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Did anyone watch Amir Khan v Gomez tonight on UK tv ???? sorry for the guys outside of the UK , but it was a top match up with 2 fighters with heart and guts , got me thinking i have been to Lumpini boxing stadium in bkk. on one of my first trips which i did enjoy with all the ceremonies but its boxing for me , don t like the kicking which you get in Muay Thai what you guys think ?

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Did anyone watch Amir Khan v Gomez tonight on UK tv ???? sorry for the guys outside of the UK , but it was a top match up with 2 fighters with heart and guts , got me thinking i have been to Lumpini boxing stadium in bkk. on one of my first trips which i did enjoy with all the ceremonies but its boxing for me , don t like the kicking which you get in Muay thai what you guys think ?

 

yeah i watched the fight was good fight but have to say kahn's fights are hand picked which is the same for most boxers these days he is good but we will see how good he really is when he faces a top Mexican or porto rican could be a different story then.As for boxing or Muay Thai i am a boxing man myself like mma aswell Muay Thai is ok dont mind the kicking is a tough sport..

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I prefer Muay Thai, I am far from a combat sport specialist, but it's more beautiful to watch imho, the moves are more varied....

I read somewhere that, maybe contrary to uneducated impressions, boxing is much more hard and dangerous for long term health than Muay Thai. The reason was that in Muay Thai, kicks are more often to the body, fighters tends to protect themselves more (a kick in the head ends the fight usually), and have more exit strategies...While in boxing the number of hit on the head is much higher, leading to worse effects on long term heath and high incidence of neurologic problems...

I do not know if it is true, but successfull Muay Thai fighters look less marked than their boxing counterparts imho, so I guess this can hold some truth...

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Muaythai all the way for me and MMA...Theres not many things that feel as good as kicking someone fullpower in the head, turning his lights out and getting paid for doing it!..lol

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I think your comments are interesting.....I agree with you about the raw beauty of a top exponent of Muay Thai........but..........I'm sorry to tell you that the early onset of death as it relates to Muay Thai fighters compared to boxing is astronomical in comparison

In Muay Thai the torso internal damage is horrendous as is the all to common blood clotting problems from being kicked , kneed and elbowed.

Being struck by unpadded parts of a body makes the impact and subsequent trauma to the tissues far greater.

As an ex competitive boxer and kickboxer who had the misfortune/fortune to fight a Muay Thai fella once I can attest to the damage they cause. I had to be carried up the steps for a week cause my legs wouldn't work!!!! Had to be put on medication to stop the threat of clots travelling to my brain or heart.

And I managed to hold my own against him for 5 rounds too!!!!!

If you come across a Muay Thai fighter that has superior boxing skills as well as their other arsenal of deadly techniques then in my opinion they are unbeatable.

Pound for pound they are the toughest fighters in the world!!!!!

I prefer Muay thai, I am far from a combat sport specialist, but it's more beautiful to watch imho, the moves are more varied....

I read somewhere that, maybe contrary to uneducated impressions, boxing is much more hard and dangerous for long term health than Muay thai. The reason was that in muay thai, kicks are more often to the body, fighters tends to protect themselves more (a kick in the head ends the fight usually), and have more exit strategies...While in boxing the number of hit on the head is much higher, leading to worse effects on long term heath and high incidence of neurologic problems...

I do not know if it is true, but successfull Muay thai fighters look less marked than their boxing counterparts imho, so I guess this can hold some truth...

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Don't fight don't like watching fights!!

 

So many better things to do in life............and if you have a death wish lots of better ways to go ....................lol.

 

FUCKED to death sounds good to me!!!!!!

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I think your comments are interesting.....I agree with you about the raw beauty of a top exponent of Muay Thai........but..........I'm sorry to tell you that the early onset of death as it relates to Muay Thai fighters compared to boxing is astronomical in comparison

In Muay Thai the torso internal damage is horrendous as is the all to common blood clotting problems from being kicked , kneed and elbowed.

Being struck by unpadded parts of a body makes the impact and subsequent trauma to the tissues far greater.

As an ex competitive boxer and kickboxer who had the misfortune/fortune to fight a Muay Thai fella once I can attest to the damage they cause. I had to be carried up the steps for a week cause my legs wouldn't work!!!! Had to be put on medication to stop the threat of clots travelling to my brain or heart.

And I managed to hold my own against him for 5 rounds too!!!!!

If you come across a Muay Thai fighter that has superior boxing skills as well as their other arsenal of deadly techniques then in my opinion they are unbeatable.

Pound for pound they are the toughest fighters in the world!!!!!

 

I was going to say boxing for watching Muay Thai for effectiveness.

 

I boxed in the army at 75 kilo's Middleweight, loved it, until I came up against a kid who could really box a black lad.... he put me away so hard 3 times and I had never been put on my arse before or since, third time I was like "fuck this" and looked to my corner who were gesturing "stay down"... his jab cut me to pieces and the damage to my face for the next week made me look like I had been through a windscreen.... happy days.

 

Been caught with an elbow once.... more good looks.

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A good sprawl???? What the hell is that mate..............lol.

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Do you know i only understood about one word out of three...............lol.

 

Thanks Milo i will read it again and try to understand. Complicated business though this martial arts stuff!!

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Boxing for me. I prefer to watch a 12 round Pacquiao - Morales war any time over a Muay Thai fight

Boxing for me , although they are doing a good job of f*cking it up , the top guys hardly ever meet each other anymore, too much money knocking out no hopers to risk fighting a genuine contender.

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Anyone been to Fairtex stadium to see the fights? Any good?

I've been there one time, but I don't like light-weight fights... :Party1:

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I think your comments are interesting.....I agree with you about the raw beauty of a top exponent of Muay Thai........but..........I'm sorry to tell you that the early onset of death as it relates to Muay Thai fighters compared to boxing is astronomical in comparison

In Muay Thai the torso internal damage is horrendous as is the all to common blood clotting problems from being kicked , kneed and elbowed.

Being struck by unpadded parts of a body makes the impact and subsequent trauma to the tissues far greater.

As an ex competitive boxer and kickboxer who had the misfortune/fortune to fight a Muay Thai fella once I can attest to the damage they cause. I had to be carried up the steps for a week cause my legs wouldn't work!!!! Had to be put on medication to stop the threat of clots travelling to my brain or heart.

And I managed to hold my own against him for 5 rounds too!!!!!

If you come across a Muay Thai fighter that has superior boxing skills as well as their other arsenal of deadly techniques then in my opinion they are unbeatable.

Pound for pound they are the toughest fighters in the world!!!!!

 

but u have to admit the punishment some boxers take to the head is outstanding prime e.g Ali and i think i can hear Hattons speach begining to slur,but i do have respect for anyone that gets in a cage or a ring its a tough way to earn a living.

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Been practicing MT 4 times a week for just over 2 years now, and i love it. Only regret is not starting it when i was younger. Great for conditioning but difficult for me when im sparring with a quick 20 year old.

Been to watch loads of fights at the fairtex stadium, but as of yet never been to lumpini.

Dean

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Interesting thread. MT is one of the very few martial arts that haven't degenerated into purely a sport, and is certainly worthy of respect. Personally I prefer to watch a skilled boxer at work, for unlike MT, boxing has and teaches defences to its own attacks - the defences in MT seem to me (as a WingTsun man, and therefore just an interested observer of MT) to be toughness, aggression and sheer stamina - i.e. essentially a greater ability to take or ignore punishment. Great if you're a young bloke and full of beans, but no good at all for an older or not very fit person wanting a good self-defence system for the street, for example.

I have watched many MT bouts on a local level in LOS where one contestant was a farang, and the farang usually won. This is not because of size (there are weight categories), but because the farangs concerned were in most cases originally boxers and knew how to use their fists - the hands outreach the knees and elbows, and can score consistently if wielded with skill by a hard puncher.

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It depends on the match, the guys need matching and need to feel matched.

 

The cage fighting can be explosive but if you get a greco wrestler v a striker it can be dull as a spectadle, those greco guys are like octopus.

 

For me the Ali v Frazier , Hearns v Leonard were unreal spectacke but then they were the bset of best, Hearns i like to watch but the era had Hagler , Duran great warriors.

 

They all have great skills and to appreciate some of the freestyle fighting you need to understand it a bit, like football if you dont understand the offside rule a bending run to keep onside does not mean much.

 

Any sport a good match , bothe guys teams feel they have a chance and you have a chance of a classic.

 

Interseting feedback around the damage on the Muay Thai though.

 

I read somewhere the guy with the tattos on his face in soi 8 is a former champion, I do hope not

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Interesting thread. MT is one of the very few martial arts that haven't degenerated into purely a sport, and is certainly worthy of respect. Personally I prefer to watch a skilled boxer at work, for unlike MT, boxing has and teaches defences to its own attacks - the defences in MT seem to me (as a WingTsun man, and therefore just an interested observer of MT) to be toughness, aggression and sheer stamina - i.e. essentially a greater ability to take or ignore punishment. Great if you're a young bloke and full of beans, but no good at all for an older or not very fit person wanting a good self-defence system for the street, for example.

I have watched many MT bouts on a local level in LOS where one contestant was a farang, and the farang usually won. This is not because of size (there are weight categories), but because the farangs concerned were in most cases originally boxers and knew how to use their fists - the hands outreach the knees and elbows, and can score consistently if wielded with skill by a hard puncher.

 

You forget the most important thing a practitioner of MT gains-conditioning, that is why they can take so much punishment and keep ticking..I hold a blacksash in Shaolin Fist Kung fu and am reigning british heavyweight Sanshou champion(pro ) and without theright conditioning,e.g shins the body cannot adapt and sustain punishment unless it is put through it time and time again. I agree that a skilled boxer with fists alone is in most cases too difficult for some MT fighters to deal with using only punches, reason being is the traditional MT stance is IMHO too square.I saw some farang vs thai fights and to tell the truth alot of the thai "fighters" looked like taxi drivers in MT shorts looking to make a few bucks and the farang's camp wanting an easy win-have seen this alot in Patts and Phuket. The real MT fighters, like the ones in Lumpinee would send most boxers to the hospital..

 

Where a boxer concentrates only puching, he is going to be superior at the game of ONLY punches but put them in a ring or cage with MT rules or even worse, MMA rules then they will be lost in the clinch/on the ground,etc..I went to highschool in Canada and my best friend was a lightweight amateur boxing champion, golden gloves and won a silver medal in the commonwealth games. We used to train/sparr/joke around and when he threw a combo of about 30 punches, his hands were honestly just a blurr-no way could u block them with traditional martial arts blocks but he told me he hates kicks and knees/elbows as they come at weird angles that he as a boxer is not used to..

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Where a boxer concentrates only puching, he is going to be superior at the game of ONLY punches but put them in a ring or cage with MT rules or even worse, MMA rules then they will be lost in the clinch/on the ground,etc..I went to highschool in Canada and my best friend was a lightweight amateur boxing champion, golden gloves and won a silver medal in the commonwealth games. We used to train/sparr/joke around and when he threw a combo of about 30 punches, his hands were honestly just a blurr-no way could u block them with traditional martial arts blocks but he told me he hates kicks and knees/elbows as they come at weird angles that he as a boxer is not used to..

Very true RF

Another trait with boxers is that a substantial amount of their weight is on their front foot, and if that leg is smashed a couple of times by a decent MT guy, the boxers gonna be sat in his corner and not want to come out rext round.

Dean

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IMO

They are both great but in Thailand Football is much bigger in todays society.

Football is also bigger here on PA is it not ????

 

 

Sure football is more popular with the UK and Euros , see the many threads on it though I few of the guys fight or used to fight hence the thread.

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They are both great but in Thailand Football is much bigger in todays society.

Football is also bigger here on PA is it not ????

 

Thailand football bigger than Muaythai in Thailand? No way, have never even seen a poster for a football match there..Muaythai is bar far the most popular sport there..Clubs everywhere,fights everyday and its the thai national sport..football? not even close..

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Very true RF

Another trait with boxers is that a substantial amount of their weight is on their front foot, and if that leg is smashed a couple of times by a decent MT guy, the boxers gonna be sat in his corner and not want to come out rext round.

Dean

 

Thats so true about the boxers weight on the front leg...each time they throw a punch, their weight must be on the front foot to attain any power and rightfully said a good shin to the thigh is the perfect counter.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction - "it was just the internet.." is not an excuse.

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boxing ,muay thai ,mma ,kick boxing any combat sport all have very skilled pros dont think anyone can say who would win in a ring or cage if one pro faced another of different backgrounds depends who it was i spose.

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