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xdrt33

Scalliwag's burger looks delicious - but how do you eat it?

It needs a skewer in it to prevent total collapse.

Do you dismantle it and eat the component parts with your hands, or knife & fork?

Surely the whole point of a burger is that it is a sandwich.

You grab it, stuff it in your mouth and start chewing.

How are you gonna do that with a burger that's about 6" high??

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Skalliwag

Scalliwag's burger looks delicious - but how do you eat it?

It needs a skewer in it to prevent total collapse.

Do you dismantle it and eat the component parts with your hands, or knife & fork?

Surely the whole point of a burger is that it is a sandwich.

You grab it, stuff it in your mouth and start chewing.

How are you gonna do that with a burger that's about 6" high??

If you Havnt noticed by now,I have a rather big mouth.

You just work around it no problems.

Wasn't an issue other than the fact I needed a shower after it.Had juice everywhere.

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Duvel

jesus .... that sounds terrible, we have been working hard on the croquettes and I think what we have is pretty good. The potatoes in the ricer once, egg yolk, nutmeg, dipped once in the breadcrumbs ...rested in the fridge and fried to order... I hope you like em.

The rationale behind dipping croquettes twice is mainly to prevent them from cracking.

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Duvel

I love steak pies but if I go to a steakhouse I want to eat steak.

A good restaurant should stay with its core business.

An extreme example of what not to do is the Italian restaurant Da Max on Soi Post Office (Soi 13/2) which was a decent value for money restaurant until a couple of years ago when they put a girlie bar in front of the restaurant and the restaurant itself went completely downhill.

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xdrt33

A good restaurant should stay with its core business.

 

 

True, but a steak dinner is an expensive option.

My last trip to Patts I ate steak once - at Beefeater of course.

A steak house surely needs a few cheaper options to keep the customer volume up.

Must not detract from the quality of the steaks though.

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xdrt33

If you Havnt noticed by now,I have a rather big mouth.

You just work around it no problems.

Wasn't an issue other than the fact I needed a shower after it.Had juice everywhere.

 

Hope you remembered to remove the skewer first, Scalliwag.

 

Eating such large burgers can be a messy business.

It's especially annoying when you get ketchup in your hair :)

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China Garden

A good restaurant should stay with its core business.

An extreme example of what not to do is the Italian restaurant Da Max on Soi Post Office (Soi 13/2) which was a decent value for money restaurant until a couple of years ago when they put a girlie bar in front of the restaurant and the restaurant itself went completely downhill.

Totally agree, steaks have got to be the core of our business, thats what will set us apart from the other restaurants, currently Beefeater is pretty much the only choice in the area. I know they Italian your talking about, personally I cant see how having bar girls sat 10 feet away when eating could ever work.... it seems common sense.

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China Garden

True, but a steak dinner is an expensive option.

My last trip to Patts I ate steak once - at Beefeater of course.

A steak house surely needs a few cheaper options to keep the customer volume up.

Must not detract from the quality of the steaks though.

Its really difficult to cut prices without altering the quality, chilled imported Australian beef is very expensive and there's no getting around that.... We will be looking at centre round Wagyu steaks which are damn nice but halft the price of Waygu Ribeye and other prime cuts.

 

Your right, we do need other "good beef dishes" and some other protien options especially for lunch etc... but we are expecting 70% of customers to order steaks on a typicial evening.

 

Our aim is a simple menu but done well... but large enough to get your back in if you dont want steak that night.

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Pheat

I love steak pies but if I go to a steakhouse I want to eat steak.

So what

I will eat a good steak pie anywhere

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China Garden

So what

I will eat a good steak pie anywhere

I am open to any dish that show's off the great beef we will be using, tender chunks of beef in a rich meaty gravy covered with a flaky buttery pastry.... hmm sounds wonderful...

I will definelty look back at this thread when updating the menu in October.

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losworld

Ok,so here it is.And I hope the OP finds this useful.

This guy next door to me is a breakfast lunch place.No steaks.

But this fucker is known all over town for having

A.the best eggs Benny in town and

B.the best burgers around.

So I think its important to be known for one thing.If it's the best steaks,great,if it's the best burgers than that's great too.

But be the best at something and people will come.They may not eat the burgers or the steaks but you will get their money,which is the name of the game.

This burger was quite franky....phenomenal.

I would easily pay 300-400 baht for this burger in Pattaya once a week.

Garlic Aoili for the fries was just a great touch.And the square patty was very well seasoned and had great texture.attachicon.gifimage.jpgattachicon.gifimage.jpgattachicon.gifimage.jpgattachicon.gifimage.jpgattachicon.gifimage.jpg

I'm hurting now.Nap time.

 

 

Looks like a great burger but how easy to source the quality meat, bacon and cheese you get in Canada here.  Not so easy I think.

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Skalliwag

Looks like a great burger but how easy to source the quality meat, bacon and cheese you get in Canada here.  Not so easy I think.

Yeah,that's why I think it would have to be 300-400 baht,possibly more.

But if they could pull it off,I would be there.

Havnt had a great burger in Thailand.Some good ones but no great ones.

Oh and those that know me know I could crush two of these in a sitting.lol.

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Pheat

I am open to any dish that show's off the great beef we will be using, tender chunks of beef in a rich meaty gravy covered with a flaky buttery pastry.... hmm sounds wonderful...

I will definelty look back at this thread when updating the menu in October.

Please stop you are giving me a hard on

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losworld

Yeah,that's why I think it would have to be 300-400 baht,possibly more.

But if they could pull it off,I would be there.

Havnt had a great burger in Thailand.Some good ones but no great ones.

Oh and those that know me know I could crush two of these in a sitting.lol.

 

Best burger I've had in Tland is the Carls Jr Portofino Mushroom burger here. 

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Skalliwag

Best burger I've had in Tland is the Carls Jr Portofino Mushroom burger here.

 

Probably about right.

They are good.

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Daryle

When you expecting to open?

 

 

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nixonsbest

When you expecting to open?

 

 

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Pheat

Yeah,that's why I think it would have to be 300-400 baht,possibly more.

But if they could pull it off,I would be there.

Havnt had a great burger in Thailand.Some good ones but no great ones.

Oh and those that know me know I could crush two of these in a sitting.lol.

Not a lot of punters in Patts will be willing. To pay 400 baht ++ for a burger

More expensive than a top notch burger in the uk

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Duvel

Totally agree, steaks have got to be the core of our business, thats what will set us apart from the other restaurants, currently Beefeater is pretty much the only choice in the area. I know they Italian your talking about, personally I cant see how having bar girls sat 10 feet away when eating could ever work.... it seems common sense.

In recent years I have never seen the owner/Italian cook in Da Max again.

There was always some kind of replacement Italian who was not a real cook IMO and the reception girl acting as a waitress did not even know how to put cutlery on the table.

The eating area has been shrinking over the years and the air conditioning was not working properly.

However, I strongly doubt if their girlie bar is more successful than their restaurant.

I think there is a lot of truth in the saying “do not eat where you shit” and I avoid snack bars with bargirls.

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China Garden

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Well the building work will take around another 10 days, then its one more weeks traninig with the Bangkok chef then "open", basically 3 weeks time, Touch wood!

 

We have some great 80/20 Australian Angus 180g burgers, I am sourcing the Kaiser buns now .... they pack a real beefy taste, pretty much like eating a steak. I'll sort out the cheese, bacon, pickles etc ...

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Skalliwag

Not a lot of punters in Patts will be willing. To pay 400 baht ++ for a burger

More expensive than a top notch burger in the uk

More than you think.

And I believe I said from 300-400 possibly more.

If it's a great burger,lots of people out there to pay.

I know that many of my buddies have no issue paying a little more for top quality product.

I think that's evident with how many top quality food establishments that do ok in Pattaya.

Mantra,Cafe de Amis,Manhatten,Taste Of India (I think that's the name).

But it has to be great...it can't be just a good burger.lots of them around.

 

Is that ok?

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Daryle

More than you think.

And I believe I said from 300-400 possibly more.

If it's a great burger,lots of people out there to pay.

Maybe not in your circle of friends but certainly in mine.

And the WANKER post of the day goes to YOU. So you THINK you and your friends have money and your a big SPENDER, so TELL the WORLD.

 

 

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Skalliwag

And the WANKER post of the day goes to YOU. So you THINK you and your friends have money and your a big SPENDER, so TELL the WORLD.

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No not at all.

I just don't think 300-400 baht is unreasonable in Thailand for a great burger with good ingredients.Good cheese is expensive,maybe mushrooms and good quality beef.

I don't know pheat at all,so I have no idea if his buddies and him would want to pay that.

My buddies would have no problems paying $10 for a good burger.

They have no problems paying 2000 baht for a good golf course.

They like Leo beer too and have no problems paying for that.

300-400 baht is nothing to be spouting about how much money you have.

I would say "wanker post of the day" goes to you for somehow misinterpreting what I type on the internet.

Good job buddy.Your on "fiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrreeeeeee"

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ertert

Maybe not in your circle of friends but certainly in mine.

This line makes you a wanker

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expatdude

This line makes you a wanker

 

He just stated a fact. How you guys could get your panties in a bunch over that is quite beyond me. A bit sensitive are we?

 

Well the building work will take around another 10 days, then its one more weeks traninig with the Bangkok chef then "open", basically 3 weeks time, touch wood!

 

We have some great 80/20 Australian Angus 180g burgers, I am sourcing the Kaiser buns now .... they pack a real beefy taste, pretty much like eating a steak. I'll sort out the cheese, bacon, pickles etc ...

 

I predict two months from today! (No disrespect--I just personally always expect problems in Thailand.) Let's have a pool! I claim the first week in September.

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