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Are the retirement visas for Canadians obtained in Pattaya by opening a bank account with 500 baht legal?

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No, give more details. There is no actual retirement visa, its permisstion to stay for a year.

 

 

Non-Immigrant Visa  “O-A” (Long Stay) Extension   

This type of visa may be issued to applicants aged 50 years and over who wish to stay in  Thailand for a period of not exceeding 1 year without the intention of working.

Holder of this type of visa is allowed to stay in Thailand for 1 year.  Employment of any kind is strictly prohibited.

1. Eligibility

1.1 Applicant must be aged 50 years and over (on the day of submitting application).

1.2 Applicant not prohibited from entering the Kingdom as provided by the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979).

1.3 Having no criminal record in Thailand and the country of the applicant’s nationality or residence.

1.4 Having the nationality of or residence in the country where applicant’s application is submitted.

1.5 Not having prohibitive diseases ( Leprosy, Tuberculosis, drug addiction, Elephantiasis, third phase of Syphilis) as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No. 14  B.E. 2535.

2. Required Documents

- Passport with validity of not less than 18 months.

- 3 copies of completed visa application forms.

- 3 passport-sized photos (4 x 6 cm) of the applicant taken within the past six months.

- A personal data form.

-A copy of bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totalling not less than 800,000 Baht.

- In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.

- A letter of verification issued from the country of his or her nationality or residence stating that the applicant has no criminal record (verification shall be valid for not more than three months and should be notarised by notary organs or the applicant’s diplomatic or consular mission).

- A medical certificate issued from the country where the application is submitted, showing no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No.14 (B.E. 2535) (certificate shall be valid for not more than three months and should be notarised by notary organs or the applicant’s diplomatic or consular mission).

- In the case where the accompanying spouse is not eligible to apply for  the Category ‘O-A’ (Long Stay) visa, he or she will be considered for temporary stay under Category ‘O’ visa.  A marriage certificate must be provided as evidence and should be notarised by notary organs or by the applicant’s diplomatic or consular mission.

3. Channels to submit application

Applicant may submit their application at the Royal Thai embassy or Royal Thai Consulate-General in their home/residence country or at the Office of the Immigration Bureau in Thailand located on Soi Suan Plu, South Sathorn Road, Sathorn District, Bangkok 10120. Tel 0-2287-4948 (direct)  or  0-2287-3101 – 10  ext. 2236. Or applicant must submit their application at their local Immigration office.

4. Visa fee

2,000 Baht for single entry
5,000 Baht for multiple entries

5. Recommendations for foreigners with Non-Immigrant Visa “O-A” (Long Stay) while staying in the Kingdom

5.1  Upon arrival, holder of this type of visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for 1 year from the date of first entry.  During the one-year period, if he or she wishes to leave and re-enter the country, he or she is required to apply at the Immigration office for re-entry permit (single or multiple) before departure.  In the case of leaving the country without a re-entry permit, the permit to stay for 1 year shall be considered void.

5.2  At the end of the 90-day stay , the foreigner must report to the immigration officer in his or her residence area and report again every 90 days during his or her stay in Thailand.  The foreigner may report to the police station if there is no immigration office in his or her residence area.

5.3  Foreigner may report to the competent authority by post and should provide the following:

- A report form (Tor Mor 47).

- A copy of passport pages showing the foreigner’s photo, personal details, and the latest arrival visa stamp.

- A copy of the previous receipt of acknowledgement.

- A self-addressed envelope with postage affixed.

Such documents must be sent to the Office of the Immigration Bureau, Soi Suan Plu, South Sathorn Road, Sathorn District, Bangkok 10120, and must be submitted 7 days before the end of every 90-day period.  A receipt of acknowledgement will be given and should be used for future correspondence.

5.4  Foreigner who wishes to extend his or her stay shall submit a request for extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau with documented evidence of money transfer or a deposit account in Thailand or an income certificate showing an amount of not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate plus a deposit account showing a total amount of not less than 800,000 Baht.  A one-year extension of stay shall be granted at the discretion of the immigration officer to the foreigner as long as he or she meets the above requirements.

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Are the retirement visas for Canadians obtained in Pattaya by opening a bank account with 500 baht legal?

Well you can open a bank account with 500Bt but you need a bit more in the account to satisfy the income requirements for the visa. There are agents who will seed your account if you lack the funds. Afaik the only way a visa wouldn't be legal is if it was obtained by, or made by, a dodgy agent. I've heard stories of guys making fake stamps. That's certainly not legal.

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Are the retirement visas for Canadians obtained in Pattaya by opening a bank account with 500 baht legal?

The question needs to be more specific mate

 

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Are the retirement visas for Canadians obtained in Pattaya by opening a bank account with 500 baht legal?

 

A strange question.

 

For an old fart (over 50)

 

800,000 baht in your account for a 3 month period, or 60,000 per month provable income (I think) - or do a self dec in the embassy to that effect.

 

Another option - slip 15,000 baht to an agent, no documents required.

 

Gets you a year.

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A strange question.

 

For an old fart (over 50)

 

800,000 baht in your account for a 3 month period, or 60,000 per month provable income (I think) - or do a self dec in the embassy to that effect.

 

Another option - slip 15,000 baht to an agent, no documents required.

 

Gets you a year.

:GoldenSmile1: :GoldenSmile1:

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attn newbies: this is thailand!! with the right connections & money anything is possible. the answer to your question is YES.

 

immigration officers can grant or not grant any kind of Visa or permission to stay if you have the right inside track. PM me if you need a solution..

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Afaik the only way a visa wouldn't be legal is if it was obtained by, or made by, a dodgy agent.

Not only that. By example a Thai visa obtained while you are in Thailand is illegal too. You are not authorized to send your passport abroad to get a new Thai visa in a consulate abroad. Some people do it though... :(

 

BTW is think the OP question is wrong. He need a extension of stay, not a visa.

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A strange question.

 

For an old fart (over 50)

 

800,000 baht in your account for a 3 month period, or 60,000 per month provable income (I think) - or do a self dec in the embassy to that effect.

 

Another option - slip 15,000 baht to an agent, no documents required.

 

Gets you a year.

:GrinNod1: ..not what you know but who you know,helps if it's a dodgy immigration official ....like my mate does........roll on november  :GoldenSmile1:

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only one route to go down

speak to Darren at key visa

 

you cant go wrong

with him

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only one route to go down

speak to Darren at key visa

 

you cant go wrong

with him

+1    Darren has helped me on a couple of minor matters recently and I've found him very clued up about immigration matters, very friendly and very helpful. I've recommended his service to a couple of people now and they were also very happy with Darren's service.

 

Furthermore, he's one of us, a PA member.

Women are made to be loved, not understood.

 

 

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Thanks for the support guys,

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There are certainly cheaper ways of doing it yourself, or using Thai agents in other areas of Thailand - for your own visa. If you know the system it can be done, the thing is some people do not know the system and would like someone to take control and do it for them for a fee. This is where an agent has value.

 

 

 

For visa's needed for your Thai lady to visit you, doing it independently:

 

This requires both you and your lady to be switched onto the process.

 

One of my friends fell down on this, the first time he used an agent, the second time he went for another 6 month visa for his lady to the UK, he did it himself, it was refused (the lady was asked in for an interview, and said the wrong thing - nobody had told her what to avoid saying, and what she should be saying). They appealed, but were rejected.

A very big deal for them, and 6 months apart. In hindsight, they would have used an agent.

 

As to Key Visa (Darren) I have personally used him once for another years stay (under 50 years old), I also have many friends who have used him.

The biggest benefit being, he sticks to his quoted price.

Another agent ,friends of mine have used, quoted a price and then upped it at the last minute, claiming some BS reason.

I have never heard of Darren doing this. So what you see is what you get.

 

I have also asked Darren's advice, once face to face, and once as a PM here - no charge and he helped me out.

 

Go for the cheap option by all means, and many are happy with that. If you want someone who has contacts and can get it for you, for a fee, and you are happy with that fee, I would still recommend Darren at Key Visa.

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+1 For Darren and Key Visa.

 

I was told by Bangkok Immigration that I could not "change" my spouse visa to a retirement visa. They told me that I had to leave the country and return on a Non-O 90 day in order to "cancel" the spouse visa, and then re-apply for a retirement visa. Darren told me that this was not true - and he was able to get the change done. He quoted a very reasonable price, and he delivered.

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Are the retirement visas for Canadians obtained in Pattaya by opening a bank account with 500 baht legal?

Additional info:  Enter the Kingdom on free 30 day stay. Open a bank account (500 baht). Contact an agent to get an O and O-A visa. Can it be done?  Will it satisfy Immigration inspection? What will it cost?

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Additional info:  Enter the Kingdom on free 30 day stay. Open a bank account (500 baht). Contact an agent to get an O and O-A visa. Can it be done?  Will it satisfy Immigration inspection? What will it cost?

Can't understand why you seem fixed on this 500Bt bank account. Yes, you can open an account with (probably minimum) 500Bt, but such a small balance is not going to satisfy any financial requirements nor will it impress any Thai officials. In fact is you present a bank statement of 500Bt you'll set off alarm bells.

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Why don't you just fork over for a Thai Language School and get a 1 yr Ed Visa. Used to be you only had to attend 4 hrs/week & pass some easy tests showing progress. A 'win-win' - no big deposit & your Thai will improve.

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Can't understand why you seem fixed on this 500Bt bank account. Yes, you can open an account with (probably minimum) 500Bt, but such a small balance is not going to satisfy any financial requirements nor will it impress any Thai officials. In fact is you present a bank statement of 500Bt you'll set off alarm bells.

 

He may be thinking of the need for a Thai bank account for the dodgy agent to seed for him.

 

I don't know what the minimum amount is to open an account, but 500 Baht sounds low.

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He may be thinking of the need for a Thai bank account for the dodgy agent to seed for him.

 

I don't know what the minimum amount is to open an account, but 500 Baht sounds low.

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Could well be more than 500Bt, I have an account with SCB that I'm not using but wish to keep active and they told me I need to leave 2000Bt in it. Any less than that then after a year they could shut down the acc.

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I thought seeding 800,000 was ok..........................not strictly illegal anyway.

I think half the battle with seeding is it's done by agents and they have established contacts and get things done fast and easy. But if you did seeding yourself - borrow 800K and whack it in your account - you'll be knocked back because it has to be in the account for 3 months. Obviously due to their good contacts agents get past this.

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I think half the battle with seeding is it's done by agents and they have established contacts and get things done fast and easy. But if you did seeding yourself - borrow 800K and whack it in your account - you'll be knocked back because it has to be in the account for 3 months. Obviously due to their good contacts agents get past this.

 

Yes, that is my understanding in how the process works too.

 

So the op could open the bank account for B500 (i have opened a k bank account this year for B200 but they will try to upsell you first) and employ a visa agent to process his retirement visa. I guess the sum for the visa agent is around B15,000 to B20,000.

 

The visa agent seeds your bank account and uses their contacts to arrange visa.

 

So i guess the answer is yes to the op, you can.

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There are certainly cheaper ways of doing it yourself, or using Thai agents in other areas of Thailand - for your own visa. If you know the system it can be done, the thing is some people do not know the system and would like someone to take control and do it for them for a fee. This is where an agent has value.

 

 

 

For visa's needed for your Thai lady to visit you, doing it independently:

 

This requires both you and your lady to be switched onto the process.

 

One of my friends fell down on this, the first time he used an agent, the second time he went for another 6 month visa for his lady to the UK, he did it himself, it was refused (the lady was asked in for an interview, and said the wrong thing - nobody had told her what to avoid saying, and what she should be saying). They appealed, but were rejected.

A very big deal for them, and 6 months apart. In hindsight, they would have used an agent.

 

As to Key Visa (Darren) I have personally used him once for another years stay (under 50 years old), I also have many friends who have used him.

The biggest benefit being, he sticks to his quoted price.

Another agent ,friends of mine have used, quoted a price and then upped it at the last minute, claiming some BS reason.

I have never heard of Darren doing this. So what you see is what you get.

 

I have also asked Darren's advice, once face to face, and once as a PM here - no charge and he helped me out.

 

Go for the cheap option by all means, and many are happy with that. If you want someone who has contacts and can get it for you, for a fee, and you are happy with that fee, I would still recommend Darren at Key Visa.

Thanks Gor, and will continue to do the same. PA are always welcome and anyone needing advice for this there is no charge,

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So the op could // employ a visa agent to process his retirement visa. I guess the sum for the visa agent is around B15,000 to B20,000. 

The visa agent seeds your bank account and uses their contacts to arrange visa.

So in brief, you encourage corruption in Thailand and you recommend people to get a invalid/illegal visa

because the person would get it without respecting required conditions to have it.

 

I imagine it could put him in some big troubles in case of a meticulous control...  (unlikely but...)

 

 

Once again Retirement Visa is very easy to get : Get it the legal way :)

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So in brief, you encourage corruption in Thailand and you recommend people to get a invalid/illegal visa

because the person would get it without respecting required conditions to have it.

 

I imagine it could put him in some big troubles in case of a meticulous control...  (unlikely but...)

 

 

Once again Retirement Visa is very easy to get : Get it the legal way :)

 

Its perfectly feasible to get the visa.

 

I don't think i would encourage anyone to break the law here. However, whilst living in los i have learnt to adjust my western morals and ethics to the thai way of getting things done.

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