200 Dogs Saved from Meat Market.

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Lifted from Thaivisa :-

 

200 dogs saved from meat market

By Digital Media

 

 

NAKHON PHANOM, Nov 8 -- Some 200 dogs were rescued from a smuggling racket, found in a truck, about to cross the Mekong River to the neighbouring country of Laos.

 

A white six-wheel truck with Sakon Nakhon registration plate was found parked near the Mekong River in Nakhon Phanom's Ban Phaeng district.

 

Nakhon Phanom police and provincial Livestock Development Department personnel inspected the truck, finding dogs crammed into 40 cages, seven to 10 dogs per cage.

 

The driver apparently abandoned his vehicle, and fled the scene before the authorities arrived.

 

Local authorities believed the dogs were enroute to neighbouring countries for sale as meat for human consumption as the cold season is arriving.

 

Dog meat is especially in demand in Vietnam during the cold season.

 

The Thai officials vowed to apply strict measures to prevent smuggling of dogs. Those in custody were to be sent to the Nakhon Phanom Animal Quarantine Station. (MCOT online news)

 

-- TNA 2012-11-08

[jojomecanic]

Yes, we love dogs because they bring back the ball when we throw it, but I see no difference with a cow or a pig. They're all mammals.

However, I'm glad they saved those but what are they going to do with them?

[Jai Yen]

When I see and hear things like this I truly do feel very sad. I hope that these ones are re-homed or at least humanely put to sleep. Hopefully the Thai authorities will step up the prevention of dog smuggling for meat.

 

Yes, we love dogs because they bring back the ball when we throw it, but I see no difference with a cow or a pig. They're all mammals.

 

I do hope that you're joking about this and don't forget that humans are mammals too, would you eat one of them!!

[jojomecanic]

I do hope that you're joking about this and don't forget that humans are mammals too, would you eat one of them!!

 

Try to explain me why cows should be eaten when dogs should not. What's the difference appart only the fact that you might love one more than the other.

 

Plenty of horor scene a lot harder than this one about cows, sheeps or pigs breeding. It seems that people sitting in front of a big T-bone steak have no clue what animals have been through to arrive in their plate.

[fostraswift]

Try to explain me why cows should be eaten when dogs should not. What's the difference appart only the fact that you might love one more than the other.

 

Plenty of horor scene a lot harder than this one about cows, sheeps or pigs breeding. It seems that people sitting in front of a big T-bone steak have no clue what animals have been through to arrive in their plate.

 

welll said i agree

[LASportsNut]

Dogs will die for their master and come when called. Cows will not.

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Try to explain me why cows should be eaten when dogs should not. What's the difference appart only the fact that you might love one more than the other.

 

Plenty of horor scene a lot harder than this one about cows, sheeps or pigs breeding. It seems that people sitting in front of a big T-bone steak have no clue what animals have been through to arrive in their plate.

 

I agree, except that as a lifetime pig farmer and dog breeder I would say that pigs provide a better argument on all levels than the cow.

 

For example - the answer given by the ignorant regarding the cow is that they do not have to die to provide milk.

They don't want to know about the necessary waste product - the calf, without which there is no milk and they condemn the only use found for it - veal production - as inhumane.

The French and others do it anyway, but the hypocritical Brits, having banned the transport of them into Europe, paid the farmers the subsidy and then quietly slaughtered and incinerated them.

 

It's been proved many times that consumers insist on the bliss which ignorance allows them.

 

Don't worry, if the Isaan folk are prevented from selling their waste dogs to these traders for 300 Baht they'll get rid of them another way.

Those who protest deserve to have them dropped off in their Soi.

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[Jai Yen]

Try to explain me why cows should be eaten when dogs should not. What's the difference appart only the fact that you might love one more than the other.

 

Plenty of horor scene a lot harder than this one about cows, sheeps or pigs breeding. It seems that people sitting in front of a big T-bone steak have no clue what animals have been through to arrive in their plate.

 

Well at the very least I would have hoped when I'm sitting down for my T-Bone steak that the animal in question would have been kept in sanitary conditions, vaccinations given while alive to prevent me catching anything would have been carried out and the animal in question would have been humanely transported to a licensed abattoir to be humanely killed.

 

Dogs will die for their master and come when called. Cows will not.

 

Well said, also dogs can be used for bomb detecting, sheep herding, guide dogs etc. etc.

 

I agree, except that as a lifetime pig farmer and dog breeder I would say that pigs provide a better argument on all levels than the cow.

 

For example - the answer given by the ignorant regarding the cow is that they do not have to die to provide milk.

They don't want to know about the necessary waste product - the calf, without which there is no milk and they condemn the only use found for it - veal production - as inhumane.

The French and others do it anyway, but the hypocritical Brits, having banned the transport of them into Europe, paid the farmers the subsidy and then quietly slaughtered and incinerated them.

 

It's been proved many times that consumers insist on the bliss which ignorance allows them.

 

Don't worry, if the Isaan folk are prevented from selling their waste dogs to these traders for 300 Baht they'll get rid of them another way.

Those who protest deserve to have them dropped off in their Soi.

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You are obviously far more knowledgeable on agriculture than I am and I do agree with you regards to the pigs statement.

 

I was under the impression that the Thais gave unwanted dogs to the local Wats. I do think that there is a large problem in Thailand with Soi dogs but don't think that eating them is the answer.

[jojomecanic]

to be humanely killed

 

speechless

Edited November 8, 2012 by jojomecanic

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I was under the impression that the Thais gave unwanted dogs to the local Wats. I do think that there is a large problem in Thailand with Soi dogs but don't think that eating them is the answer.

 

I can only speak about what I have experience of.

 

Around this area, certainly a lot of unwanted dogs get abandoned at Wats and eg Buddha Mountain, because those who dump them chose to think they they will get cared for there, which to some extent is true.

 

It may also be because the traders who buy them and take them to Laos don't come down anywhere near this far.

From what I've seen it only goes on within reasonable travelling distance of the border.

Thais don't generally eat dog meat AFAIK, but some don't see a problem with selling them for 2-400 Baht according to weight.

 

You say that eating them isn't the answer to the dog problem in Thailand, where soi dogs in some areas are basically vermin.

For whatever reasons you might imagine, there is little or no evidence of the same problem in Cambodia or Vietnam.

 

Well at the very least I would have hoped when I'm sitting down for my T-Bone steak that the animal in question would have been kept in sanitary conditions, vaccinations given while alive to prevent me catching anything would have been carried out and the animal in question would have been humanely transported to a licensed abattoir to be humanely killed.

 

You might want to hope for the best about drug residues too.

 

I haven't seen a Thai 'factory' farm close up.

Transportation looks OK from what I've seen and the laws on animal suffering are quite strict I'm told.

Nonetheless they are killed somehow.

Even in UK, I suspect that you would not want to know about the realities of animal production, transport and slaughter, even when carried out to the letter of the Welfare Codes.

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[Jai Yen]

speechless

 

Didn't say they were treated humanely, just that I would have hoped they were! Unlike the dogs that I guess will have no humanity shown to them. I'm actually starting to become speechless myself that anybody would condone it.

[Scuzz]

Here's a recent article on the dog trade.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/317809/rescued-from-dog-meat-trade-delivered-into-agony

[Jai Yen]

I can only speak about what I have experience of.

 

Around this area, certainly a lot of unwanted dogs get abandoned at Wats and eg Buddha Mountain, because those who dump them chose to think they they will get cared for there, which to some extent is true.

 

It may also be because the traders who buy them and take them to Laos don't come down anywhere near this far.

From what I've seen it only goes on within reasonable travelling distance of the border.

Thais don't generally eat dog meat AFAIK, but some don't see a problem with selling them for 2-400 Baht according to weight.

 

You say that eating them isn't the answer to the dog problem in Thailand, where soi dogs in some areas are basically vermin.

For whatever reasons you might imagine, there is little or no evidence of the same problem in Cambodia or Vietnam.

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Yes I think you are correct that most if not any Thais don't eat dogs.

 

I'm not sure what Cambodia or Vietnam does to stop the spread of unwanted dogs but the same is true here in Singapore where you will be unlikely to see a stray anywhere. I'm almost 100% certain that they don't eat them! (Lots of stray cats here though). I think a few dog trusts in Thailand do try to offer dog neutering for free but this still costs someone money somewhere and with the large amount it's likely to be a very slow process.

Edited November 8, 2012 by Jai Yen

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I'm not sure what Cambodia or Vietnam does to stop the spread of unwanted dogs ....................

 

I believe the Viets do eat dog, as well as cat, snake, rat etc etc and I've seen it on menus there.

 

I've not seen any sign of Cambodians eating dog meat today, but I suspect they ate a lot of them during the Genocide.

They're certainly not seen in any great numbers on the streets as they are in Thailand.

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[Jai Yen]

 

I've not seen any sign of Cambodians eating dog meat today, but I suspect they ate a lot of them during the Genocide.

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My Gran has told me during WW2 that she ate Hedgehog among other things, so perhaps we could let them off with it during the Genocide.

[sinbad5]

There was a confected outrage in the papers here the other day. Some young fella (I think he judges "Idol" or something or other) posted a travel report about eating guinea pig (cuy) in Peru (which I've done too). They had this whole thing in the paper about how it's outrageous and "guinea pigs are pets not food!"

Edited November 8, 2012 by sinbad5

[redfred]

I have seen the thais eat rat and this has turned my stomach, just the thought of it.

But if i was given a choice it would be chihuahua and chips any day

[BadWingman]

I have little love in my heart for soi dogs. A mate had a big chunk taken out of the back of his calf by one, My GF was recently bitten on the foot and I have had many chase me on the bike which could have resulted in me being bitten or worse running into someone trying to escape from them.

 

I'm not saying trucking them off and eating them is the best option and I don't know what the best option is but I would certainly like to see less of them wandering the sois. Pets are one thing but out of control diseased things are another.

[redfred]

[Mr David]

There was a confected outrage in the papers here the other day. Some young fella (I think he judges "Idol" or something or other) posted a travel report about eating guinea pig (cuy) in Peru (which I've done too). They had this whole thing in the paper about how it's outrageous and "guinea pigs are pets not food!"

 

Earlier this year there was a Brit extreme fishing program with actor Robson Green who went to peru and ate the local delicacy - Guinea pig.

 

Rabbits are pets but also taste good.

[john2028]

Earlier this year there was a Brit extreme fishing program with actor Robson Green who went to peru and ate the local delicacy - Guinea pig.

 

Rabbits are pets but also taste good.

Wild rabbits are not pets.

 

Ask any Aussie

[jojomecanic]

cats and dogs video

 

Yes, focusing on other countries practice, so masses don't know what happens in their own countries, in the name of economy...

 

To this video focusing on chinese, i would post this one that may balance fairly opinions.

 

Edited November 8, 2012 by jojomecanic

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Yes, focusing on other countries practice, so masses don't know what happens in their own countries, in the name of economy...

 

To this video focusing on chinese, i would post this one that may balance fairly opinions.

 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32IDVdgmzKA[/media]

 

Whilst someone has gone to a fair bit of trouble to compile all those clips, most of that can be seen routinely on farms in Europe and USA operating to the highest Welfare Codes....

 

.....except perhaps on the day the Inspector comes round.

 

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[Anokanite]

On one trip to LOS it was in the paper that, the Philippines had just passed a law that dog had to be taken off the menus in restaurants.

 

Probably about 10 years ago.

Edited November 9, 2012 by Anokanite

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On one trip to LOS it was in the paper that, the Philippines had just passed a law that dog had to be taken off the menus in restaurants.

 

Probably about 10 years ago.

 

They probably just renamed it.

 

Even in Scunthorpe, they've been known to discover Alsation dog meat in a restaurant's fridge.

 

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