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Hi all

 

Thought this would be an interesting poll question ?

 

I've read a lot posts about guys catching various STD's but not one mentioning he caught HIV ( although if I caught HIV, the last thing I would do is post that information on a forum)

 

 

I know this is hardly a scientific poll, but Id just like to get an idea.

 

 

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Hi all

 

Thought this would be an interesting poll question ?

 

I've read a lot posts about guys catching various STD's but not one mentioning he caught HIV ( although if I caught HIV, the last thing I would do is post that information on a forum)

 

 

I know this is hardly a scientific poll, but Id just like to get an idea.

 

 

Thanks

Jusext

 

 

ive always wondered this too.

 

i remember when i signed up to PA addicts about a year ago (on another acct which I soon forgot). i remember this guy from sweden always talking about how he never wore a condom once and still goes to LOS and never uses them.

 

dont know why that guy doesnt post anymore, but i always wondered what happened to him.

 

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Know of 2 girls personally both of whom have left to go back home. Also there is a well documented case by another BM of his friend (BG) who died last year.

 

Figures are almost always exagerated but even if there is only a small number of HIV+ girls here someone will be probably be sleeping with them tonight so not wrapping up is plain stupid IMO.

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I have two good friends who contracted HIV in Thailand, one of them suspects that he caught it in Pattaya. There are some more details in this thread http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/AIDS-...15&start=15.

 

After one of my friends found out he asked me to tell his Thai girl friend. I did and she decided to have a test as well, she was HIV positive too. They don't know who caught it from who. I was living in LOS at the time and my mate used to ask me to escort her to the hospital appointments that he arranged for her. He had me ask the Dr. various questions that he feared the Dr. might not answer for a young Thai woman.

 

The three people above are for sure. A couple of other times BG friends have pointed out a girl in Pattaya and told me that they are HIV positive. It was done discreetly and not in a hateful way and I was inclined to believe them on these occasions. I have also Been to villages upcountry where people have recently died of it.

 

Some other BMs have mentioned Farangs they know who became infected in other threads but I don't think that they now post a lot. I can assure you it is happening to BGs and farang alike.

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There were statistics published by the UK government or some agency about men coming back from Thailand with HIV. From memory it's about 20% of new male heterosexual HIV infections in the UK.

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I'm pretty sure i know someone who has it, but there is nothing you can do, to stop them continuing spreading it.

 

You need proof they have it and you need proof they are bare backing still

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There were statistics published by the UK government or some agency about men coming back from Thailand with HIV. From memory it's about 20% of new male heterosexual HIV infections in the UK.

 

This might be the same statistics you are refering to http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:i37ifHZ...;cd=4&gl=uk (Near the bottom of the page) although the figures are a few years old. It might be interesting if there are more recent figures available.

 

Here is an article about heterosexual transmission in Thailand which seems to back up a theory of mine regarding a link between the viral load of the carrier and the risk of transmission. it also seems to back-up the theory that it is virtually unheard of for somebody to pass on the virus if they are on the latest anti-viral treatments which greatly reduce the viral load. Unfortunately, it only deals with male to female transmission. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/...20313080430.htm Some of the links to other AIDS articles on this page are interesting too.

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         ความจริงเป็นสิ่งที่ไม่ตายแต่คนพูดความจริงอาจจะตาย                 

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There were statistics published by the UK government or some agency about men coming back from Thailand with HIV. From memory it's about 20% of new male heterosexual HIV infections in the UK.

scary thats high

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I have two good friends who contracted HIV in Thailand, one of them suspects that he caught it in Pattaya. There are some more details in this thread http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/AIDS-...15&start=15.

 

After one of my friends found out he asked me to tell his Thai girl friend. I did and she decided to have a test as well, she was HIV positive too. They don't know who caught it from who. I was living in LOS at the time and my mate used to ask me to escort her to the hospital appointments that he arranged for her. He had me ask the Dr. various questions that he feared the Dr. might not answer for a young Thai woman.

 

The three people above are for sure. A couple of other times BG friends have pointed out a girl in Pattaya and told me that they are HIV positive. It was done discreetly and not in a hateful way and I was inclined to believe them on these occasions. I have also Been to villages upcountry where people have recently died of it.

 

Some other BMs have mentioned Farangs they know who became infected in other threads but I don't think that they now post a lot. I can assure you it is happening to BGs and farang alike.

 

 

were those guys barebacking?

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were those guys barebacking?

 

Click here http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/AIDS-...15&start=15 I think the postings on this page should answer your question 17hrs. If you are asking about the other guys known by other PMs then read through all of the posts on the "Would you or have you barebacked" thread in barstool banter.

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         ความจริงเป็นสิ่งที่ไม่ตายแต่คนพูดความจริงอาจจะตาย                 

The truth is immortal but people who speak it aren't - Thai proverb

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Click here http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/AIDS-...15&start=15 I think the postings on this page should answer your question 17hrs. If you are asking about the other guys known by other PMs then read through all of the posts on the "Would you or have you barebacked" thread in barstool banter.

 

 

that's insane.

 

thanks for the good info tho. great post.

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I know a guy who contracted it the only time he barebacked in pattaya (so he says). Aparrently he took a girl upstairs in a gogo bar's short time room, didnt have a condom, and the one the girl produced was too small and broke as soon as he put it on. Instead of putting another one on he took the risk and now is paying for it big time.

He could have picked it up anywhere i guess but thats the story he has told me. I still have barebared in Pats on my last trip with some of my regulars, but think i will re-consider that from now on.

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I know a guy who contracted it the only time he barebacked in pattaya (so he says). Aparrently he took a girl upstairs in a gogo bar's short time room, didnt have a condom, and the one the girl produced was too small and broke as soon as he put it on. Instead of putting another one on he took the risk and now is paying for it big time.

He could have picked it up anywhere i guess but thats the story he has told me. I still have barebared in Pats on my last trip with some of my regulars, but think i will re-consider that from now on.

 

I wouldn't believe that story either. He must have barebacked before, or he was doing her up the poop chute or something like that.

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I have known 4 people in Pattaya, One Thai guy who used to work at the beach in Jomtien, teo Thai girls, one dead one living in the UK so gets free meds, lives well, and one felland who caught it off a Thai girl,

 

NOw when you consider , I have lived in amny places throughout the world UK, Hong Kong, USA, Japan, korea, and only know of one otrher person - 15 years ago in the uk that cuaght it, that is pretty strong evidence, of much higher the risk is in Pattaya.

 

 

You guys who ride bareback with these girls who are working are fucking every man that they have , Its not will you catch something , its just when! If your lucky it will just be an STD.

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I have known 4 people in Pattaya, One Thai guy who used to work at the beach in Jomtien, teo Thai girls, one dead one living in the UK so gets free meds, lives well, and one felland who caught it off a Thai girl,

 

NOw when you consider , I have lived in amny places throughout the world UK, Hong Kong, USA, Japan, korea, and only know of one otrher person - 15 years ago in the uk that cuaght it, that is pretty strong evidence, of much higher the risk is in Pattaya.

 

 

You guys who ride bareback with these girls who are working are fucking every man that they have , Its not will you catch something , its just when! If your lucky it will just be an STD.

 

I think that it's great when BMs post honest responses like this. This "Heterosexual men can't catch HIV off of a woman" myth is believed by too many, I can see why, I'd like to feel the comfort and reassurance that must come from believing it myself. However what has happened to my friends makes that impossible.

 

I also think that it was a clever idea for the OP the make this thread a poll. It has allowed people who know something but don't necessarily want to write about it to have their say. I think that it's currently about 20% of the voters that know somebody who has caught HIV in Pattaya, more than I would have guessed. I think that it's the ex-pats and long term mongerers who who hear about this more than tourists which makes sense really as they are more likely to have their fingers on the pulse.

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i have to say all these numbers peopel coming up with are scary, i have barebacked in LOS, just had my HIV test come back negative. I will not be doing it again and managed to use more condoms on my 2nd trips. However the number of girls who never ask to use condom or suggest it still frightens me. the level of sexual education is really low.

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i have to say all these numbers peopel coming up with are scary, i have barebacked in LOS, just had my HIV test come back negative. I will not be doing it again and managed to use more condoms on my 2nd trips. However the number of girls who never ask to use condom or suggest it still frightens me. the level of sexual education is really low.

 

 

i remember you in 3 stages:

 

1. total newbie

2. total depressed newbie after coming back from LOS

3. the HIV scare.

 

hey man, dont be nuts- dont ever bareback. its too crazy. too too crazy.

 

i was in BKK and took a girl home- i was loaded and couldnt cum, so i was fucking for hours. needless to say, i switched condoms a few times because im always worried about shit like that (breaking after a long time). i took it off and the girl wanted to fuck without it, grabbed my cock and was about to insert. i flipped- ran to the bathroom and washed up. its not silly to do that sort of stuff- be safe. like you said, the education is very low. it boggles my mind that she wanted to, but still, clean that shit and piss right after. be safe. safe. safe. safe.

 

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I have had several girls just not mention condoms, and try to stick it in bareback, some have even said on the way back to the hotel that they dont want to use a condom. Why is this??? I would have thought a girl would always insist on he condom as it makes no difference to her. Do you think it is simply because she wants the man to cum faster? But even this doesnt make sense as with these girls i will still go at it several times in the course of the night, so it isnt like she is 'getting off work earlier'..

 

I have barebacked a few times, and caught a leaky cock. HIV test was negative, but in a way im glad i caught an std other than HIV as it has taught me a valuable lesson - ALWAYS WRAP UP!

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Everyone will BB once.

 

You can't help it.

 

Official figures are 1.2% of the Thai population have it.

 

There are 65 million people in Thailand.

 

If you're that worried, don't do it.

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This isn't even a fair poll, as it doesnn't take into account expats who've lived there for years.

 

99% of holidaymakers haven't, I'd wager.

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