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A disturbing incident occurred on Walking Street in the early hours of Sunday Morning which was initially dealt with by the Tourist Police based on the street. Three men from Estonia made a complaint at the Tourist Police Mobile Unit regarding a confrontation with three Thai Men in Soi 15. It is thought the men were being ushered into a Show Bar but decided at the last minute that they did not want to go. The Thai men became angry and a fight ensued. The men were told to make their way to Pattaya Police Station to make a report, however they decided to take matters into their own hands and went back to confront the Thai men. It is thought that more than 15 men set-upon the three Estonian Men. One managed to run away, a second was hit over the head with a steal pole and a third man was stabbed in the leg with a broken bottle. A major artery in his leg was severed and he was rushed to Hospital. Later on Sunday he died from the injury according to medical staff at the Pattaya Memorial Hospital. The incident, which is now a murder investigation, occurred only meters away from the Tourist Police Unit and is now being investigated by Pattaya Police and the Tourist Police as the hunt for the attackers continues. We understand that as of Monday Afternoon, no arrests had been made in connection with the attack.

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Vast culture differences and little worldly education=trouble

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Bad news but i seen it before with thai's not one on one but 20-30 on one!

a lesson don,t fuck about with the thai's

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You have to remember, these guys come from area's with little legal presence, they will fuck you up and not give a shit about it. Lesson to be learnt, DON'T FUCK WITH THE THAI MEN! They may be small but add the body mass of 20 and you aint got a hope in hell!

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I had a small confrontation about the price of a drink i ordered two drinks, one for me and a mate , he went straight to the toilet as we went in, whilst waiting for him to return as the pace of the club was slow I checked the bar tab, well fuck me I couldn't believe it 1000 bht for two drinks I thought for sure I'm seeing things, so I ask the waitress how much yep 1000 bht, at this my mate comes back wondering what the fuck but followed my lead, he quickly summed up what was going on, now the doorman gets involved , making sure to be calm i pointed out that i hadn't touched the drinks and they were over priced and they could sell them to some other sucker and said i leaving but waiting for things to erupt, luckily it never did but things can get out of hand quite quickly even when you are not looking for trouble.

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You will lose if you try to fight the Thai men as it is never 1 on 1, half the street will join the Thai side of the dispute even though the Thai is wrong. Walk away if you can, run away if you have to. The only time you should fight the Thai men is if you have to fight your way clear of them to get away.

 

Thai men do not really like us and could care less if some farang dies, I would not be too surprised if no arrests are ever made concerning this incident. Even if the other 2 guys positively identify one or more that attacked them, who will the Thai police believe 2 farangs or 15 Thais that will swear the guys identified where somewhere else or not involved in the attack.

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It is thought the men were being ushered into a Show Bar but decided at the last minute that they did not want to go. The Thai men became angry and a fight ensued.

 

I've seen the Thai male touts on Walking Street enticing naive tourists into 'show bars' down the side sois. They are very aggressive, and try to block the tourist from leaving if they look inside and change their mind.

 

I don't see why the agogo bars, seeking to serve foreign male customers looking to meet Thai ladies, employ these maengdas. I make it a point to avoid most bars who employee these leeches. IMHO, these bars should only hire males for security and maintenance purposes, and these necessary male employees should stay in the background until needed.

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I've seen the Thai male touts on Walking Street enticing naive tourists into 'show bars' down the side sois. They are very aggressive, and try to block the tourist from leaving if they look inside and change their mind.

 

I don't see why the agogo bars, seeking to serve foreign male customers looking to meet Thai ladies, employ these maengdas. I make it a point to avoid most bars who employee these leeches. IMHO, these bars should only hire males for security and maintenance purposes, and these necessary male employees should stay in the background until needed.

Have to say none of my regular Go-Gos bars in Sin City employee these type of touts & to be honest i wouldnt go into any place were the touts outside were over inviting.

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I have to agree about the touts. Any gogo with male touts gets an automatic minus point in my book.

 

Even if the touts in question were being pushy, you have wonder what the actual confrontation was really about. I would hope that these guys didn't get attacked just for walking away. Somehow I doubt the story is that simple.

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TAKEN FROM PATTAYA CITY NEWS WEBSITE..

 

A disturbing incident occurred on Walking Street in the early hours of Sunday Morning which was initially dealt with by the Tourist Police based on the street. Three men from Estonia made a complaint at the Tourist Police Mobile Unit regarding a confrontation with three Thai Men in Soi 15. It is thought the men were being ushered into a Show Bar but decided at the last minute that they did not want to go. The Thai men became angry and a fight ensued. The men were told to make their way to Pattaya Police Station to make a report, however they decided to take matters into their own hands and went back to confront the Thai men. It is thought that more than 15 men set-upon the three Estonian Men. One managed to run away, a second was hit over the head with a steal pole and a third man was stabbed in the leg with a broken bottle. A major artery in his leg was severed and he was rushed to Hospital. Later on Sunday he died from the injury according to medical staff at the Pattaya Memorial Hospital. The incident, which is now a murder investigation, occurred only meters away from the Tourist Police Unit and is now being investigated by Pattaya Police and the Tourist Police as the hunt for the attackers continues. We understand that as of Monday Afternoon, no arrests had been made in connection with the attack.

 

 

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I had a small confrontation about the price of a drink i ordered two drinks, one for me and a mate , he went straight to the toilet as we went in, whilst waiting for him to return as the pace of the club was slow I checked the bar tab, well fuck me I couldn't believe it 1000 bht for two drinks I thought for sure I'm seeing things, so I ask the waitress how much yep 1000 bht, at this my mate comes back wondering what the fuck but followed my lead, he quickly summed up what was going on, now the doorman gets involved , making sure to be calm i pointed out that i hadn't touched the drinks and they were over priced and they could sell them to some other sucker and said i leaving but waiting for things to erupt, luckily it never did but things can get out of hand quite quickly even when you are not looking for trouble.

 

Rooster - Do you care to name this establishment? That way the rest of us can choose to avoid this place in future.

 

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I think that the Thai guys who work in the P4P scene often develop a hatred of Foreigners after they have worked there for a while and it only takes a relatively small incident to bring this hatred to the surface.

 

I have seen arguments over bills etc end in bloody, mob handed attacks many times over the years. The thing is that once they start the mob mentality seems to take over and they will not stop even when the Farang goes down.

 

Those that visit LOS often are probably too wise to let this kind of situation to develop but first time tourists with a skin-full of beer in them are often too willing to get violent. As another BM pointed out there is a fair chance that the perpetrator will get away with it, all the staff will probably stick together and a lot of money get paid to the local police. I hope I am wrong on this one.

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Rooster - Do you care to name this establishment? That way the rest of us can choose to avoid this place in future.

 

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it's name escapes me now , it was back in 2004 a tout led us to the place, late at night , new in town my bearings were not the best but at a guess maybe off soi diamond I'll ask my mate he has a better recollection.

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You guys are scaring me now. they dont even do this in tijauana.

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You guys are scaring me now. they dont even do this in tijauana.

 

 

What? I was in a car that most definitely did not belong to me or my two other cousins while we were in TJ. Pulled over by this fat, greasy police officer. He leaned in and with bag in hand dropped it I'm my cousin Alex's lap. I'm in the back seat shitting myself. Not only was the car "borrowed" from a neighbor across the border, we just got planted, and where being asked for a bribe. He asked for a 100 US, between the three of us we scraped 92 bucks. He kept insisting on a hundred but I started whining about my mom killing us if we didn't get back on time to be in a relatives sweet 15, as we were all escorts and due in for rehearsal in the morning. He grumbled about it but let us go minus our 92 dollars.

 

There is nothing to fear in Pattaya, just use common sense man. Same as you would anywhere else in the world.

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A death. What's that, a bonus ? I think the life cycle is all backwards.

 

You should die first, get it out of the way. Then you live in an old age home. You get kicked out when you're too young, you get a gold watch, you go to work.

 

You work forty years until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement.

 

You do drugs, alcohol, you party, you get ready for high school. You go to grade school, you become a kid, you play, you have no responsibilities.

 

You become a little baby, you go back into the womb, you spend your last nine months floating... you finish off as an orgasm.

 

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As a So-Cal resident I can asure you these things happen in TJ. allthe time. Last weekend there were

17 murders in 3 days of waring drug cartels. All just across the border from San Diego. I would wallk

to LOS before I will ever return to TJ>

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As a So-Cal resident I can asure you these things happen in TJ. allthe time. Last weekend there were

17 murders in 3 days of waring drug cartels. All just across the border from San Diego. I would wallk

to LOS before I will ever return to TJ>

 

 

I was in Escondido while staying in San Diego that trip. I'm a native Spanish speaker, but even then I was scared shitless. Mexican police are more of a problem than locals, girls, or whatever you might run across.

The most unfair thing about life is the way it ends. I mean, life is tough. It takes up a lot of your time. What do you get at the end of it?

 

A death. What's that, a bonus ? I think the life cycle is all backwards.

 

You should die first, get it out of the way. Then you live in an old age home. You get kicked out when you're too young, you get a gold watch, you go to work.

 

You work forty years until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement.

 

You do drugs, alcohol, you party, you get ready for high school. You go to grade school, you become a kid, you play, you have no responsibilities.

 

You become a little baby, you go back into the womb, you spend your last nine months floating... you finish off as an orgasm.

 

It's perfect !

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Scary stuff the touts are getting more and more aggressive every time I go to Pats. hope this kind of thing does not become commonplace.

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Hello,

 

I just registered to this forum cause i found via google this thread. I think my question is best placed here even this is an old thread.

 

 

I live also a few years now already in pattaya, same as a friend of me. I know the thaiculture and i would never come to the idea to confront thai men cause i know how that they dont care any lives when they start to get angry.

 

But, now it happend, i got assaulted together with two friends in Walking Street, and everything happens so fast, we don't had any agrument with thai men this evening. But after reading this thread i think i knew whats the problem was: We didn't want to enter a club a few minutes before, and that makes some of the securites/touts angry. We really didn't regionized it first, only one of my friend said to me he had the feeling this one tout is a little bit angry cause we didnt want to enter the bar. We went our way and maybe 50m after we walked on a group of thai man attacked us, very fast, from behind, with bottles and and maybe other stuff, i have no idea, everything goes so fast. They run away same fast as they attacked, one police officer came later to the scene (their was nearly now police this day in Walking Street, never seen this before, somebody told us cause the soon elections) but he didn't did anything more, the attackers are gone, mai pen rai.

 

One of my friends lays in hospital now. The cost are over 100.000 Baht, he was here just for holiday, but his holiday finish now and i think he never come again to pattaya.

 

my question:

 

What can /should we do? I want justice, but maybe its hard to find in Thailand.

 

Do you think it would make sence to go to police station and report the assault (i didnt think this police officer this evening reported anything, it was late, he was the only one and maybe he just want to finish his service for that day...)? We knew the bar were the touts came from, normaly it must be easy to find them?

 

Or do you think it make sence to find out how is the owner of the bar and wrote him an email about his stuff?

 

Another Idea is to wrote an email to somebody who has something to say in pattaya goverment about this assaults in Walking Street and the influence of the repution of this city.

 

The same day we was in hospital their was another farang how comes in just 30 minutes later, got attacked on the beach by a group of thai men with bamboo sticks.

 

For me, i will not spent any money anymore in Walking Street and maybe i settle to another city, cause the athmosphere here is not this anymore what i understand under LOS...

 

thank for answers.

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thai's are cowards always have been always will be ask the japs

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I avoid the A Gogos with male touts at the WS soi's as I never liked the atmosphere in these places.

I'm not afraid of anyone but only a fool looks for trouble.

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these idiots are slowly killing this great city,when burma opens thailand will be finished

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For me, i will not spent any money anymore in walking street and maybe i settle to another city, cause the athmosphere here is not this anymore what i understand under LOS...

 

thank for answers.

 

I believe that the reason for why these touts got angry in the case with the Estonian guy and the case with you and your friends is because they thought that you used them to learn the location of this club. They probably assumed that you would try to return to this club to watch the show later without paying anything to them. The fact is you don't really need to pay anybody to enter this club to watch the show if you come there on your own. You only pay if a tout brought you. So you either had to say no before they brought you to the entrance or, well, otherwise you had to pay, enter and watch the show.

 

Telling the bar owner about what happened will not achieve anything. These guys do not work directly for the bar. They are self-employed. THey take advantage of ill-informed tourists who believe that you have to pay to watch a show. The bar lets them leech because they bring customers after all. Most likely that the bar owner doesn't even know these guys and has never met them in person.

 

In your shoes if you are so determined to bring them to justice I would go to the tourist police. I am sure if you take a stroll along the Walking Street with a police officer you will see some of these guys (given you remember their faces).

 

But in my opinion the chances are slim.

 

In Thailand it is better to stay away from touts, tuk tuks and tailors.

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Estonian culture is different from Thai culture, just like every other European nation. I've had only one encounter, some guy started yelling at this chick I was with. Told him to stfu like 3 times, then stood up and went between them and just BITCH SLAPPED the guy. Didn't want to punch him because poor fella would've had to go to the hospital for that. That was it.

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I believe that the reason for why these touts got angry in the case with the Estonian guy and the case with you and your friends is because they thought that you used them to learn the location of this club. They probably assumed that you would try to return to this club to watch the show later without paying anything to them. The fact is you don't really need to pay anybody to enter this club to watch the show if you come there on your own. You only pay if a tout brought you. So you either had to say no before they brought you to the entrance or, well, otherwise you had to pay, enter and watch the show.

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I don't know for sure, but I think the word 'touts' might be being used erroneously here and taking you off at a tangent.

I may be wrong, but I can't think which bars there use the entrance fee touts for ping pong shows etc, who are used by bars such as Rocket in Soi Diamond.

The touts you're talking about sell their tickets on WS before they take you to a bar I believe.

The only 'tout' types I see in Soi 15 are the guys with boards trying to get you to their bar, but I never see them push it once you go past.

I think it's more likely that these were security guys employed by the bars, particularly in the case of the Estonians.

 

It strikes me as odd that some bars need 6 or so heavies on the door, whereas others have mainly sign girls with maybe a couple of guys.

Not that it makes much difference because if you cause a problem they will come at you from any and all of the bars.

 

Do you really think they're happy with us coming here to shag their GFs, Wives and Sisters? They want your money for sure, but there's a lot of resentment going on there IMO.

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