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Hi there just after some information regarding bring my daughter and her mother to Australia and what visa’s to apply for, I know I can get my GF a 3 month tourist visa but am I better off applying for an Australian passport for my daughter?

 

Thanks Matt..

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if its like uk if you was born in oz she will automatically be classed as an oz citizen by birth and only need pasport to bring her home. however from what ive read being the daughters mother doesnt give her any rights to be in oz with her daughter. All the visas will have to be applied for and subject to usual acceptance or rejection. im no expert but having a child abroad gives the mother no advantages to immigration. strange but true im certain.

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ring the oz embassy about the missus regarding a fiancee visa or ??? if you are not married and in regards to your daughter she will be auotomatically be granted a australian passport as reported above and as i recently have done,also check embassy website as you can start this by applying for daughters citizenship paperwork online

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Hi there just after some information regarding bring my daughter and her mother to Australia and what visa’s to apply for, I know I can get my GF a 3 month tourist visa but am I better off applying for an Australian passport for my daughter?

 

Thanks Matt..

Hi Matt

 

You can do it either way on a Thai passport for your child or apply for an Australian passport, obviously the Thai passport would be faster to obtain but you would need to pay the 4,600bht Embassy fee for the child also.

 

If you are not stretched for time then obtaining the childs Australian passport would be better.

 

Kind regards as always

 

Darren

 

http://www.keyvisathailand.com/australian-visas/australia-tourist-visa/

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Look at getting daughter an Australian passport.

 

I do not know the full details about what I am about to point out so you will need to check it. It is illegal for an Australian citizen to enter or leave Australia on anything but an Australian passport. Dual citizens must use their Australian passport. I had reason to check about this with Australian immigration a number of years ago and this is what they told me.

 

What are your plans for the relationship? Do you want both the mother and child to live with you in Australian or is it just a visit?

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You really should get your daughter an Australian passport, not just for travelling to Australia but most places around the world compared to a Thai passport.

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Getting both is very important depending on your time scales

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Look at getting daughter an Australian passport.

 

I do not know the full details about what I am about to point out so you will need to check it. It is illegal for an Australian citizen to enter or leave Australia on anything but an Australian passport. Dual citizens must use their Australian passport. I had reason to check about this with Australian immigration a number of years ago and this is what they told me.

 

What are your plans for the relationship? Do you want both the mother and child to live with you in Australian or is it just a visit?

Had no idea it was illegal.Have come and gone on my Cdn passport many times.I didn't even renew my Aussie one for ten years.Just got a newy.

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The daughter is not automatically an Australian Citizen. You have to apply for that. I've just done it. You have to get quite a lot of paper work together from yourself and the mother. All thai documents (birth certificate, marriage certificate) have to be translated by a recognized translation office (one very close to the Australian Embassy).

 

Once you submit the application providing all is correct you'll receive a certificate of Citizenship by Decent for your child. The certificate only took about 5 days to be ready for pick up at the Embassy. From there you can apply for a passport. I'm waiting for the passport to arrive this week.

 

The Citizenship and Australian passport cost in total around 9,000 

 

You'll also need to get a Thai passport for your daughter so she can return to Thailand. The pattaya office is very good and that took a week to arrive. The only hassle I had was that my son needed to be registered on a Tabien Baan (house book) which meant a trip to my wiife's village. Apart from that is was easy and only 1050 baht.

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Just to clarify, if his child was born in Thailand, can the child still apply for Australian citizenship, because it's his child and he is an Australian?

 

Or does the child need to be born in Australia for that to happen?

 

Cheers, just good info to know.

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Crazyman, where in Pattaya did you get your documents translated and certified or did you do it in Bangkok? 

 

What else do I need to apply for a visa for TG so far I have.

 

Relationship statement

Form 1419

Copies of my Passport and birth certificate both been certified

Phone bills

15 Photos

Western Union money transfer statements

6 months pay slips

6 months bank statements.

 

Anything I have missed?

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Crazyman, where in Pattaya did you get your documents translated and certified or did you do it in Bangkok? 

 

What else do I need to apply for a visa for TG so far I have.

 

Relationship statement

Form 1419

Copies of my Passport and birth certificate both been certified

Phone bills

15 Photos

Western Union money transfer statements

6 months pay slips

6 months bank statements.

 

Anything I have missed?

For my application I didn't submit things like Phone bills, western union statements or any financial documents. It isn't like applying for a visa for a girlfriend. The thing they ask for you to prove is that you were with the mother of your child for the period before the birth (basically 9 months before). 

I submitted the following.

 

Thai Birth Certificate

Certified Translation of Thai Birth Certificate from approved office. (located near the Embassy in BKK)

Marriage certificate

Certified translation of Marriage certificate

My Australian passport

My wife's Thai passport

My certificate of Australian Citizenship ( I wasn't born in Australia)

My Birth Certificate

Thai document showing change of name for my wife from her maiden name to my surname

Certified translation of Thai document showing change of wife's name

Form 1419 completed

Passport sized photo signed by the witness to say that the photo is of the person it's claimed to be. (I used the Thai doctor that delivered my son as he was only 18 days old when I applied for this).

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Just to clarify, if his child was born in Thailand, can the child still apply for Australian citizenship, because it's his child and he is an Australian?

 

Or does the child need to be born in Australia for that to happen?

 

Cheers, just good info to know.

Yes only one parent has to be Australian to be eligible to apply for Australian citizenship by decent. What this means is that if your child is born outside of Australia he/she can apply for Australian Citizenship by Decent.

 

This is slightly different than being an Australian Citizen that is born in Australia or has been Naturalized. The difference is that an Australian citizen by decent's child would have to be born in Australia to be an Australian citizen. So as my child wasn't born in Australian it means that if his children aren't born in Australia they will not be able to apply for Australia Citizenship.

 

It is only possible for one generation to be born outside Australia. The second generation is no longer eligible.

 

The UK does the same thing. I was born in the UK and will also get my son British Citizenship. So if his children were born in Australia for example they won't be eligible for British Citizenship only Thai and Australian

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My son's Australian passport arrived on Wednesday last week. It took 8 days from lodging the application. I was pretty impressed with that. 

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Crazyman, I have Form 118 Application for Australia citizenship by descent for my daughter and form 1419 for my Thai GF.

 

 

Matt..

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Crazyman, I have Form 118 Application for Australia citizenship by descent for my daughter and form 1419 for my Thai GF.

 

 

Matt..

Yes sorry my mistake. That's right the daughter will need the 118

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