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HIV Risk in Patts/BKK


diceman

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Heard that the HIV occurrence amongst P4P girls in the LoS is quite high. Anybody have any firm knowledge of what percentage of BGs, etc, might be carriers? Of course, most sensible people use protection (most of the time) but wonder how much of a concern this fact is.

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Risk increases as you go down the line, lower at 'higher end' gogo's and more risk as you get down to free lancers and beach road types.

 

Just my opinion.

GFE: Gull Friend Experience

 

Official Pattaya Song

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That would be my take on things, also. Higher scale girls look after themselves better, and take fewer risks. But risk generally higher than in a place like London. 

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Had a freelancer that wouldn't kiss and would only smoke with condom..

I had gogo girl trying repeatedly to mount me,without condom. She was a little drunk

 

Luck of the draw. Keep it covered and you should be fine

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Risk increases as you go down the line, lower at 'higher end' gogo's and more risk as you get down to free lancers and beach road types.

 

Just my opinion.

 

The most laughable ,biggest pile of BS I've ever heard!!!

But maybe your being sarcastic mucker?

 

The fitter the woman the higher the risk?

 

Great analogy...

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The most laughable ,biggest pile of BS I've ever heard!!!

But maybe your being sarcastic mucker?

 

The fitter the woman the higher the risk?

 

Great analogy...

 

Other way around, No?

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Other way around, No?

 

My bad..

I meant the other way round..

Thank you diceman...

 

What I was mocking was the fact some people think the uglier the girl the higher the risk...

Whereas if she's a stunner,well she must be clean!!!

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Risk increases as you go down the line, lower at 'higher end' gogo's and more risk as you get down to free lancers and beach road types.

 

Just my opinion.

 

Not the best advice. The risk goes with the chance the girl will have sex without a condom - not where she works.

 

If she says yes to you without a condom then she has probably said yes to many handsome men before you as well.

 

Maybe agogo girls are better educated to only have sex with a condom but I doubt it.

 

And remember the younger and to some extent more attractive they are the more likely they have a thai boyfriend in the background who they probably never ever use a condom with and he may well be going round sticking his dick in other TGs without a condom while she is out earning his whiskey money.

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And remember the younger and to some extent more attractive they are the more likely they have a thai boyfriend in the background who they probably never ever use a condom with and he may well be going round sticking his dick in other TGs without a condom while she is out earning his whiskey money.

 

Or even worse, he might be working in Boystown

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Most new research say the risk of getting HIV from vaginal sex is pretty low for a man. For a woman it is higher, for anyone that takes a load in the ass, highest sexual risk. Sharing needles, highest risk.

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Ok, to the above replies, I'm not saying anything about having unprotected sex nor am I advising anyone to do so based on where you take a girl from.

 

I was simply stating my opinion on the risks of working girls in Pattaya/BKK having HIV.

 

And my opinion is that the chances of a working girl having HIV is higher for those who are free lancers or on beach road compared to girls from gogo's.

 

That's simply because gogo's seem to have a better sense of control over their girls including medical check ups and emphasizing safe sex.

 

Now I'm sure some of you have stories of gogo girls faking their tests and whatnot. But the reputable gogo's including the more popular ones featured on this website surely test their girls for HIV/STD's. Are freelancers and beach road girls self 'motivated' to do so?

 

And despite the impression some guys like to give that Thai bargirls are ignorant of safe sex and all love to bareback, the majority of gogo girls I've barfined have asked for condoms before sex. It must be standard gogo/beer bar SOP for staff/veterans to train new girls on emphasizing relatively safe sex.

 

So that's where I'm coming from, feel me dawgs?

 

Nothing about looks but simply perception based on venue.

 

Regardless though as long as you put a jimmy hat on you got nothing to worry about.

GFE: Gull Friend Experience

 

Official Pattaya Song

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the majority of gogo girls I've barfined have asked for condoms before sex.

 

My humble experience on FL and BR makes me state the same. the majority I've taken to PSGuesthouse insist on condom. They even bring the subject before getting to the room to make sure I have some condoms with me.

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My humble experience on FL and BR makes me state the same. the majority I've taken to PSGuesthouse insist on condom. They even bring the subject before getting to the room to make sure I have some condoms with me.

 

Good to hear, that's even more reassuring since I don't have experience with those girls.

GFE: Gull Friend Experience

 

Official Pattaya Song

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Risk is controlled, if you bag up.

:GoldenSmile1:

Pretty simple, really.

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I did read on this forum where someone said "HIV is manageable now", suggesting it may not be such a big deal to catch it. Do you feel like this? Remember there are people who like the idea of spreading viruses. Almost for revenge.

 

For those of you that are visiting Thailand, and are basically well adjusted individuals back home, remember you are now sharing girls with some really strange rangers from all over the world.        

 

The girls have multiple partners sometimes everyday, and don't get tested for weeks sometimes, if at all.

 

One of the best things I learned on this forum is the large number of bi sexual men fucking Lady Boys and then fucking the stunners we are all fucking. This is the crossover of HIV from the gay community to the girl you are swapping body fluids with.

 

anyway, just get drunk and don't worry about it.      

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The old saying of 'what you see may not always be what you get'. Intuitively, I might think that a lady who was working 'from the street' might be possibly more of a risk. If a lady is not working in an 'establishment', why not, would be my thinking? But I guess the test or red flag would be an 'up to you' attitude regarding the use of condoms. 

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You could go around banging countless girls and not catch anything, but you could have sex with one girl and get infected.

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Im not going to preach

 

But I knew a girl very well who worked at a 'reputable' gogo on Walking Street that required testing weekly. This gogo has been very popular for many years

 

I know for a fact she was still working there, dancing and taking customers 6 months after having been diagnosed with HIV

 

HIV is prevalent in Pattaya and even though it is stated that it is prevalent I would guess knowing thailand that it is downplayed as to how prevalent it is

 

as someone already noted there are a lot of guys (many have posted prolificaly on here in the past) who go with ladyboys and working girls unprotected

 

be careful out there, remember you have to go home to your families in most cases at some time

Better to be daring and cool, than timid and uncool! Life's journey is not about arriving at your gravesite in a well preserved condition, but rather dropping into it in a long sideways skid, totally worn out, and shouting "Holy Shit...What a ride" - Indian Larry

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Im not going to preach

 

But I knew a girl very well who worked at a 'reputable' gogo on walking street that required testing weekly. This gogo has been very popular for many years

 

I know for a fact she was still working there, dancing and taking customers 6 months after having been diagnosed with HIV

 

HIV is prevalent in Pattaya and even though it is stated that it is prevalent I would guess knowing thailand that it is downplayed as to how prevalent it is

 

as someone already noted there are a lot of guys (many have posted prolificaly on here in the past) who go with ladyboys and working girls unprotected

 

be careful out there, remember you have to go home to your families in most cases at some time[/quo

 

That's crazy shit

did you not report her or highlight this to other people??

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no i didnt

 

I posted on here about it couple of years back and named the gogo at the time

 

no point naming the girl, she definitely isnt the lone ranger

Better to be daring and cool, than timid and uncool! Life's journey is not about arriving at your gravesite in a well preserved condition, but rather dropping into it in a long sideways skid, totally worn out, and shouting "Holy Shit...What a ride" - Indian Larry

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But I knew a girl very well who worked at a 'reputable' gogo on walking street that required testing weekly. This gogo has been very popular for many years

 

I know for a fact she was still working there, dancing and taking customers 6 months after having been diagnosed with HIV

 

That's crazy shit

did you not report her or highlight this to other people??

 

I heard a BBC broadcast recently where 4 sex workers in Kenya were interviewed. When asked "would you stop having sex with customers if you contracted HIV?", all said they'd continue as sex workers. If that's how one earns one's living, they probably won't stop. Likely the customers, if they contracted HIV, won't stop either. 

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Approximately 2% of the population of Thailand has HIV, considerd this a lot higher among the sex workers so use a rubber...

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Was speaking recently to the owner of a bar in Soi 6 who said that in 8 years of working on the 6 she had direct knowledge of only 2 girls there (in soi 6) that had HIV. They both carried on working after being diagnosed. This was some years ago before the meds got better. They both died of AIDS.

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High risk groups, some numbers on this page

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Risk increases as you go down the line, lower at 'higher end' gogo's and more risk as you get down to free lancers and beach road types.

 

Just my opinion.

Probably more opinion than fact.

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