Avenging German Stabs Attacking Dog To Death

[Pattaya Daily News]

 

 

A 65-year-old German man repeatedly stabbed a Golden Retriever and killed the animal, after the Retriever again attacked his pet Rottweiler as they were walking in the village neighborhood. The Retriever owners rushed to help their dog, but were almost stabbed too.

SATTAHIP – November 12, 2012 [PDN]; at 2 p.m., a report of a dog being stabbed to death by a foreigner was received by Pol. Lt. Narate Boonthee, investigation officer, Sattahip police station. Notifying the police was Mrs. La-or Janpen, age 50, Sattahip village chief Moo 9.

The incident occurred at the joss house in Nawee House 19 village Moo 9 Tambon Sattahip, Amphur Sattahip, Chonburi province.

At the scene, police found the dog’s body lying in a pool of blood behind the joss house. The dead dog was a brown Golden Retriever named Choky, a 2-year-old male. It had been stabbed 17 times with wounds all over its body. There were bloodstains on the joss house and the nearby wall.

The dog was owned by a couple, identified as Petty Officer First Class Kamphol Nualsil, age 43, with the center for training new sailors at the Naval Education Department; and his wife, Mrs. Vilawan Nualsil, age 42. The couple was sitting and crying while touching the dog’s head in great sorrow.

The trouble maker was identified as Mr. Alfred Gatt, age 65, nationality German, address 222/22 in the same village as the Nualsils. After Mr. Gatt made trouble and killed the dog, he drove his car out of his house, and left only his slippers that came off his feet at the incident for evidence.

During questioning by police, Mrs. Vilawan said that she and her husband have fed Choky since it was only 1 month old. Choky was a funny and clever dog, and not a fierce dog, until last month, when the German old man took his male Rottweiler dog walking in front of their house. At that time Choky was running around in front of the house, so both dogs began fighting and biting each other. Ever since that incident, whenever the German man took his Rottweiler to walk in the village, he carried a short knife with him every time.

At the time of their dog’s stabbing, Mrs. Vilawan and her husband were watching television in the house. Then they heard the sound of Choky crying with a loud noise, coming from the joss house in front of their house. So they rushed out to check, and saw that the German man was using his short knife to stab Choky cruelly. She and her husband and a neighbor tried to assist their dog, but the German man tried to stab everyone that came close to him. He looked like a madman, so no one dared to help, and only just stood to see Choky die in front of them.

Pol. Lt. Narate Boonthee said he invited the victims and witnesses to give further testimony at the Sattahip police station, and made daily notes for evidence. The trouble maker has asked to be investigated later, he said.

Initially, the police are accusing the dog killer of causing other people to lose their property. As for the cause of this incident, police assumed that the motive came from his personal revenge — because his dog was bitten, he stabbed the victim’s dog until it died.

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[fatjack1]

Gee, poor old Choky. Never hurt anyone (that the owners who didn't control it knew of). I t amazes me the number of people everywhere in the world who are completely clueless as to normal canine behavior and how aggressive they can be to people or animals it does not consider part of it's own pack.

 

My bet is the dog was territorial and would confront anyone who tried to walk by. He picked the wrong guy to fuck with and no more Choky. I say good on the German.

 

Of course the above is speculation. Maybe Choky was sweet and innocent. Naaahhhhh. Why would a dog owner go out of his way to kill another dog? No reason I can think of other than my first hypothesis.

[davethailand]

Evil old fucker.

Edited November 13, 2012 by davethailand

[fatjack1]

Very odd. This picture is also connected to the Dane's car stolen and police slow to respond article.

[jinx]

Evil old fucker.

 

+1

 

 

[HappyGuy99]

Some of these dogs are nasty and uncontrolable.

German did the right thing.

Thai family are only after the money,

they will get another uncontrolable puppy.

[Pheat]

It was only a frigging dog not a ladyboy

[john2028]

Carrying a knife is NEVER acceptable in my opinion. Unless it is a tool-of trade, and one is working.

 

He is elderly. Carrying a walking stick would have been a wiser idea.

[fatjack1]

Carrying a knife is NEVER acceptable in my opinion. Unless it is a tool-of trade, and one is working.

 

He is elderly. Carrying a walking stick would have been a wiser idea.

 

If you now there is a dangerous dog in the area I disagree. I'd carry a .45 in the states in that situation and not look back at the fucking things carcass. A walking stick might have not been adequate. He is an old man and is not obligated to "fight fair". He isn't supposed to have to worry about fighting for his life taking a walk.

 

Some of you have obviously never met a large aggressive dog. Not all dogs are bundles of joy. I know I am assuming much but I've seen this before. People get a large dog and do nothing to socialize it. It becomes territorial. It is not chained or fenced in. They are warned and do nothing. It attacks other pets and threatens or bites people. Instant karma baby. Dead dog.

 

BTW, wanna bet the dog didn't have up to date rabies vaccinations? Old man should sue THEM if not.

[jojomecanic]

That's what happens when people don't give a shit about their dog's education.

What was this dog doing in the street?

 

Owners let their dog bark all day with no reason, bark all night and neighbours can't sleep, attack people walking in the street, and then complain when someone get's upset about it and kill the dog.

 

Fuck the owners... I'm upset with all these dog's owners that don't give a shit about others.

[john2028]

If you now there is a dangerous dog in the area I disagree. I'd carry a .45 in the states in that situation and not look back at the fucking things carcass. A walking stick might have not been adequate. He is an old man and is not obligated to "fight fair". He isn't supposed to have to worry about fighting for his life taking a walk.

 

Some of you have obviously never met a large aggressive dog. Not all dogs are bundles of joy. I know I am assuming much but I've seen this before. People get a large dog and do nothing to socialize it. It becomes territorial. It is not chained or fenced in. They are warned and do nothing. It attacks other pets and threatens or bites people. Instant karma baby. Dead dog.

 

BTW, wanna bet the dog didn't have up to date rabies vaccinations? Old man should sue THEM if not.

 

Hi Fatjack 1

 

We all have our own opinion regarding Gun Laws. In the UK, even our police do not carry guns, thank goodness. There is an armed response squad, ready to be called upon which is brought into action on rare occasions.

 

You do appreciate that this happened in Thailand and not the USA, I presume. An old man with an unlicensed girl on the loose in Pattaya, would really have brought some BIB response. Why you brought up the US element is puzzling.

 

The old man seems to already be in deep trouble. I hate to think just how deep, if a gun had been involved. He might also have considered changing his dog walking route.

 

It will be interesting to see how the case developes

 

Cheers

 

John

 

 

PS I have bred German Shepherd dogs, as a hobby, for years. I have never encountered a single problem. Several BM's on PA have pursued large dog breeding as a hobby also. I myself have judged dog shows, and probably know quite a lot about dog training.

Edited November 13, 2012 by john2028

[jinx]

 

 

Hi Fatjack 1

 

We all have our own opinion regarding Gun Laws. In the UK, even our police do not carry guns, thank goodness. There is an armed response squad, ready to be called upon which is brought into action on rare occasions.

 

You do appreciate that this happened in Thailand and not the USA, I presume. An old man with an unlicensed girl on the loose in Pattaya, would really have brought some BIB response. Why you brought up the US element is puzzling.

 

The old man seems to already be in deep trouble. I hate to think just how deep, if a gun had been involved. He might also have considered changing his dog walking route.

 

It will be interesting to see how the case developes

 

Cheers

 

John

 

 

PS I have bred German Shepherd dogs, as a hobby, for years. I have never encountered a single problem. Several BM's on PA have pursued large dog breeding as a hobby also. I myself have judged dog shows, and probably know quite a lot about dog training.

 

Hear, Hear.

 

 

[Falang Sap]

You noodniks do not know anything about the disposition of the dogs or whether the Thai people trained it whatever..

Set aside your prejudices (thai family looking for money etc) and look at the facts...

 

1)The German dude had a rottweiler, probaby one of the strongest and fiercest dogs bred today...

2) The Thai family owned a golden retriever.. probably one of the tamer, lamer breeds.. more likely to hump your leg than bite your dog.. If any of you had ever been around a golden retriever, you would understand

 

I'll bet that the golden retriever ran up to the rottweiler and started smelling it's ass.. and the rottweiler turned around and started fighting it... The german dude brought the knife cause he was a dick...

 

Funny shit a 2 year old Golden Retriever menacing a Rottweiler ... big old clumsy retriever tripping over itself..

Hahaha some of you guys are Sofa King clueless !!!

[sinbad5]

Seems odd that a golden retriever would be the aggressor, especially against a rotty.

 

Going armed indicated pre-meditation and 17 wounds is in "frenzied attack" territory.

 

But we don't really know what happened.

[MaiKowJai80]

Carrying a knife is NEVER acceptable in my opinion. Unless it is a tool-of trade, and one is working.

 

He is elderly. Carrying a walking stick would have been a wiser idea.

 

once that old shit started carrying a knife he became a thug and loses any respect as a pensioner..he's just an old wannabe gangster

 

any decent old fella deserving of respect would have either approached the owners which he didnt(and before all the how do you know brigade pipe up, how do u know this dog was a menace and wasnt being provoked by some old shit with a devil dog) or would have taken a different route

 

i used to have an old gay fella that would intentionally walk right past my gate when i lived there just to set the dog off..he could have walked a few feet away from my gate and the dog wouldnt have made a sound, dogs are territorial and are protecting their pack/owners...in the end i told him if he liked winding my dog up so much then next time he did it i was gonna open my gate...that did the trick

Edited November 14, 2012 by MaiKowJai80

[john2028]

You noodniks do not know anything about the disposition of the dogs or whether the Thai people trained it whatever..

 

 

Hahaha some of you guys are Sofa King clueless !!!

 

I note that your Avatar is a photo of an ass Did you choose it carefully?

 

How very apt!! Or perhaps you are merely a Smart Ass!!

Edited November 14, 2012 by john2028

[nice to visit]

What is the lady in the photo doing holding up the letter? She looks pretty happy about it.

[dudebrah]

Maybe the retriever stole his car ?

[Jai Yen]

He was walking about carrying a knife! Stabbed the poor dog 17 times because it evidently attacked his dog (not him)! This old piece of shit should be deported!

[andyaus]

Something about this story just doen’t seem right.

 

On the one hand we have a Golden retriever in his own front yard

 

 

On the other hand we have the Rottweiler

 

 

And the German with a knife

 

 

Who continually walks past the house with the Golden retriever.

 

Now I wasn’t there but I’m having trouble believing the Germans story.

 

(pictures for illustrations only)

Edited November 14, 2012 by andyaus

[biggles]

"dogs are territorial and are protecting their pack/owners."

 

Yes but was the retriever inside his own property or out on the street. If they cared for the dog that much they should have had it in their own place. Far to many thais let their dogs wander around the area without control.

Having said that the german guys response was over the top but I am sure if he had spoken to the owners, or the police, he would have got nowhere. Mate had a neighbours dog who used be let out every day to shit near his front gate....owner knew and couldnt care less. He hosed it down one day while it was shitting....boy was she upset !! But it was all his fault, of course.

[Skalliwag]

Now,If it was a cat,I think he's about 43 stab wounds short.

[nice to visit]

Something about this story just doen’t seem right.

 

On the one hand we have a Golden retriever in his own front yard

 

 

On the other hand we have the Rottweiler

 

 

And the German with a knife

 

 

Who continually walks past the house with the Golden retriever.

 

Now I wasn’t there but I’m having trouble believing the Germans story.

 

(pictures for illustrations only)

 

Great work andy! You managed to get a german and a short knife in the same picture. That must have taken some serious googling.

[fatjack1]

Hi Fatjack 1

 

We all have our own opinion regarding Gun Laws. In the UK, even our police do not carry guns, thank goodness. There is an armed response squad, ready to be called upon which is brought into action on rare occasions.

 

You do appreciate that this happened in Thailand and not the USA, I presume. An old man with an unlicensed girl on the loose in Pattaya, would really have brought some BIB response. Why you brought up the US element is puzzling.

 

The old man seems to already be in deep trouble. I hate to think just how deep, if a gun had been involved. He might also have considered changing his dog walking route.

 

It will be interesting to see how the case developes

 

Cheers

 

John

 

 

PS I have bred German Shepherd dogs, as a hobby, for years. I have never encountered a single problem. Several BM's on PA have pursued large dog breeding as a hobby also. I myself have judged dog shows, and probably know quite a lot about dog training.

 

Not sure why you focused on the gun aspect. Reread what I said. That part had nothing to do with Thailand and I did not suggest he should have one here. And your irrational fear of guns is hearby noted.

 

On topic, since you used to be a dog trainer then you should be aware of what happens when dogs are NOT properly trained. They can and will become a nuisance. A large untrained dog is more than just a nuisance. it is a threat. And a large un-neutered male untrained dog left to roam will establish a territory and defend it aganist intruders.

 

For those noting the Rottweiler vs Retriever aspect try and comprehend that perhaps the German did not WANT his dog fighting another dog with possible rabies or god knows what. And perhaps it is a small part rottweiler mix. And perhaps it is part retriever mix. Only an idiot thinks the thai media accurately reports this stuff. And only an idiot thinks all goldens are gentle and loving and all rottweilers are killers.

[MaiKowJai80]

"dogs are territorial and are protecting their pack/owners."

 

Yes but was the retriever inside his own property or out on the street. If they cared for the dog that much they should have had it in their own place. Far to many thais let their dogs wander around the area without control.

Having said that the german guys response was over the top but I am sure if he had spoken to the owners, or the police, he would have got nowhere. Mate had a neighbours dog who used be let out every day to shit near his front gate....owner knew and couldnt care less. He hosed it down one day while it was shitting....boy was she upset !! But it was all his fault, of course.

 

 

in my old village theree was a couple of dogs that wandered about, one was a rottie and the other a thai ridgeback...both were owned by thais and the dogs both had a lovely nature and had been brought up around children, the problem dogs in my village were those tiny dogs and they were owned by westerners, occasionally they'd get out..chase people or run out in front of a bike or car as they had no sense from being locked up all the time

 

in scotland its quite common toi see dogs walking about off teh leash and just off on an adventure...ime these dogs are usally very placid

 

if i were to speculate, other than the old german being a nasty, violent cunt that went looking for trouble..he didnt even conceal the weapon as he walked about clutching it in his hand.. i'd say that its more than likely that his dog whilst on a leash has felt threatened by the golden retriever walking around freely and the rottie has reacted to the retriever thinking it was protecting its owner(the german prick) the retriever then has proabbly put its hackles up and squared up to the rottie...after that the german has gone looking for the retriever

 

i hope this catches up with him

Edited November 14, 2012 by MaiKowJai80