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Canadian expat, 64, faces deportation from Phuket for visa overstay
Phuket Gazette

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Canadian expat James Nelson (left), 64, talks with Capt Angkarn Yasanop of Phuket Immigration at his apartment in Kathu. Photo: Kritsada Mueanhawong

PHUKET: -- A 64-year-old expat from Canada will be deported from Thailand after being caught in Phuket after overstaying his visa by three years.

James H Nelson was arrested in Thung Thong yesterday afternoon.

“Officers approached him and asked for his passport. He said he didn’t have it because he had sent it to the Canadian embassy in Bangkok to be renewed,” explained Capt Angkarn Yasanop of Phuket Immigration.

The officers escorted Mr Nelson to Phuket Immigration Office in Phuket Town, where they checked the Immigration national database and found that Mr Nelson last entered the country at Phuket International Airport on a tourist visa on July 22, 2010.

“He was allowed to stay in the country until November 20, 2010,” Capt Angkarn said.

“Mr Nelson accepted that he overstayed his visa. He has been charged with illegally staying in the country and will be sent to Bangkok to be deported,’ he added.

Source: http://www.phuketgaz...stay-21515.html

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-- Phuket Gazette 2013-07-02

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His income/savings is either too low to qualify for a retirement visa or he's just an idiot. There can be no other explanation.

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When I have come across many cases like this in the past the boys in brown tell me not to get involved, reasons

 

1, Everyone knows they need a visa so when you go past a year you are hiding something

 

2, No money to pay overstay fines or clear the problem before it gets to the deportation stage

 

3, You have outstanding warrants in Thailand or overseas and lying very low

 

Correct somebody has ratted him out or the Embassy need to speak with him over outstanding issues,

 

Just my opinion.

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When I have come across many cases like this in the past the boys in brown tell me not to get involved, reasons

 

1, Everyone knows they need a visa so when you go past a year you are hiding something

 

2, No money to pay overstay fines or clear the problem before it gets to the deportation stage

 

3, You have outstanding warrants in Thailand or overseas and lying very low

 

Correct somebody has ratted him out or the Embassy need to speak with him over outstanding issues,

 

Just my opinion.

Or pure laziness maybe, No excuse for it IMO unless as you say he's hiding.

 

A mate of mine ran up 28 days here recently but we got it sorted, that was through laziness though, daft.

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The one who grassed him up either had a grudge against him or stood to 'Inherit' his thailand based assets once he was gone.

 

'Not everyone who smiles at you is your friend'

 

Thailand is the Land of Smiles.

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Or pure laziness maybe, No excuse for it IMO unless as you say he's hiding.

 

A mate of mine ran up 28 days here recently but we got it sorted, that was through laziness though, daft.

 

Three years is a long time to be lazy, but perhaps once his Tourist Visa ran out and he went into overstay it got more difficult to sort.

 

Some think that once you've hit the 20k maximum fine, you haven't got any more to lose, except that if he gets deported he may not be allowed back in.

 

I tend to agree with KVT's list plus as P_B said, probably some who simply don't have the funds to qualify for an Extension of Stay.

Quite a few living quietly up in Isaan I imagine, but no doubt here in Pattaya too. 

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One more?

 

 

Third farang arrested in Phuket anti-overstay campaign
Tanyaluk Sakoot

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Jasso with Immigration officials after his arrest this morning.

PHUKET: -- As part of a concentrated two-week drive to find and arrest foreigners overstaying in Phuket, Immigration Police this morning arrested another Briton for being in Thailand long after his permit to stay expired.

Immigration officials have been combing through records and identifying foreigners whose names appear in the computer as having arrived in Thailand but who do not appear as having left before the expiration of their permit to stay. Undercover officers are then going out and finding them.

This week a Canadian was arrested on Monday and a Briton on Tuesday.

Today it was the turn of another British citizen, Andrew Ross John Jasso, 33, found to have overstayed by three months in Thailand case.

Police did not have to go far to find him; he was arrested in front of the Phuket library at 9:30 am. The library is about 200 metres from the Phuket Immigration offices.

An Immigration officer told The Phuket News, “He had been working for a boatbuilding company in Chalong, but the owner closed the business and went back to Britain. Jasso stayed, living in a hotel in Phuket Town.

“This is not the first time he has overstayed. He was arrested before at Phuket International Airport for the same thing.

“We have handed him over to Phuket Town Police Station for more questioning.”

Source: http://www.thephuket...paign-40681.php

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-- Phuket News 2013-07-05

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Three years is a long time to be lazy, but perhaps once his Tourist Visa ran out and he went into overstay it got more difficult to sort.

 

Some think that once you've hit the 20k maximum fine, you haven't got any more to lose, except that if he gets deported he may not be allowed back in.

 

I tend to agree with KVT's list plus as P_B said, probably some who simply don't have the funds to qualify for an Extension of Stay.

Quite a few living quietly up in Isaan I imagine, but no doubt here in Pattaya too. 

overstaying on its own is not a 'blacklist' offence and there should be no trouble coming back

i have a friend who overstayed by several years, and you are correct in that once it started it was harder for him  to face up to the reality.

he eventually managed to sort out a ticket and some money and handed himself in at suan plu in bangkok (the new immigration didn't want to know). he was told to report back on the morning of his flight, they took him to court and fined him and then deported him. at no time was he locked up, probably because he was in the process of sorting it out

on several occasions the immigration officals told him it was no problem to come back and he actually still comes back regularly, always with the correct visa i might add

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overstaying on its own is not a 'blacklist' offence and there should be no trouble coming back

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on several occasions the immigration officals told him it was no problem to come back and he actually still comes back regularly, always with the correct visa i might add

 

Fair enough, I did say "may".

 

I was thinking that if he was deported then Immi' presumably have the option to put that stamp in his Passport?

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Fair enough, I did say "may".

 

I was thinking that if he was deported then Immi' presumably have the option to put that stamp in his Passport?

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from what i remember (it was 4 years ago), he was told that overstay was not a criminal offence, it was a civil offence and there has to be another (criminal) reason for that stamp to be put in the passport

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If you get a 'Naughty' stamp in your Passport then get a new passport.

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If you get a 'Naughty' stamp in your Passport then get a new passport.

 

OK, but there is a functioning database and surely it would be recorded there too?

 

I seem to recall that a certain lady got a nice shiny new Passport with a brand new Visa stamped in it.

She didn't get through Immi' though......._46844738_40674658.jpg

 

 

PS - I don't really buy the suggestion that being in the country illegally is only a civil matter rather than a criminal offence - you don't usually get arrested for civil matters do you?

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PS - I don't really buy the suggestion that being in the country illegally is only a civil matter rather than a criminal offence - you don't usually get arrested for civil matters do you?

I was only passing on what my friend was told by someone at his embassy.

also when overstayers are arrested they are not held in prison, they go to the detention centre. it is a difference

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The 3 over stayers seem to be in the Phuket area where the unrest has been for months with the Thais and foreigners over working illegally, It does not seem to be a problem in the rest of the country at the moment as far as I am aware and most would probably agree you dont tend to get deported for a 3 month overstay.

 

I think this is just a making an example of foreigners in Phuket and showing the Thai Citizens that they are doing something and clamping down on the foreigner.

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