight is put on them (the building). If it settles/sinks at all, you'll see big cracks in the walls.

Edited February 9, 2016 by Leon25

[Leon25]

I took a gamble on a Walking Street side apartment for March.

 

Fingers crossed!

 

I'm looking at the other side, i think both have their bad points....the Hilton and the Central Shopping Mall's air conditioning is apparently the problems with the opposite side. Lower flats can be noisy, apparently.

[Edge]

Footings will set, regardless of the ratio (amount of cement in the mix) in a maximum of 28 days. That's the rule we go by in the UK anyway, (although admittedly my experience is with slabs for domestic builds rather than high rise blocks).

 

The reality is concrete sets much quicker than this, usually within 7-14 days, especially in a warmer months, but the old "heath and safety" comes into play in the UK with our building regulations.

 

Footings shouldn't 'settle' at all if done correctly. The big test of this is when weight is put on them (the building). If it settles/sinks at all, you'll see big cracks in the walls.

 

Yes, you're right about the concrete itself - what I wondered was whether the ground/sand needed to settle around the pipes which were filled, given that the holes for the poles were drilled as opposed to being pile driven.

 

Still only guessing.

[rossbert]

Footings will set, regardless of the ratio (amount of cement in the mix) in a maximum of 28 days. That's the rule we go by in the UK anyway, (although admittedly my experience is with slabs for domestic builds rather than high rise blocks).

 

The reality is concrete sets much quicker than this, usually within 7-14 days, especially in a warmer months, but the old "heath and safety" comes into play in the UK with our building regulations.

 

Footings shouldn't 'settle' at all if done correctly. The big test of this is when weight is put on them (the building). If it settles/sinks at all, you'll see big cracks in the walls.

Concrete will never "set" if there is not enough cement in the overall mix! The most important ratio regarding concrete design is the w/c ratio, water to cement. A normal construction grade 50 Newton per sq m mix will set within 24 hours, bridge grade concrete of 70 Newton + much less but will be cube or core tested at 7, 14 and 28 days. The final strength will be assumed at 28 but the concrete will continue to strengthen so long as there is moisture present to continue the catalystic reaction. I've tested cubes 6 months old and they can be significantly stronger than a 28 day cube.

 

 Former batching plant manager and concrete mix designer.

[Leon25]

Yes, you're right about the concrete itself - what I wondered was whether the ground/sand needed to settle around the pipes which were filled, given that the holes for the poles were drilled as opposed to being pile driven.

 

Still only guessing.

 

You might be right mate, i have limited experience with building in the UK (i'm no engineer either) and the plasticity index/amount of sand etc over there may mean they have entirely different time scales and methods when putting in footings.

[Leon25]

Concrete will never "set" if there is not enough cement in the overall mix! The most important ratio regarding concrete design is the w/c ratio, water to cement. A normal construction grade 50 Newton per sq m mix will set within 24 hours, bridge grade concrete of 70 Newton + much less but will be cube or core tested at 7, 14 and 28 days. The final strength will be assumed at 28 but the concrete will continue to strengthen so long as there is moisture present to continue the catalystic reaction. I've tested cubes 6 months old and they can be significantly stronger than a 28 day cube.

 

 Former batching plant manager and concrete mix designer.

 

Fair enough. All i'm saying is that UK building regs require us to wait 28 days for the footings to 'set' before the building can go up (in domestic builds at least).

 

I agree that the concrete will set further, but 28 days is the time limit we work with here, and the NHBC are fairly strict buggers so i imagine it's gone off pretty well after 4 weeks.

 

I'm no concrete expert like yourself though, i just work within the regs.

Edited February 9, 2016 by Leon25

[izzyg]

My two latests stays at VT6 (July 2015 and January 2016) I have booked rooms on the North side to avoid noise from the building site. Of course there has been no construction at those times........

Edited February 9, 2016 by izzyg

[galt67]

The 'north side' of VT6, facing Naklua, is 'cooler' as it does NOT get the direct sunlight (as long) as the WS side.

[rossbert]

Fair enough. All i'm saying is that UK building regs require us to wait 28 days for the footings to 'set' before the building can go up (in domestic builds at least).

 

I agree that the concrete will set further, but 28 days is the time limit we work with here, and the NHBC are fairly strict buggers so i imagine it's gone off pretty well after 4 weeks.

 

I'm no concrete expert like yourself though, i just work within the regs.

I'm no expert. 10 years out of the game now and any regs would be new to me.

 Just remembered I tested cubes/cores at 24 hours, 7 days then 28 days, no idea where I got 14 days from, old age?

[beachroadlover]

On the edge there were no power lines before. The newly installed power lines were disconnected. I live next door. That would usually mean nothing is going to happen in the near future. Why talk about concrete that was done ages ago all pilings are in and done. You guys were taking photos every week before but can't take one of the disconnected power lines now. ok , that is why I don'tpost on here too often, no power no construction in the near future but I'm sure you guys will want to talk about your vast knowledge of concrete curing Beachroadlover

[Harry Brown]

On the edge there were no power lines before. The newly installed power lines were disconnected. I live next door. That would usually mean nothing is going to happen in the near future. Why talk about concrete that was done ages ago all pilings are in and done. You guys were taking photos every week before but can't take one of the disconnected power lines now. ok , that is why I don'tpost on here too often, no power no construction in the near future but I'm sure you guys will want to talk about your vast knowledge of concrete curing Beachroadlover

 

 

 

Easy mate, easy.

 

 

They're only asking questions, they're not having a go at you in particular,

 

Keep posting.