Thai language - different pronunciation of letters

[learningthaihelp]

Let's look at these two words:

 

โจร - [joon] (bandit, robber)

ดารา - [daaraa] (movie star, celebrity)

 

You know where I'm heading. Letter [roo rua] is once pronounced as a "r" (I agree with this) and once as a "n" (I don't agree with this). And I saw changing pronunciation even of other letters (consonants!). Why?

[slick67]

Some Thai consonants change their sound when they are in final position of a syllable. R is one of them, but as you have noted, there are more.

 

Check this page, especially the part with the 6 final consonant sound:

http://www.thai-language.com/ref/consonants

[plahgat]

Thai words(syllables) can only end with following consonant sounds:

the hard ones K, P & T or

the soft ones M, N & NG

 

Hence some of the consonants with a different initial sound will end with these!

 

For example:

J,CH,S,DT,D is pronounced as a T at the end of a word

B as a P

Y,L,R as a N

 

Plahgat

[Kerivara1000]

Let's look at these two words:

 

โจร - [joon] (bandit, robber)

ดารา - [daaraa] (movie star, celebrity)

 

You know where I'm heading. Letter [roo rua] is once pronounced as a "r" (I agree with this) and once as a "n" (I don't agree with this). And I saw changing pronunciation even of other letters (consonants!). Why?

Not to be a bugger, but how can you say that you 'don't agree with it'?  That is that part that confuses me in your last couple of threads.  Kudos for sticking with the learning.

[bdw]

how can you say that you 'don't agree with it'? 

 

Yeah, I think this might be why he's having so much trouble. Sometimes you just have to believe "that's the way it is", unless you want to open up a who new can of worms and delve into the Sanskrit, Pali and Khmer background of Thai.

[learningthaihelp]

Not to be a bugger, but how can you say that you 'don't agree with it'?  That is that part that confuses me in your last couple of threads.  Kudos for sticking with the learning.

 

I'm not native english speaker, maybe I didn't express myself clearly. I meant "I don't agree" --->>> "my knowledge didn't meet with this fact, why is that?".

 

Thanks to others for explaining, now I get it.

[bdw]

โจร - [joon] (bandit, robber)

 

It's actually Jone or Joan.

[Crem73]

j-or-n     

 

tbf

[geofor]

or j-oh-n

[Mr Kamagra]

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[commandod999]

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[Jazza007]

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[Sofa King High]

Wait until you start seeing ร making different sounds than r or n and appearing as silent. Then you're really in for a head fuck.